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OfflineSavanna89
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Questions about my first experiences with truffles
    #26435434 - 01/15/20 06:27 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Hey hello

I'm quite new to this, So a week ago tried half of a 15gr bag of truffles
pretty chill, felt some waves some visuals but nothing crazy
and now the day before yesterday i took the other half and other full bag i had together, so about 20 - 22gr i suppose
and that was something else, i was out cold for about 2 hours, intense super fast visuals, racing through the multiverse is my best attempt at describing it. 
but so so fast, constantly changing images, to fast to make any sense of it

from what i have been hearing from terence mckenna and other such podcasts.
they seem to be able to make more sense of whats going on during their trips.
does my body have to get used to this new substance? will it make more sense after a few more sessions?

Also i had a bit of a headache aswell the next day, i read that its quite common
i hope that will go away after a few times aswell

what are your experiences? do i have to adapt to this? or could it be something else aswell? to much to fast?
i might try getting a growkit, see if its different with fresh mushrooms.


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Re: Questions about my first experiences with truffles [Re: Savanna89]
    #26436284 - 01/16/20 07:33 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Savanna89 said:
does my body have to get used to this new substance? will it make more sense after a few more sessions?





Your "body" getting used to the substance would just be tolerance. You can get your mind more familiar with the experience but that will never be substantial as trips can vary widely even within the same dosage range.

Will it make more sense? Yes and no. Personally, after my handful of experiences so far, it feels more familiar. But this is because most of my trips have been within the 3-3.5g dosage of average dose cubes (not sure what that weight translates to in truffles since I've never had or encountered them). But it doesn't make more "sense". Each experience can still be awe inspiring, confusing and different in a way that crushes any expectations I've had from previous experiences. I imagine if you take a specific dosage enough (assuming you have material of the same relative strength) you may get familiar enough with it that (people often describe this as "losing its magic").
Ultimately if you aren't building up tolerance, every experience has the potential to be wildly different based on set, setting and a whole host of other factors.

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Savanna89 said:
Also i had a bit of a headache aswell the next day, i read that its quite common
i hope that will go away after a few times aswell





It can happen, these experiences can be mentally and physically taxing. Maybe eat some bananas and boiled eggs (seems to help me) and stay hydrated/ healthy eating the next day.

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Savanna89 said:
what are your experiences? do i have to adapt to this? or could it be something else aswell? to much to fast?




It is just the nature of these experiences. They are quite variable. Because I don't know truffle dosages, I don't know if what you took is a standard dose, a high/"heroic" dose etc so I can't comment on that. But I think you just had an experience within the bounds of the psychedelic space. Nothing out of the ordinary for this realm. Plus, a large part of the process is integrating and making sense after the fact. And sometimes, it takes a long time to understand what you experienced. I ruminated on my first trip for 2 years! Didn't trip again during that entire time.

I've had experiences on the same dosage with no tolerance that were vastly different even though my set and setting seemed the same. But my mental state at the time must have been different enough to factor into the difference in experience. They were relatively equal in strength but one was dark while the other was filled with blissful and loving intimations. (The dark one had some parallels with yours. Mind was racing at a million thoughts a second, although I didn't have many visuals as my mind was consumed by my ego fighting).

For those who want to work with these magical substances, the wide array of possible experiences are just part of the process. Sounds like you had a great experience! Hopefully you have a long and fruitful journey :cheers:


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Re: Questions about my first experiences with truffles [Re: Savanna89] * 1
    #26436426 - 01/16/20 09:21 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I personally wouldn't let anybody serve as a guide to your psychedelic experience. 
Every body and every mind is individual in its reception of every dose taken.
You can only even somewhat guarantee an individual's physiological changes like dilated pupils, sweating, body temperature fluctuation, anxiety, drowsiness, or restlessness.
Secondarily, your perceptive changes like visual and aural hallucinations, sensitivity to touch, more/less balance/spatial awareness, loss of concept of time.
And least of all, your own psychological takeaway from your experience - how you put everything into perspective or what it does to your worldview.
Not many can elaborate their perception of what they've experienced even if they're exceptionally versed in descriptive language otherwise.
The experience is wholly yours and you'll find what amount you need to achieve what type of experience. And you'll still be surprised.

I do think you reacted totally within the parameters of normal (remember, those parameters are vast.)
It is something so extraordinary that your body will take time to be comfortable with it - and, again, it can still take you off-guard. I've taken hundreds of doses and I still get surprises.

What you should consider about the feeling of 'too much, too fast', is how your state of mind is going into the experience.
Maybe you have many obligations or a busy schedule. Maybe something you've procrastinated. Maybe something eating at your psyche or emotions.
More importantly, maybe you weren't completely willing to submit to the experience the substance had to offer you.
I find that when I get that kind of whiplash, it means that I was trying too hard to contain the experience within the parameters of normal existence
If you do decide to continue using these substances, letting go is very important.
Trust that your body knows how to handle them and that the substance knows how to handle you.

If you do decide to give a go at growing, know that grow kits are highly prone to failure.
Check out the PF Tek. instead. Very beginner-friendly and low-stake.
There are also guides around about growing truffles - aside from 'truffles' you'll be able to find ones with the terms 'sclerotia' or 'stones' .


Edited by footpath (01/16/20 09:26 AM)


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Re: Questions about my first experiences with truffles [Re: footpath]
    #26436455 - 01/16/20 09:40 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

what usually happeneds is you get more "familiar" with it....then randomly itll throw something your way totally off axis and new! just to blow your mind. getting the dose right helps with familiarity...but there are a wide range of trips. Sometimes its just about having fun and feeling good and sometimes it gets therapeutic out of no where. once only 1.5 grams and figured out some shit that i didnt put togather in therapy in 10 years! and it was pritty intense compared to a 2.5-3 gram level...its weird sometimes it gives us control of where things go (or maybe the illusion of control) and sometimes you just gota go where it takes you.....But OVERALL as time goes on you get familiar with it....


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Re: Questions about my first experiences with truffles [Re: Savanna89]
    #26436463 - 01/16/20 09:47 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Hi,

I’d suggest your headache was probably caused by dehydration. Next time keep a bottle of water handy and drink from it often. You will start to notice you need to wee frequently; mushrooms must be a diuretic. So keep the water going in and see how you feel next time.

Good luck,
DJ Ed


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