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How do you feel about slut shaming? 1
#26436347 - 01/16/20 08:33 AM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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How do you feel about slut shaming?
Is eager promiscuity a vice or a virtue in your eyes?
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Asante]
#26436353 - 01/16/20 08:38 AM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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Oh it's totally a vice, objectively. Vices by definition get you into messy situations and fuck up your life. Every promiscuous person has half a dozen super demented stories about their escapades. Otherwise it wouldn't be a vice it would be a hobby.
But we all have vices so shaming someone for it is probably hypocritical no matter who you are. Especially because half of the people who do it secretly envy them for being so free in their sexuality and their lack of hang-ups. I know deep down I would be a slut if I were a pretty girl and I would hate myself for doing it. So lucky I ended up as an ugly dude 
IMO there's a stark difference between judging and shaming. Judging is part of existence. You judge if that guy on the corner is dangerous, you judge if you can trust someone with your heart, your money, your property. To not judge is to be a fool. Shaming, however, is trying to make them feel bad about what they are doing.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Asante] 3
#26436355 - 01/16/20 08:39 AM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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I used to hate on slutty girls when I was a teenager, but then I grew up. If I'd been born a woman I probably would've been a BIG slut....until I grew up.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Asante] 3
#26436366 - 01/16/20 08:45 AM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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I don't agree with shaming anyone for it, because I don't believe it is a vice.
What two mutually consenting adults do together behind closed doors is nobodies business but their own.
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#26436372 - 01/16/20 08:47 AM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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Slut shaming is horrible. It makes women think that they shouldn't have sex with me more than they normally wouldn't.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: 1234go]
#26436479 - 01/16/20 09:55 AM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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Whores are awesome
The expensive hot ones
Somone i know told me not to develop any feeling for them
This was my reaction 
Been close to meeting somone you dont have to pay
But I'm too friendly by nature so it never works out
At least the sluts and whores will always be there and they always reply , like this
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When I was younger, we all poked fun at the slutty girls behind their back, but we still hooked up with them also. At the time it was very hypocritical on my part. The older I have gotten I don’t slut shame anymore. It’s the double standard of the last millennium.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Asante] 2
#26436520 - 01/16/20 10:14 AM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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I think it all boils down to jealousy, prejudice, and insecurities. Anybody who is attractive enough to be a slut entertains it at some level. Anybody who slut shames probably has issues in one of the areas mentioned before. Sluts will even shame other sluts because of these things.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Asante]
#26436551 - 01/16/20 10:34 AM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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Asante said: How do you feel about slut shaming?
It's pretty awful largely because it's not tied to an objective measure if it were "reserved" for the promiscous it would be marginally less bad but it can be used to degrade and belittle individuals who have not really done anything wrong someone gets dumped and sees their girl immediately start dating someone they didn't like? She's a slut who jumps from dick to dick, not a girl who has found personality traits she preferred in a different partner
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Asante said: Is eager promiscuity a vice or a virtue in your eyes?
Indifferent the human animal is programmed for promiscuity -- men are capable and eager to orgasm multiple times per day implying they "naturally" are programmed to try and impregnate multiple partners and the human female goes through a process of constantly shedding infertile eggs, only to be stopped by impregnation
it is not a vice to be given to animal instinct -- but it is likewise only subjectively interpreted through a positive lens in a handful of belief systems
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Tantrika]
#26436588 - 01/16/20 10:58 AM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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I've personally never seen it
Only girls are slut shamers
If it exists, its probably deserved
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: cannabinated]
#26436590 - 01/16/20 10:59 AM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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I think its all rooted in insecurity anyway and just exposes people who dont feel comfortable with themselves
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: cannabinated]
#26436601 - 01/16/20 11:06 AM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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cannabinated said: I've personally never seen it
Only girls are slut shamers
If it exists, its probably deserved
It is arguably more frequent among girls
remember my last girlfriend in high school -- dated through part of grade 11 and all of grade 12 she was constantly berated as a slut by other girls, including her cousin who had wanted to date me
that is sort of where my referal to it not being tied to anything objective comes in; she was belittled as a slut for being in a monogamous relationship for several months to a year+
of course, after we broke up she did go on to sleep with almost all of my friends, presumably as an effort to hurt me but possibly just out of meeting and desiring them over time and not getting to act on it due to our relationship
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Asante]
#26436692 - 01/16/20 11:54 AM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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I love sluts. Basically the only action I got in my teens
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Tantrika]
#26436697 - 01/16/20 11:55 AM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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It's no secret that it's usually easier for a woman to get a guy than it is the other way around. That's just nature. If you're going to shame someone for using an inherant trait/ability to their advantage then IMO you're insecure and should rethink your priorities. Men and women both usually want sex pretty regularly and I think slut shaming all boils down to jealousy and insecurity.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Newbie]
#26436710 - 01/16/20 12:05 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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Whether being highly sexual is a vice or not I'm not really sure but shaming someone for it is petty in any case.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Asante] 1
#26436758 - 01/16/20 12:34 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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They still deserve to be treated like a human and some respect. Most sluts I've fucked like to be called a whore/slut and degraded to some degree. I also like it and I automatically think a little less of them, especially the ones who are not safe about it. After all, there is nothing wrong with liking sex.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: cannabinated]
#26436774 - 01/16/20 12:43 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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cannabinated said: Only girls are slut shamers

And females respect and honor male studs (sluts).
