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Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip'
    #26436986 - 01/16/20 03:15 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

Something I have a hard time with is managing my cannabis usage. I can't seem to decide whether or not it is a net positive or negative when I use it habitually. I get experienced enough and a big enough tolerance that I can still function, stay healthy, talk to people, work, etc., but I simultaneously know that if I wasn't baked all the time I would be much higher functioning. But then it's hard to tell if the higher functioning is worth getting rid of the calming, relaxing effects of using weed. So I go back and forth on what's important in life.

An idea I have is trying to maintain a very low tolerance, then using strong herb or concentrate to get a very high dose of THC, then just enjoying that for a night or afternoon where I don't have much going on. At the same time, maybe the effects of a mega dose aren't nearly as fun when you have no tolerance.

At any rate, I've never met anybody in real life who carefully manages cannabis usage like that. They all either will only smoke begrudgingly or if pressured, in the case of people who have little to no tolerance, or they will already be smoking enough to not get super messed up off of it.

What's your history with managing personal use of weed? And if you've ever taken a long tolerance break and then done, say, a ton of quality dabs or a few quality joints or some strong edibles (what I would usually do to get where I want after smoking daily for weeks), what happened?

Obviously I'll have to wait and see for myself, but I really enjoy hearing stories about high THC doses without tolerance. Some very psychedelic stuff tends to be reported, especially by nonsmokers. Perhaps smoking all of the time gives you a lesser appreciation for the plant.


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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: jdawg333]
    #26437001 - 01/16/20 03:22 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

I noticed myself getting hooked and so I haven't smoked in around a week. Gonna moderate my smoking going forward. Cravings go away after a few days, I'm still a young adult so I'm not tryna fuck up my memory by smoking all the time. If you're already >25 there's less risk to being baked whenever you want, and simply cutting it off when you need to function at a higher level. But some research shows that for chronic smokers, it takes up to 30 days to restore short term memory to that of someone who never smoked. If you wanna smoke everyday just do it once a day instead of all day, or else you will get super hooked and feel very shitty when you need to stop.

Pyschs have brought my brain to a level closer to tripping at all times. I get afterimages from all sources of light when I close my eyes and I get visual snow in the dark. I imagine images much more vividly and "random" (I can almost always figure out why that image appeared if I think about it) images appear in my head when I close my eyes and think, especially as I'm going in and out of sleep. So weed does tend to bring me to a pyschedelic state just by inebriating me a bit more.


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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: jdawg333]
    #26437010 - 01/16/20 03:26 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

I made that mistake after almost a year-long break. Took 3 huge bong rips. 2 min later I stood up off my chair and went blind for a solid 3-4 min. Not blurry vision but total darkness. Once that passed it was awesome for like an hour. Than I felt so burnt out that I didn’t undress for bed, just fell asleep on the couch without moving a muscle.

In hindsight, if I knew what was coming, it could have been hella enjoyable. But the vision loss freaked me the fuck out and the accompanying paranoia persisted until the next day.


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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: feldman114]
    #26437025 - 01/16/20 03:35 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

Frickin’ Old stool, brother 👍🏻

Been there. Been a stoner for 20 years. Only had a few enforced breaks, like working abroad for a few months and stuff like that. But apart from that rarely don’t smoke. So when I have returned from a long break, wow it’s like the good ol’ Days!

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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26437026 - 01/16/20 03:35 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

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I made that mistake after almost a year-long break. Took 3 huge bong rips. 2 min later I stood up off my chair and went blind for a solid 3-4 min. Not blurry vision but total darkness



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But some research shows that for chronic smokers, it takes up to 30 days to restore short term memory to that of someone who never smoked.



That's a little scary, but completely understandable. Every time I take a break from smoking after heavy binging, it feels as though I'm waking up from a coma. Feel like a different person, poor memory of the times I had been high, and scariest part is I start to notice just how bad my short term memory is in the week or so after cutting it out. When I'm high, I think I just don't even notice how terrible my memory is which makes me really wonder what goes on in my brain half the time I'm stoned.
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Pyschs have brought by brain to a level closer to tripping at all times (I get afterimages from all sources of light when I close my eyes & visual snow in the dark, and I imagine images much more vividly)



I can never tell if I get minor 'visuals' from time to time or if those types of artifacts are just always present, you just don't notice it unless you know where to look. Sometimes if I look closely at the area around a bright light I will see the field of light 'crawl' a little as though I were tripping, but I have a feeling light just messes with our eyes and brain sometimes.


