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Is a PC overkill if I never go beyond PF TEK/BRF?
    #26437454 - 01/16/20 08:20 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

So if I never go beyond pf tek and BRF, is a large pot as effective as a pressure cooker? I might still invest in one down the road. Just wondering. Thx


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Re: Is a PC overkill if I never go beyond PF TEK/BRF? [Re: 920]
    #26437479 - 01/16/20 08:34 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

It is not overkill! It is better sterilization, sure if might not be necessary, but I assure you, you will have less headaches down the line.

Find a used 23quart presto on craigslist, maybe even a 6 quart if you are only doing really small scales.


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Re: Is a PC overkill if I never go beyond PF TEK/BRF? [Re: 920]
    #26437612 - 01/16/20 10:29 PM (4 years, 12 days ago)

Nah, its not overkill.

And u can always use it for agar too. With agar, u could make some Liquid Cultures and inject them into PF cakes instead of spores if u wanted. The main two advantages would be faster colonization times and more efficient usage of spores. :shrug:


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Re: Is a PC overkill if I never go beyond PF TEK/BRF? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26437628 - 01/16/20 10:40 PM (4 years, 12 days ago)

^Sorry to hijack a bit, but I just did some cakes and agar for a new start, anustart.

I normally only did LI, just plop the agar in sterilized water, shake the crap out of it. Is that water enough? Is grain water LC the way to go nowadays? Should I just make extra soft agar so that it would dissolve better when shaking?

I used to do straight pours, but I'm down to try syringes, the issue is mycelia being too thick for the gauge in theory


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Re: Is a PC overkill if I never go beyond PF TEK/BRF? [Re: Huskies]
    #26437630 - 01/16/20 10:43 PM (4 years, 12 days ago)

Not sure what the go-to is for LCs. Back in the day, sugar water was use, such as brown sugar mixed with water.

Ive heard that water with colonized agar in it works well too. Havent tried it thou.


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Re: Is a PC overkill if I never go beyond PF TEK/BRF? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26437633 - 01/16/20 10:45 PM (4 years, 12 days ago)

It definitely works, I just thing with the pouring from the sterile jar it ended up adding too much water, creating bacteria, but that was on me. Maybe caution before overhauled methods.


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Re: Is a PC overkill if I never go beyond PF TEK/BRF? [Re: 920] * 1
    #26437679 - 01/16/20 11:21 PM (4 years, 12 days ago)

You can also cook food with them, so even if you stop growing...


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Re: Is a PC overkill if I never go beyond PF TEK/BRF? [Re: Huskies]
    #26437692 - 01/16/20 11:44 PM (4 years, 12 days ago)

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It is not overkill! It is better sterilization, sure if might not be necessary, but I assure you, you will have less headaches down the line.

Find a used 23quart presto on craigslist, maybe even a 6 quart if you are only doing really small scales.



Keep an eye on amazon, too. The presto 23 quart goes for $60, but I got mine for $40 because it had "major cosmetic damage". That cosmetic damage turned out to be a smooshed corner of box - the PC itself is brand new!


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Re: Is a PC overkill if I never go beyond PF TEK/BRF? [Re: 920]
    #26437695 - 01/16/20 11:49 PM (4 years, 12 days ago)

My stockpot is a life saver but the PC makes my life even simpler.

Why not is my question?

Saves time, an introduction if you want to get into full on canning stuff, make tender AF short ribs, a no-bs faster way to sterilize your subs... the list and benefits go on and on.

:mindblown:


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Re: Is a PC overkill if I never go beyond PF TEK/BRF? [Re: HolyBolete]
    #26437767 - 01/17/20 02:15 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

Everything they said.. you’ll be glad you got one.  If time is money, then the amount of time you save makes them pay for themselves.  If you can afford one, do it. 

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Re: Is a PC overkill if I never go beyond PF TEK/BRF? [Re: fahtster]
    #26437896 - 01/17/20 06:24 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

Definitely not overkill. It was the first thing I purchased, mainly because I felt it was easier than using a pot for sterilization. I'm happy I did because I've always felt confident that they were sterilized when pulling them out whereas if I used just a pot I would have wondered if I did it right.

I think Pressure cooker and dehydrator are a must if you plan on pursuing this hobby, even if it doesn't evolve past BRF jars. I honestly think this hobby is cheap compared to most other hobbies. The initial investment can be a little steep if you don't try to do it on the "cheap" (and I suggest investing if you can, it is worth it). However, after the initial investment, this hobby is incredibly cheap compared to most others (and you get something incredible out of it :cool:)


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Re: Is a PC overkill if I never go beyond PF TEK/BRF? [Re: fahtster]
    #26437899 - 01/17/20 06:26 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

Even if you dont go into grain, which I really recommend, its cheaper and easier than brf. You could used it to sterilize the cakes, sterilize bulk to shred the cakes to, cook, do agar so you can clone and not worry about bunk syringes. Not to mention actually cooking in it.

I see 8 at cookers all the time at goodwill, thrift stores and flea markets. My little 8qt cost 10 bucks at goodwill and fits 6 half pints. Even an instant pot would work and they are amazing for cooking. I have a 16qt presto that I got for 20 bucks at a thrift store, but still use the smaller 8qt all the time. I do no pour plates and tools in it often it only goes to 11.6 psi bit it works great


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Re: Is a PC overkill if I never go beyond PF TEK/BRF? [Re: Drboomer]
    #26437951 - 01/17/20 07:26 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

I bought a little instant pot cuz I wasn’t sure when I started like you.

Best thing ever. More for the food even than cooking quarts of seed.

Just throw a bunch of stuff in and hit a button and half an hour later it’s somehow all perfectly cooked.


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Re: Is a PC overkill if I never go beyond PF TEK/BRF? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26438011 - 01/17/20 08:14 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

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I bought a little instant pot cuz I wasn’t sure when I started like you.



Wait what? We have an instant pot. A 3 quart Duo Mini. Probably too small. I want to do 6 half pint jars next.


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Re: Is a PC overkill if I never go beyond PF TEK/BRF? [Re: 920] * 1
    #26438018 - 01/17/20 08:16 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

Prolly need an 8qt instant pot


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Re: Is a PC overkill if I never go beyond PF TEK/BRF? [Re: Drboomer] * 1
    #26438149 - 01/17/20 09:26 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

Not sure what size mine is but it juuust fits one quart jar. I think could prob get 6-7 half pints in it but haven’t tried.


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