There's obvious double standards due to biology.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Tempalonomous]
#26436780 - 01/16/20 12:46 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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Tempalonomous said: ...Most sluts I've fucked like to be called a whore/slut and degraded to some degree...



antithesis of slut "shame" tho
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: qman]
#26436784 - 01/16/20 12:48 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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cannabinated said: Only girls are slut shamers

And females respect and honor male studs (sluts).
There's obvious double standards due to biology.
existence and proliferation of incel culture challenges this idea more and more tho
bunch of guys who are highly critical of female promiscuity because they consider themselves to be searching for someone faithful
not sure if the "Chad" label would be considered derogatory or not tho, so there may still be double standard
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Tantrika]
#26436795 - 01/16/20 12:55 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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Oh my god yes, nobody uses Chad as a compliment and nobody refers to themselves as a Chad... well I guess except dudes named Chad
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Tantrika]
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cannabinated said: Only girls are slut shamers

And females respect and honor male studs (sluts).
There's obvious double standards due to biology.
existence and proliferation of incel culture challenges this idea more and more tho
bunch of guys who are highly critical of female promiscuity because they consider themselves to be searching for someone faithful
not sure if the "Chad" label would be considered derogatory or not tho, so there may still be double standard
Yep, women can get pregnant and men can't. That's why males don't want slutty female partners if possible and other females use slut shaming to create distrust for their own advantage.
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If you are single then do whatever. Its people who are not faithful to their partner that I have an issue with.
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In my experience, girls who slut shame do so out of jealousy, and men who slut shame do so because they are using it as justification to be abusive. Historically, law enforcement has not cared about prostitutes being raped because you apparently can't rape someone who fucks for money. (Bullshit.) It's the same sort of attitude I have seen from men who slut shame women. A slut can't be raped and if she was raped or beaten she had it coming to her because she was a slut anyways. I've actually seen that mentality from women too.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: qman] 1
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cannabinated said: Only girls are slut shamers

And females respect and honor male studs (sluts).
There's obvious double standards due to biology.
existence and proliferation of incel culture challenges this idea more and more tho
bunch of guys who are highly critical of female promiscuity because they consider themselves to be searching for someone faithful
not sure if the "Chad" label would be considered derogatory or not tho, so there may still be double standard
Yep, women can get pregnant and men can't. That's why males don't want slutty female partners if possible and other females use slut shaming to create distrust for their own advantage.
Yeah that mindset really only came about due to agriculture and land ownership. Men wanted virgin wives who were monogamous just so they could impregnate them until they had a son the men could leave their assets to when they kicked the bucket. It is an ideal built upon greed and nothing else.
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The double standard is real. Women are sluts while men are studs, for the same exact behavior. No one should be slut shamed...except you Stephanie, you skanky ho . You know what you did
Jk...jealous men call attractive women sluts.
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Yeah that mindset really only came about due to agriculture and land ownership. Men wanted virgin wives who were monogamous just so they could impregnate them until they had a son the men could leave their assets to when they kicked the bucket. It is an ideal built upon greed and nothing else.
That is the most feminist thing I have ever heard. Men want loyal women because of greed. Wow must really suck navigating the world with that much misandry
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cannabinated said: Only girls are slut shamers

And females respect and honor male studs (sluts).