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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: jdawg333]
    #26437034 - 01/16/20 03:41 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

I'm pretty sure 90%+ of pysch users (at least acid users) have some level of HPPD and are in denial or don't notice it because the effects are so small. The only people who get diagnosed are people with symptoms that are apparent when you're not looking for them and that interfere with normal activities.

Unpopular opinion here though :laugh:


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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: jdawg333]
    #26437042 - 01/16/20 03:45 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

Personally, I can't maintain moderate usage. Once you get about 10 days out, 30 days is no problem. But I can attest that my short term memory definitely takes at least 3 weeks to totally return.

As far as zero tolerance smoking, for me I only need like 2 or 3 low strength sessions before I can go back to smoking like normal. Granted I'm totally wasted out of my mind for at least a week, and definitely not ok to drive or go to work. But I personally didn't have any paranoia issues or anything when I went back to smoking after a year break. Honestly, overall I find my emotions more predictable when I don't smoke at all. I don't feel the need to smoke to stay calm and chilled.

But that's just me. Weed is definitely different for everyone


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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: jdawg333]
    #26437047 - 01/16/20 03:47 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

Also meant to mention, when I have had an enforced break, the first two to three weeks are filled with real dark depression, and an inability to eat a full meal! Oh and getting to sleep sucks.


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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26437048 - 01/16/20 03:48 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

It's just hard for me to think of it as HPPD because I remember playing tricks on my eyes using light sources and massive views and staring at objects as a kid. Stuff like staring at something, focusing only with your mind on something else in the corner of your eye, and using focus to make the other thing disappear. Halos and rings from the light hitting your eyelashes right. The stuff I get now that I would call HPPD is more or less on the same level as that, if not less interesting.

I do think a heavy enough trip will change a person significantly enough that even if there are now artifacts of the trip in everyday thinking or seeing or hearing, they won't notice because of how far in the past the time before tripping feels once you've done a really good dose. So I guess HPPD is something that will always be contested.


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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: jdawg333] * 1
    #26437065 - 01/16/20 03:59 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

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An idea I have is trying to maintain a very low tolerance, then using strong herb or concentrate to get a very high dose of THC, then just enjoying that for a night or afternoon where I don't have much going on. At the same time, maybe the effects of a mega dose aren't nearly as fun when you have no tolerance.





Personally...I don't enjoy "mega" doses of cannabis/THC. Sometimes I am looking to get as stoned as possible like that, but generally speaking large doses of cannabis are not all that enjoyable for me (and most folks). Mega doses of cannabis can get quite intense and very "serious" for some people lol, or one just falls asleep  lol....

But I've heard some folks do work with cannabis like that, basically using cannabis as a psychedelic and specifically for getting really far "out there"...They don't smoke often, but when they do they usually smoke and/or eat large amounts of hash and it is basically a full on trip for them.





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What's your history with managing personal use of weed? And if you've ever taken a long tolerance break and then done, say, a ton of quality dabs or a few quality joints or some strong edibles....

Perhaps smoking all of the time gives you a lesser appreciation for the plant.





I've kept my intake pretty consistent and in moderation for over a decade now. I've smoked the same amounts around the same time each day for years now.

I've been smoking daily for about 10 years now. For around 6 to 7 years I was only smoking about 0.1g to 0.25g a day, I was smoking daily but not large amounts.

Over the past 2 years or so I'm smoking a bit more....about 1g a day. I smoke daily but not all day, and usually not until the afternoon/evening around dinner & bed time.



I've never taken a break specifically for tolerance...I actually enjoy having some tolerance. With out tolerance I become super high and become couch locked and annihilated, with the tolerance I have I can smoke and still remain "functional".

Day to day I'm not using the herb to get as stoned as I possibly can, I take a few tokes in the afternoon/evening and before bed and that's it...I have no need or desire to take a tolerance break.

Working with cannabis isn't all about getting stoned/high for me. At times it certainly is (parties/celebrations, gatherings with friends, when I'm sick or have a migraine, etc etc), but my day to day use of the herb isn't like that.

I don't think smoking regularly gives one "less appreciation" for the plant...but considering tolerance builds so rapidly with cannabis, I would say folks that smoke regularly and have tolerance certainly miss out on the "full potential" the plant has in regards to how psychedelic and dissociative it can actually be....With little or no tolerance, cannabis can be quite powerful for sure :yesnod: .



Just depends on why you work with the plant and what you're looking for :shrug: .

Myself...There's only a few occasions through out a year where I am trying to get really stoned out of my gourd. Day to day I just like a trickle of cannabinoids going through my system, I like to smoke and enjoy my herb with out becoming totally stoned. So I prefer to have tolerance.





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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26437081 - 01/16/20 04:07 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

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Also meant to mention, when I have had an enforced break, the first two to three weeks are filled with real dark depression, and an inability to eat a full meal! Oh and getting to sleep sucks.



Yeah, sounds like you need to just make a choice. Quit or keep on doing what you are doing. This is pretty common, but every time you fall off the wagon you have to start over.


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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: openmind]
    #26437105 - 01/16/20 04:18 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

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Myself...There's only a few occasions through out a year where I am trying to get really stoned out of my gourd. Day to day I just like a trickle of cannabinoids going through my system, I like to smoke and enjoy my herb with out becoming totally stoned. So I prefer to have tolerance.



A trickle of cannabinoids sounds pretty good right now... :pipesmoke:

I do think that my heavy usage may be a case of 'chasing the dragon'. Trying to get to the point where I experience the alleged psychedelic effects of the drug out of boredom, while simultaneously having built up such a tolerance that the experience I'm after is impossible. Can't get the past back, though. This is probably the case with any drug when somebody has this kind of mindset, even psychedelics.

I think one of the reasons many smokers are unable to manage their usage of cannabis is because they're trying to do what you said, openmind. Just get a trickle going. However, my theory is that in illegal states the quality of weed is so variable that people end up just getting confused about what that trickle is. I would too, if you could smoke an eighth one night and not get nearly as high as a bowl of dank the next. Or they get a really good bag, then end up going through several shitty bags only because they want that same high. I think people end up confused. All the more reason for legalization.


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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26437112 - 01/16/20 04:25 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

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I noticed myself getting hooked and so I haven't smoked in around a week. Gonna moderate my smoking going forward. Cravings go away after a few days, I'm still a young adult so I'm not tryna fuck up my memory by smoking all the time. If you're already >25 there's less risk to being baked whenever you want, and simply cutting it off when you need to function at a higher level. But some research shows that for chronic smokers, it takes up to 30 days to restore short term memory to that of someone who never smoked. If you wanna smoke everyday just do it once a day instead of all day, or else you will get super hooked and feel very shitty when you need to stop.

Pyschs have brought my brain to a level closer to tripping at all times. I get afterimages from all sources of light when I close my eyes and I get visual snow in the dark. I imagine images much more vividly and "random" (I can almost always figure out why that image appeared if I think about it) images appear in my head when I close my eyes and think, especially as I'm going in and out of sleep. So weed does tend to bring me to a pyschedelic state just by inebriating me a bit more.




Why do you think those are HPPD symptoms though? I've felt that way before too, but when I really think about it I've always had similar phenomena to the ones you described. It's hard to know whether or not you're just projecting your anxieties about overuse onto your experiences... It could also be caused by current drug use, you don't really know if it's HPPD unless you've been sober for at least a few months. And even then, you don't know it's HPPD until you've ruled out any other possible neurological/psychological causes.


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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: feldman114]
    #26437131 - 01/16/20 04:43 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

Oral DMT. Been smoking Cannabis daily for 10 years, can't do it anymore unless i wanna have a Psychedelic experience because that's all Cannabis does for me now. Idk what about oral DMT or the MAO-A inhibition seems to reduce tolerance and bring out Cannabis' Psychedelics properties, but it does, imo/ime.


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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: dk-1]
    #26437135 - 01/16/20 04:45 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

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I noticed myself getting hooked and so I haven't smoked in around a week. Gonna moderate my smoking going forward. Cravings go away after a few days, I'm still a young adult so I'm not tryna fuck up my memory by smoking all the time. If you're already >25 there's less risk to being baked whenever you want, and simply cutting it off when you need to function at a higher level. But some research shows that for chronic smokers, it takes up to 30 days to restore short term memory to that of someone who never smoked. If you wanna smoke everyday just do it once a day instead of all day, or else you will get super hooked and feel very shitty when you need to stop.