There's obvious double standards due to biology.
existence and proliferation of incel culture challenges this idea more and more tho
bunch of guys who are highly critical of female promiscuity because they consider themselves to be searching for someone faithful
not sure if the "Chad" label would be considered derogatory or not tho, so there may still be double standard
Yep, women can get pregnant and men can't. That's why males don't want slutty female partners if possible and other females use slut shaming to create distrust for their own advantage.
Yeah that mindset really only came about due to agriculture and land ownership. Men wanted virgin wives who were monogamous just so they could impregnate them until they had a son the men could leave their assets to when they kicked the bucket. It is an ideal built upon greed and nothing else.
No, that biological instinct goes back millions of years. Males didn't want to take care of another males offspring, they wanted to pass on their own genes.
If you fucking a women who is already one month pregnant from another male, you could end up supporting that offspring falsely believing it's your own, that's just one of the reasons why male jealousy and control over females still exist in males today.
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That’s actually a good point. I just read something in the news about the rising popularity of the hymenplasty. Women are paying upwards of $20,000 to trick men into believing they’re virgins.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: qman]
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qman said: ... No, that biological instinct goes back millions of years. Males didn't want to take care of another males offspring, they wanted to pass on their own genes.
If you fucking a women who is already one month pregnant from another male, you could end up supporting that offspring falsely believing it's your own, that's just one of the reasons why male jealousy and control over females still exist in males today.
You are giving the human race too much credit with this there is time in recorded history where people believed pouring blood on the dead could bring them back to life and did not understand why women menstruated
it is unlikely that tribal humans made the connection that a particular individual sex act was resulting in a child 9 months later and probably informs the long existence of goddess worship and matrilineal traditions that show up in prehistory
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feldman114 said: That’s actually a good point. I just read something in the news about the rising popularity of the hymenplasty. Women are paying upwards of $20,000 to trick men into believing they’re virgins.
the price range soundes appropriate peasant farmers didn't get to pick and choose their partners the way the ruling class did and when you are marrying off a daughter for political purposes, she better meet certain standards
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Tantrika]
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If you fucking a women who is already one month pregnant from another male, you could end up supporting that offspring falsely believing it's your own, that's just one of the reasons why male jealousy and control over females still exist in males today.
You are giving the human race too much credit with this there is time in recorded history where people believed pouring blood on the dead could bring them back to life and did not understand why women menstruated
it is unlikely that tribal humans made the connection that a particular individual sex act was resulting in a child 9 months later and probably informs the long existence of goddess worship and matrilineal traditions that show up in prehistory
That's why the male jealousy is an instinct instead of an intellectual process. Males don't like other males around their female, evolution didn't wait until they figured out cellular biology. This isn't even isolated to humans, it's in many other mammals.
So males didn't want another males penis in their female partner, this is basic commonsense. You don't need to be a geneticist to realize that strong jealously.
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qman said: ... No, that biological instinct goes back millions of years. Males didn't want to take care of another males offspring, they wanted to pass on their own genes.
If you fucking a women who is already one month pregnant from another male, you could end up supporting that offspring falsely believing it's your own, that's just one of the reasons why male jealousy and control over females still exist in males today.
You are giving the human race too much credit with this there is time in recorded history where people believed pouring blood on the dead could bring them back to life and did not understand why women menstruated
it is unlikely that tribal humans made the connection that a particular individual sex act was resulting in a child 9 months later and probably informs the long existence of goddess worship and matrilineal traditions that show up in prehistory
That's why the male jealousy is an instinct instead of an intellectual process. Males don't like other males around their female, evolution didn't wait until they figured out cellular biology. This isn't even isolated to humans, it's in many other mammals.
So males didn't want another males penis in their female partner, this is basic commonsense. You don't need to be a geneticist to realize that strong jealously.
Ehhhhh, preservation of relationship is more characteristic of pair-bonding bird species
in terms of mammalian relatives of humans, Chimpanzees and Bonobos are promiscuous species
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Bonobos, a close cousin of the more widely known chimpanzee, are willing to do just about anything in the sexual realm if it helps them climb the social ladder. "And, boy, do they like sex," says Jennifer Welsh at LiveScience. Here, a guide to these "promiscuous primates":
Bonobos have a lot of sex? They sure do. Think of the bonobo as the "lovemaking cousin of the warrior chimp," says Welsh. The animals engage in sexual activity with "virtually all partner combinations in a variety of positions." For them, sexual activity alleviates conflict, demonstrates affection, reduces stress, and — as demonstrated in a new study — helps the primates communicate social status.