Pyschs have brought my brain to a level closer to tripping at all times. I get afterimages from all sources of light when I close my eyes and I get visual snow in the dark. I imagine images much more vividly and "random" (I can almost always figure out why that image appeared if I think about it) images appear in my head when I close my eyes and think, especially as I'm going in and out of sleep. So weed does tend to bring me to a pyschedelic state just by inebriating me a bit more.




Why do you think those are HPPD symptoms though? I've felt that way before too, but when I really think about it I've always had similar phenomena to the ones you described. It's hard to know whether or not you're just projecting your anxieties about overuse onto your experiences... It could also be caused by current drug use, you don't really know if it's HPPD unless you've been sober for at least a few months. And even then, you don't know it's HPPD until you've ruled out any other possible neurological/psychological causes.



Idk. I don't think it's my anxieties, as I think I've come to terms with it. Although I was definitely more anxious when it started.
It could definitely be weed, the longest break I took was a little over two weeks and the symptoms did go down slowly, but as soon as I started smoking semi-regularly again they came back. Honestly, even if it's only triggered by cannabis usage, cannabis never caused it before so I'd still consider it HPPD. But I have my doubts that I would fully return to normal even without smoking at all. Not that it really matters at the end of the day...

Something that convinces me that something changed in my brain are my mathematical abilities. I've always been good at math except for geometry; I just couldn't imagine shapes in my head and manipulate them, and my spatial memory is quite poor. In my math classes now though, I find it possible for me to manipulate complex 3d shapes in my head. Could be practice, could be aging, idk... but the preponderance of evidence points towards psychedelics at least having some effect on my brain.


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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26437153 - 01/16/20 04:59 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

Either all in or none at all for me. It's an addiction and I go through some pretty heavy withdrawal every time I quit.

I am taking probably a 5 year break now, it just makes me feel weak all the time, and my sleep and appetite turns into shit over time. I've taken long year plus breaks before but this time is either 5 years or for good. I just simply do not need cannabis in my life. It gives me NO BENEFIT what so ever, actually only gives me negatives, it is a drug addiction to me. My girlfriend has been addicted to 7 years and she simply cannot quit without serious help, so she's going to narcotics anonymous

It's not "just weed" anymore.. we are breeding high potency, especially when extracted into concentrates it's just drug abuse at that point.

A lot of users are in serious denial of their addiction just like ANY drug you can habitually use


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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #26437199 - 01/16/20 05:29 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

Also wanna mention that usually i just take like 3 to 6 puffs, depending on quality, i usually smoke regular to mid grade bud, rarely have high grade. But 3 puffs is usually my cut off because if i go over that i get "too far out there" and it's super powerful, even with regular bud. I started smoking in 2010, smoked multiple bowls throughout the day everyday, then started realizing after a few years how powerful it had gotten for me so i backed down to a few bowls a day, then after some more time only smoked a few puffs at a time, but would still take 3 puffs here and there throughout the day, then got to smoking 3 puffs like 3 times a day, then once or twice a day, never seemed to build tolerance for it, if anything it started getting stronger the more i used it, but again, i attribute that to my oral DMT consumption. And recently, i took a low low dose of oral DMT using like 1.8 grams of Mimosa root powder in capsules with 300mgs of Moclobemide, and then a few days later got sick with the flu, and ever since anytime i've smoked Cannabis it's been very Psychedelic with definite DMT vibes, i just shouldn't smoke it anymore apparently unless i want to have a Psychedelic experience, thing is, Cannabis now freaks me out more than oral DMT does and that's saying something lol.


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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: DJ Ed] * 1
    #26437647 - 01/16/20 10:55 PM (4 years, 12 days ago)

I didn’t read everything but I say smoke the fuck out of weed if u can handle it. Weed has only brought me blessings and I will probably never stop smoking. I probably smoke about 5-7 grams a day and have no problem functioning. I have no plans of stopping but everyone is different and Iv seen weed cause problems in some and bring greatness to others.


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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: jdawg333]
    #26437675 - 01/16/20 11:18 PM (4 years, 12 days ago)

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What's your history with managing personal use of weed? And if you've ever taken a long tolerance break and then done, say, a ton of quality dabs or a few quality joints or some strong edibles (what I would usually do to get where I want after smoking daily for weeks), what happened?