How do they use sex to climb the social ladder? A new study published in the journal Scientific Reports observed primates in three enclosures at the Lola Ya Bonobo Sanctuary in the Congo. Researchers found that low-ranking females made distinctive sounds — called "copulation calls" — during sex with high-ranking females in order to brag to other top females around them. "Using vocalizations, females only advertise sexual contacts with important group members," says study author Dr. Zanna Clay. "It's all about climbing up the social ladder for female bonobos."
Do all bonobos brag about sex? No. A high-ranking bonobo typically doesn't brag when having sex with an inferior female — it's only the low-ranking females who call out. And if a group's "alpha" female is within earshot, the inferior female is far more likely to kiss and tell. "They are very aware of the alpha female, who is the most relevant group member," Clay says. "When she's around, they are much more likely to advertise these sexual friendships."
Why are bonobos so concerned with social climbing? Females leave their original groups as juveniles and join new groups upon adulthood. If a female bonobo can climb to the top of her new social circle by proving her cred with other females, it gives her a much better chance of scoring with the desirable male of her choosing, researchers say.
https://theweek.com/articles/477608/why-female-bonobos-are-such-promiscuous-primates
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Cross-cultural studies indicate that women's sexual attractiveness generally peaks before motherhood and declines with age [1]. Cues of female youth are thought to be attractive because humans maintain long-term pair bonds, making reproductive value (i.e. future reproductive potential) particularly important to males 2, 3. Menopause is believed to exaggerate this preference for youth by limiting women's future fertility 1, 4. This theory predicts that in species lacking long-term pair bonds and menopause, males should not exhibit a preference for young mates. We tested this prediction by studying male preferences in our closest living relative, the chimpanzee (Pan troglodytes). We show that despite their promiscuous mating system, chimpanzee males, like humans, prefer some females over others. However, in contrast to humans, chimpanzee males prefer older, not younger, females. These data robustly discriminate patterns of male mate choice between humans and chimpanzees. Given that the human lineage evolved from a chimpanzee-like ancestor, they indicate that male preference for youth is a derived human feature, likely adapted from a tendency to form unusually long term mating bonds.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982206022676
your expressions of strong jealousy would suggest a stronger lining up with later land-ownership and seperation by family units rather than early tribal communal living where people partied and fucked around the fire
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Tantrika]
#26436913 - 01/16/20 02:24 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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Even though I've never had the privilege to experience a relationship
I feel no jealousy for everyone who has or had one, many
Honestly just wish everyone well
But I'm mostly just looking to bang for free , I've found myself lasting to long so that's good
Finding this is probably my biggest struggle
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Asante]
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Sluts should be celebrated, not shamed. They should be considered better than women who are not sluts.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: nooneman]
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: feldman114]
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I don't really like either. I like a woman who can carry a conversation and shows genuine interest in me.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Newbie]
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Well preference is different for relationships but at a party are you going home with the shy girl in the corner or the girl who just walks up and sits in your lap and starts hitting on you... Cmon
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Tantrika]
#26436941 - 01/16/20 02:47 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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For sake of posterity tho, examples of mammals opting not to care for the young of others
male lions kill rival lions cubs to induce fertility in females more quickly, which appears a common reproductive tactic:
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"Before the 1970s, any type of infanticide in animals was considered pathological," says Craig Stanford, a primatologist at the University of Southern California in Los Angeles. "Now, certain scenarios are recognized as part of an animal's reproductive strategy."
Male lions are one of the most cited examples of this type of infanticide. Typically, a pride of lions includes one or two adult males who father the cubs. If other males successfully oust these fathers, the newcomers almost immediately kill any young cubs, particularly those the female lions are nursing—despite every effort on the mothers' part to stop the slaughter. Then the females quickly become fertile again and mate with the very males who killed their cubs.
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Male bonobos are one of the few great apes who have not been seen killing infants. This is probably because female bonobos are the dominant members of their societies, making it risky for the males to attack any youngsters. Also, bonobos happily mate with everyone in their community. Thus, males aren't readily able to identify which kids are theirs.
A common counter-reproductive strategy of females in many animal societies is to confuse males about which (if any) kids they've fathered. It doesn't always work.