Obviously I'll have to wait and see for myself, but I really enjoy hearing stories about high THC doses without tolerance. Some very psychedelic stuff tends to be reported, especially by nonsmokers. Perhaps smoking all of the time gives you a lesser appreciation for the plant.




Naturally I have a very low tolerance to weed in general.

Smoked all throughout HSchool.. took a break for many years throughout college and work thereafter. Have recently started up again as a weekend or night-time smoker.

What helps me stay off of.. is that every now and then I will intentionally take a high dose edibles
to induce high anxiety which will trickle down
into not wanting to touch the stuff.

Sometimes letting yourself get into a hallucinatory paranoia inducing trip is enough to cut the cravings even for the little toke here and there.

After the said "self induced trip" I start to loath the idea of being too anxious or even the slightest feeling of being high and revert to a completely sober state again for weeks to months.

It also helps to replace one addiction w another as they say.

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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: jdawg333]
    #26437684 - 01/16/20 11:29 PM (4 years, 12 days ago)

I can't manage my personal use of weed at all. If I have it, I smoke it until it's gone. Sometimes I'll use it even when I know I shouldn't or when I know I have other things to do, or when I just straight up don't want to. The only way I can get off of it is if I completely throw away everything I have (or wait until I run out).

Like some of the other posters, I don't enjoy high dose weed. In fact, the worst part about starting weed again after stopping for a while is the fact that my tolerance is zero. I prefer weed when my tolerance is so high that all I get relaxation and happiness and fun, and very minimal "psychedelic" effects. It's always really shitty whenever I start back up having to rebuild my tolerance. So I wouldn't personally enjoy taking tolerance breaks.

Sometimes I experiment with making the weed unusually difficult to consume. Keeping it in somewhere inconvenient where I have to put in some work to use. My goal with that is to use less, but I'm not sure if it actually works or not.


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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: SFS96]
    #26438117 - 01/17/20 09:14 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

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I didn’t read everything but I say smoke the fuck out of weed if u can handle it. Weed has only brought me blessings and I will probably never stop smoking. I probably smoke about 5-7 grams a day and have no problem functioning. I have no plans of stopping but everyone is different and Iv seen weed cause problems in some and bring greatness to others.




I rarely smoked weed until hash got that poor 20 years ago I learnt to grow. That first mini joint I had from my own crop changed my world. Could not believe it could be so powerful. Been hooked since. My daughter’s a teenager now though so I’ve had to stop growing - costing me a fortune; the £20 bags are about 1.5g. In my day they were 3 to 4g! Robbin gets, needs to be legal!

You’ve pretty much described me above! If they ever introduced drug testing at work though, I’d be fooked! Would take months to be clear!

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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26438145 - 01/17/20 09:23 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

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I didn’t read everything but I say smoke the fuck out of weed if u can handle it. Weed has only brought me blessings and I will probably never stop smoking. I probably smoke about 5-7 grams a day and have no problem functioning. I have no plans of stopping but everyone is different and Iv seen weed cause problems in some and bring greatness to others.




I rarely smoked weed until hash got that poor 20 years ago I learnt to grow. That first mini joint I had from my own crop changed my world. Could not believe it could be so powerful. Been hooked since. My daughter’s a teenager now though so I’ve had to stop growing - costing me a fortune; the £20 bags are about 1.5g. In my day they were 3 to 4g! Robbin gets, needs to be legal!

You’ve pretty much described me above! If they ever introduced drug testing at work though, I’d be fooked! Would take months to be clear!

Mush love,
DJ Ed




G’daam, 5-7g every day?? Talk about heavy hitters lol

I smoke every day, but it only takes like 0.2g to get me stoned.
$1.50 gravity bong FTW.


I grew for a while too, but having a grow tent at home did not jive well with my paranoia. Tossed everything after the scare of my life. Cops knocked on my door while I was flushing some nute-burnt plants. I started freaking out loosing my shit cause they were REALLY pounding on the door...turns out it was the apartment across the hall from me - dude was beating his wife and she called them.


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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: feldman114]
    #26438206 - 01/17/20 09:47 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

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I remember when I use to smoke through grams of 80% plus THC concentrate on a daily basis for about 2 years. True addict


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    #26438245 - 01/17/20 10:08 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

Yeah probably about 5g a week these days. My scariest moment was 17 years  ago visiting family; had a wick setup to keep my plants hydrated while I was away. Got back and we’d been burgled. Took all the Christmas presents, and all my plants. They missed my stash though. Anyway after a 10 hour commute I spent the next hour cleansing the house before I could ring the police! It’s one of the two ways careful growers can get caught: telling anybody else you grow, and getting burgled / having to call the police for something. They’re not the most understanding of people, either, the police.....

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    #26438315 - 01/17/20 10:47 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

4 or 5 days break is good, twice or thrice per month and you will see you are not an addict. you will remember more, trip better on smaller amounts, be less lazy, and be more mentally and physically coordinated.

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    #26438334 - 01/17/20 10:59 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

What have you noticed about short term memory and marijuana usage, redgreenvines? Earlier in the thread, I saw that it can take 30 days to get oneself on the same level as a nonsmoker, but that's of course just a study.

My first assumption with my tolerance break was roughly a week off should allow the 'magic' to return and it to be more of an occasion.

I think there's a very specific point that tips the scale and causes people to go full in on smoking, a sort of revelation or epiphany that comes a few days into smoking. I think it comes from being 'in between worlds' so to speak, being familiar with being stoned and sober, and you realize that despite the consequences being stoned is loads better. Then I think a few missteps and you'll be a little too high all the time and have too much of a tolerance to understand how bad the problem is. Then being sober starts to sound better and you quit. Then being sober gets boring and the cycle repeats.


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    #26438358 - 01/17/20 11:16 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

I did a week last October! The intention though was the full month. Been on a cannabis binge, I suppose, since then! I rarely feel stoned, and the highs are sort of how I like to feel; chilled, relaxed,spacing out watching a bit of Netflix after work! Rarely if ever get the giggles or the paranoia, but I must admit, when I am around people I can sometimes feel really stoned!

My goal is to stop cannabis all together, except for when used in combination with mushrooms....

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    #26438374 - 01/17/20 11:23 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

I’m glad someone said it. Cant even imagine taking mushies with no weed on hand. It’s my anchor, and those seas can get stormy real fast.


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    #26438395 - 01/17/20 11:37 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

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I’m glad someone said it. Cant even imagine taking mushies with no weed on hand. It’s my anchor, and those seas can get stormy real fast.



I would call the trip off, if I couldn’t get hold of any grass. Almost came to that before Christmas; but scraped out all my tubs, and used some of the powder in the bottom layer of the grinder, so managed to roll the customary 4 joints. What I wasn’t expecting though was that they were strong as fuck, and really caught me out. Happens once maybe twice a year lol, but on mushrooms well a different level of being caught out! Up until this trip I smoked my first joint when I felt the mushrooms kicking in (a la Terence McKenna). Well this time, I could not smoke to the end. Had to go to the back door for cold fresh air. Almost felt like a whitey. Then the come up / trip stopped for the next 2 hours??? Really really weird come up sensations! I was really careful with the joints for the rest of the night after that, but even a few puffs accelerated me to light speed! Anyway, when I felt like I started tripping again, after two hours waiting, the rest of the trip, which incidentally was really weirdly strong, felt like it was happening 10 minutes in the past. I cannot better explain the sensation of being behind the trip.

My subsequent trips,  I no longer smoke on the come up; I wait until I am firmly in the peak.

Anyway, thought I’d share that! Happy ending: when I started to come down from that trip, got some Pink Floyd on and more joints from the powder,, and well, the after glow was super super chilled.

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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26438414 - 01/17/20 11:47 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

I only sometimes want it while tripping, but after the psychedelic is over it's the only way to get back to normal! I always feel so wired and 'melty' for a while if I don't smoke a little bit of bud then fall asleep.


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    #26438421 - 01/17/20 11:50 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

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I didn’t read everything but I say smoke the fuck out of weed if u can handle it. Weed has only brought me blessings and I will probably never stop smoking. I probably smoke about 5-7 grams a day and have no problem functioning. I have no plans of stopping but everyone is different and Iv seen weed cause problems in some and bring greatness to others.



Extreme weed use permanently lowers short term memory over time


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    #26438443 - 01/17/20 12:01 PM (4 years, 12 days ago)

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I didn’t read everything but I say smoke the fuck out of weed if u can handle it. Weed has only brought me blessings and I will probably never stop smoking. I probably smoke about 5-7 grams a day and have no problem functioning. I have no plans of stopping but everyone is different and Iv seen weed cause problems in some and bring greatness to others.