Male bottlenose dolphins, for instance, remember which females they've mated with. When a male dolphin encounters a strange female with a young calf, he'll do his best to separate the pair and will then severely injure or kill the youngster by bashing it and heaving it through the air.
If the infant dies, the mother will become fertile in a few months—giving the killer male a chance to father her next calf. If the infant lives, the mother won't be receptive for another three to four years—a long time from a male's standpoint. In the game of life, it doesn't pay to wait for her to rear her kid, especially if you know it's not yours. Better to get rid of it.
tho strange behaviour has also been reported -- or maybe the male Chimp was just a redneck looking to get with his sister
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The zookeepers had kept Gracie away from the rest of the troop for three months after she gave birth, giving her time to bond peacefully with her infant.
All seemed to be going well, and the keepers decided to slowly reintroduce the pair to their community. The other chimpanzees welcomed back the pair, and peered with curiosity at the new infant—the first baby chimp born at the zoo in 13 years.
But one day, without warning, Gracie's brother snatched the infant from her arms and dashed around the enclosure slamming her against the ground and walls. Despite Gracie's cries and protests, he wouldn't give back the now-dead baby, and it wasn't possible for the keepers to intervene.
"He used the baby for a big display, to show off," Stanford says. "It's impossible to explain why.
"It was very odd because the male was the mother's brother; the baby was his niece," Stanford adds. "It's not the usual scenario that happens in the wild, so it's difficult to explain. But as far as I can tell, it did not involve any mismanagement by the zoo. It wasn't caused by the chimpanzees being in captivity."
According to the rules of reproductive success, it would have made the most sense for Gracie's brother to protect his niece because they were related. If his niece grew up and had babies of her own, they would also carry some of his genetic legacy. His reproductive success would be enhanced.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/3/140328-sloth-bear-zoo-infanticide-chimps-bonobos-animals/
and a particularly interesting case of a male tiger taking up care for (presumed to be his) orphaned cubs instead of just eating them as would be typical
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Forest officials in northern India say a male tiger appears to be caring for two orphaned cubs in an extremely rare display of paternal feeling.
The cubs lost their mother in February in the Ranthambore tiger reserve. Officials there say they believe the male tiger, named T25, is their father.
Wildlife experts say cubs are usually raised by their mothers and male tigers often kill cubs they come across.
Officials believe there is no recorded evidence of males behaving like this.
Photographs taken by hidden cameras in the forest reserve in India's northern Rajasthan state have documented the tiger's behaviour. The most recent images show the male tiger walking just a metre behind one of the cubs, Ranthambore field director Rajesh Gupta told the BBC.
The cubs, who are believed to be about eight months old now, were first seen on 29 January with their mother T5, a forest official in Ranthambore told the BBC.
He said after the tigress died on 9 February, the cubs were being reared in the wild by forest department staff.
The cubs are too young to make a kill on their own and are being provided with bait by forest staff.
"During my visit to the park on Monday 30 May, I was standing on the top of a cliff and I saw one of the cubs down below eating the kill," Mr Gupta says.
"It is seen in good health," he said. It appears as if the male tiger is allowing the cubs to eat their kill and not taking it for himself."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-south-asia-13598386
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: lighthouse09]
#26436944 - 01/16/20 02:49 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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I would probably approach the shy one and try to strike up a conversation. They're both at a party so they're there to have fun and mingle.
I guess it depends on if I'm looking for a one night stand or a relationship, to be honest. Right now I'm kind open for a relationship so I'm picking the shy one.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Newbie]
#26436945 - 01/16/20 02:49 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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Question is, who do you find more attractive. Not who you go for.
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What if 2 women meet this requirement equally well, but one acts slutty while the other acts innocent. Who would you be more attracted to?
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: feldman114]
#26436963 - 01/16/20 03:03 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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I'm pretty ashamed that I'm not a slut. I feel like being a slut might make me a better person.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: chibiabos]
#26436966 - 01/16/20 03:05 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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chibiabos said: I'm pretty ashamed that I'm not a slut. I feel like being a slut might make me a better person. 
Only according to people who want to fuck you
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: feldman114]
#26436968 - 01/16/20 03:08 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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chibiabos said: I'm pretty ashamed that I'm not a slut. I feel like being a slut might make me a better person. 
Only according to people who want to fuck you
It doesn't hurt to be warm, outgoing and have a giant cock. You just need to make sure that it's well lubricated.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: feldman114]
#26436969 - 01/16/20 03:08 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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feldman114 said: Question is, who do you find more attractive. Not who you go for.