Extreme weed use permanently lowers short term memory over time




Is there any proof for this? In adults?


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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26438555 - 01/17/20 01:00 PM (4 years, 12 days ago)

“ The first group consists of 10 people who don't smoke pot or only do so occasionally. Let's say on average, people in this group would be able to remember nine out of the 15 words.
The second group consists of people who smoked pot every single day over a period of five years. On average, they'd be able to recall 8.5 out of the 15 words.”

Groundbreaking.:rofl2:

It’s not that I don’t believe it, I was just under the impression that the only solid proof of permanent damage from weed was found in people under 25.


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    #26438557 - 01/17/20 01:01 PM (4 years, 12 days ago)

I mean, weed has changed a lot over time. It might take a minute for the people using strong as hell bud or concentrate to age and partake in a bunch of studies to determine exactly what absurd THC consumption does to the brain.

I frequently hear about people that are 'fried' from smoking too much, that is very poor memory, kind of zombie like, little emotion. Only really heard that though, don't have any first hand encounters or experience. Sometimes I think a certain type of people are attracted to smoking weed all of the time and that could just have a worse eduction, probably started as kids, and just prioritize different kinds of knowledge, most likely.

That study doesn't really seem all that freaky. Every day for five years! That's a lot of cannabis and, I would think, little self control. And performed just about as well on that memory test, too? Not very worrying for occasional smokers. I do wonder, however, what the long term effects of concentrate and high potency marijuana will be. I would think that to smoke every day for over a year you'd have to have some pretty dank stuff, however :rasta:


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    #26438660 - 01/17/20 02:02 PM (4 years, 12 days ago)

20 straight years of weed = -2.5/15 words.

Yes, it's not a big difference. And yes, you need an extreme amount of weed to damage your brain. But claiming weed has absolutely no negative effects is almost as naive claiming it completely fucks you up.

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    #26438665 - 01/17/20 02:06 PM (4 years, 12 days ago)

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I was just under the impression that the only solid proof of permanent damage from weed was found in people under 25.



Well the veracity of your impression depends on what you consider "solid proof." We don't know for sure it even has effects on children (correlation ≠ causation no matter how many factors you control for)
but the preponderance of evidence does seem to indicate that weed can be damaging with extreme long-term use.

Kinda like nicotine... (the main difference being weed's effects are "less bad" and weed is FAR less addictive)


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Re: Maintaining a low weed tolerance to 'trip' [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26438682 - 01/17/20 02:22 PM (4 years, 12 days ago)

Smoking something every day for 5 years makes you remember 0.5 words less than the guy who doesn’t smoke.
So idk how that can be called harmful. Compared to what? Air?

I wouldn’t be surprised if it was waaay worse. I never said weed is harmless, though you seem to have assumed I think so.
But such marginal decline in short term memory might not mean anything, considering how many variables are involved in a 5-year time period. Plus, the only controls were people who don’t smoke - no placebo group that smoked hemp or w.e.


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    #26439481 - 01/18/20 01:32 AM (4 years, 11 days ago)

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I didn’t read everything but I say smoke the fuck out of weed if u can handle it. Weed has only brought me blessings and I will probably never stop smoking. I probably smoke about 5-7 grams a day and have no problem functioning. I have no plans of stopping but everyone is different and Iv seen weed cause problems in some and bring greatness to others.



Extreme weed use permanently lowers short term memory over time




Well I guess I’m fucked lol I believe everyone is different but I know many life long pot heads who don’t have any issues from years of heavy use. I find it to be a very spiritual herb and I believe it can bring healing to many people when respected and used with good intentions.

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I didn’t read everything but I say smoke the fuck out of weed if u can handle it. Weed has only brought me blessings and I will probably never stop smoking. I probably smoke about 5-7 grams a day and have no problem functioning. I have no plans of stopping but everyone is different and Iv seen weed cause problems in some and bring greatness to others.




I rarely smoked weed until hash got that poor 20 years ago I learnt to grow. That first mini joint I had from my own crop changed my world. Could not believe it could be so powerful. Been hooked since. My daughter’s a teenager now though so I’ve had to stop growing - costing me a fortune; the £20 bags are about 1.5g. In my day they were 3 to 4g! Robbin gets, needs to be legal!

You’ve pretty much described me above! If they ever introduced drug testing at work though, I’d be fooked! Would take months to be clear!

Mush love,
DJ Ed




G’daam, 5-7g every day?? Talk about heavy hitters lol

I smoke every day, but it only takes like 0.2g to get me stoned.
$1.50 gravity bong FTW.


I grew for a while too, but having a grow tent at home did not jive well with my paranoia. Tossed everything after the scare of my life. Cops knocked on my door while I was flushing some nute-burnt plants. I started freaking out loosing my shit cause they were REALLY pounding on the door...turns out it was the apartment across the hall from me - dude was beating his wife and she called them.




Yeah i love my weed :jah: 5-7g is just kinda a rough estimate, I probably smoke 5-10 decent sized joints a day sometimes and my wife smokes some with me but she smokes mostly dabs and I’m all about the green. I always have a few pounds around the house so it’s not hard to blaze down.


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    #26440124 - 01/18/20 12:01 PM (4 years, 11 days ago)

For those concerned about the effects of THC/Cannabis on short term memory, try giving something Cholinergic a try, like Alpha-Pinene for example (a terpene naturally found in Cannabis and various other plants). I've taken Lemon EO for a few years, also pure Limonene, and pure Alpha-Pinene, and they definitely clean up how Cannabis feels, can cut back on the paranoia and anxiety and memory deficits, Alpha-Pinene for memory, Limonene for anxiety/paranoia, much more clearheaded and functional. But for me, Cannabis these days causes me to have Psychedelic experiences so i don't feel like partaking as much, but as far as memory and paranoia and such goes, definitely look into the the terpenes. I take my terps orally, but i'd imagine one can also vape them, perhaps.


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    #26440644 - 01/18/20 06:32 PM (4 years, 11 days ago)

If you know the secrets of Cannabis then you will not require any other substance to achieve a level 5 Trip. This is how you can trip every day:

1) Purification: you must eat pure, raw food, and ensure your metabolism is good enough to eliminate toxins regularly.


2) Edibles: Smoking causes build of of toxins and tolerance, Edibles work like food, this is the nature's way of consuming stuff, and this can produce a Trip much harder than Shrooms.


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    #26440772 - 01/18/20 08:31 PM (4 years, 10 days ago)

That's a very unique take. Do you have any reports or write ups that reflect a level 5 cannabis experience?


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    #26442187 - 01/19/20 07:14 PM (4 years, 10 days ago)

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That's a very unique take. Do you have any reports or write ups that reflect a level 5 cannabis experience?





I haven't written any reports, but if you see my previous posts, I have moved on from smoking cannbis, shrooms, amanitas, morning glory to edible cannabis only.

I can say from all the experiences that Edible Marijuana is not only a psychoactive but it is a herb, it cures your, it connects you to your inner being. Like you live here in the physical world, just like that you have a subtle body, and a deeper inner soul. It connects you to that. How it works its magic is occult. Once you're in touch with you inner being, then you can have all sorts of visions, experiences, concrete - more real that this physical touch, all realisations.

WARNING - edible cannabis trip is not a Joke, it can be a bit too much, when the inner universe explodes, your nerves have to be made of steel, your heart detached, your soul surrendered to the highest truth, you have to be careful.


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That's a very unique take. Do you have any reports or write ups that reflect a level 5 cannabis experience?





Also a disclaimer, I have been doing yoga, following a vegetarian diet, fasting regularly, for a long time, I'm exercising, connecting with the prana/life force, and marijuana is tool, there are other tools, to connect, so let's not become dependent on these, there are many ways but the best way is to achieve it simply by your own Will.


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That's a very unique take. Do you have any reports or write ups that reflect a level 5 cannabis experience?




A few minor experiences I can share:

Once I was in a club and all they were playing the usual pop/hiphop stuff but I heard it in my native language. I confirmed later with the friends that they weren't playing anything in Hindi.

Another time I was in Sydney walking around in the city but all I saw was Auckland.

Level 5 trips can be intense, like your body carrying the whole universe, each cell speaking out, your consciousness/your soul moving out of the physical body, and circling around in an area of 25 meters around the body, in a violent roller-coaster whirl. Connecting with the higher mind, a library of all the recorded events in the past, and all the events ongoing currently, if you think about something or someone you will connect with them on the mental or vital level, and in close proximity on a physical level.


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