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Newbie said: I don't really like either. I like a woman who can carry a conversation and shows genuine interest in me.
What if 2 women meet this requirement equally well, but one acts slutty while the other acts innocent. Who would you be more attracted to?
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Newbie said: I would probably approach the shy one and try to strike up a conversation. They're both at a party so they're there to have fun and mingle.
I guess it depends on if I'm looking for a one night stand or a relationship, to be honest. Right now I'm kind open for a relationship so I'm picking the shy one.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Newbie]
#26436980 - 01/16/20 03:12 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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Also (honest question), why should I give a shit about whether a woman is a slut or not? Most of the time that I'm talking to women we're just hanging out and trying to unwind.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: feldman114]
#26436992 - 01/16/20 03:17 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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chibiabos said: I'm pretty ashamed that I'm not a slut. I feel like being a slut might make me a better person. 
Only according to people who want to fuck you
I disagree. I think more highly of all women who are sluts, not just the ones I want to fuck.
Again, I think we should actively celebrate all sluts and sluttiness as much as possible because sluts are awesome. There is literally zero downside, and it's silly and stupid to slut shame people in general, and it's highly counter productive and bad for our society, and just plain silly. Why would sluts conceivably be a bad thing? It's just plain illogical. Sluts are clearly an awesome thing in our society that should be celebrated, not shamed.
It's bad for everyone involved if you slut shame, and good for everyone involved if you slut celebrate.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: bloodsheen]
#26437097 - 01/16/20 04:16 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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Yeah that mindset really only came about due to agriculture and land ownership. Men wanted virgin wives who were monogamous just so they could impregnate them until they had a son the men could leave their assets to when they kicked the bucket. It is an ideal built upon greed and nothing else.
That is the most feminist thing I have ever heard. Men want loyal women because of greed. Wow must really suck navigating the world with that much misandry
Tantrika touched on this point pretty well. Early tribal people likely were not monogamous and everybody raised everybody's offspring.
If monogamy is your preference that's fine but it is a preference no more or less valid than polyamory or other forms of non-monigamy, provided communication is present and abuse is not taking place. (Just like in a monogamous relationship! Wow!).
Additionally, I navigate the world just fine and dandy. Better than you must be with all these unloyal slutty women around.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: qman]
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Yeah that mindset really only came about due to agriculture and land ownership. Men wanted virgin wives who were monogamous just so they could impregnate them until they had a son the men could leave their assets to when they kicked the bucket. It is an ideal built upon greed and nothing else.
No, that biological instinct goes back millions of years. Males didn't want to take care of another males offspring, they wanted to pass on their own genes.
If you fucking a women who is already one month pregnant from another male, you could end up supporting that offspring falsely believing it's your own, that's just one of the reasons why male jealousy and control over females still exist in males today.
Before agriculture and land ownership it is likely that females had sex with multiple men to ensure the strongest genetic match to create healthy offspring, considering everyone raised everyone's Offspring anyways. Think about it. Women only ovulate once a month and once pregnancy occurs that's it for at least 9 months. Men could impregnate a different woman every day, so it makes sense that women would want that egg to count, and that offspring to be strong. It takes a village. At least it used to.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Patlal]
#26437123 - 01/16/20 04:39 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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Yeah that mindset really only came about due to agriculture and land ownership. Men wanted virgin wives who were monogamous just so they could impregnate them until they had a son the men could leave their assets to when they kicked the bucket. It is an ideal built upon greed and nothing else.
That is the most feminist thing I have ever heard. Men want loyal women because of greed. Wow must really suck navigating the world with that much misandry
Tantrika touched on this point pretty well. Early tribal people likely were not monogamous and everybody raised everybody's offspring.
If monogamy is your preference that's fine but it is a preference no more or less valid than polyamory or other forms of non-monigamy, provided communication is present and abuse is not taking place. (Just like in a monogamous relationship! Wow!).
Additionally, I navigate the world just fine and dandy. Better than you must be with all these unloyal slutty women around.
Actually it is hard to navigate the world with the disloyalty of human kind. If you really think early humanity were essentially a giant polyamorous orgy, well idk what to tell you on that. I guess we are just gonna have to agree to disagree. The unbelievable frequency of domestic violence make a that a pretty unlikely scenario
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: bloodsheen]
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Yeah that mindset really only came about due to agriculture and land ownership. Men wanted virgin wives who were monogamous just so they could impregnate them until they had a son the men could leave their assets to when they kicked the bucket. It is an ideal built upon greed and nothing else.
That is the most feminist thing I have ever heard. Men want loyal women because of greed. Wow must really suck navigating the world with that much misandry
Tantrika touched on this point pretty well. Early tribal people likely were not monogamous and everybody raised everybody's offspring.
If monogamy is your preference that's fine but it is a preference no more or less valid than polyamory or other forms of non-monogamy, provided communication is present and abuse is not taking place. (Just like in a monogamous relationship! Wow!).
Additionally, I navigate the world just fine and dandy. Better than you must be with all these unloyal slutty women around.
Actually it is hard to navigate the world with the disloyalty of human kind. If you really think early humanity were essentially a giant polyamorous orgy, well idk what to tell you on that. I guess we are just gonna have to agree to disagree. The unbelievable frequency of domestic violence make a that a pretty unlikely scenario
I can agree to disagree, although I am not sure what domestic violence has to do with your point. While I will certainly agree with you that there is a lot of it, it is often taught, trickling down through generations.
Abuse isn't so much nature as it is nurture. A man wanting complete and total control over his spouse is not bioligy, it is bigotry.
A lot of women will refer to their abusive spouses as "jealous." Jealousy stems from insecurity, which again is not biology, it is social conditioning.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: bloodsheen]
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bloodsheen said: ...If you really think early humanity were essentially a giant polyamorous orgy, well idk what to tell you on that. ...
For clarification with regards to my earlier statement of "partied and fucked around the fire" it was a tonque-in-cheek way to address the celebratory rituals of hunter gatherer societies which are what presumably became the fertility rituals later associated with yearly crop growth
but before it became important to plant and harvest at a certain time; and to be constrained to household life and working the field humans had more loose partnering relationships with one another, as hunts in certain scenarios resulted in all adult men of the tribe being gone for ideterminate spans of time and when childhood and adulthood were very much communal affairs
prolly also important to note that this is not me saying women ran things just that family lineages were likely traced through mothers because it was easy to be certain of who your mother was and your father may have died of hunting injury between your conception and birth

recognize when getting back to stone age cultures that everything is very much speculation based on the remote bits of record we have access to
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Well tantrika's posts got me thinking...
She posted a lot about animals, and even though humans may be just an evolved ape, we are far separated from any other animal on this planet. We inhabit every continent on this earth, even if our inhabitation on Antarctica is temporary. No other mammal has the fortitude or reasoning skills to be as widespread as Homo Sapiens. We live in tropical forest, deserts, mountains, islands, tundras, everywhere. Comparing the basic reproductive drive of animals to a being that is able to reason and create the world we have today is, IMO, not a valid argument.
Also please show me how the flying fuck we know what early tribal people were doing. The written record of humanity takes a drastic drop off at 2000+ years. Homo sapiens supposedly evolved ~200,000 years ago, the accounts of anything 5000 years plus ago is almost nonexistent and mainly comes as pictures/art/artifacts. We have very little clue what are ancestors where up to for 177,000 years before then.
Also one of your post said something along the lines of human males are, or should be, more attracted to young females than old because of long term bonds and menopause. Maybe that is true, but in my case i find older women far more attractive than younger
And all of this should be taken with a grain of salt because i do not want to bring a child into a world where you can't call someone who is acting retarded a retard, or acting slutty a slut without being accused of a hate crime, harassment, or bullying. If you're a dumbass you're a dumbass. If you're a slut you're a slut. No shaming, just truth, no matter how much it hurts your feelings.
Do i have a problem with anyone, male or female, being a slut? No, what you do with your body is your own business. Don't have a problem letting them know they are a slut either when they advertise their personal business. FWIW my attraction to slutty girls is 100% physical, if they are attractive, my interest in a long term relationship with someone who is easy is very little.
PS. don't hate me tantrika i enjoy reading your post, but i disagree with you here
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Tantrika]
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Tantrika said: recognize when getting back to stone age cultures that everything is very much speculation based on the remote bits of record we have access to
Well shit i couldn't even finish my post before you clarified Also that picture you showed, from what i was taught when i was in school was believed to show how early humans understood and valued fertility.
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She posted a lot about animals, and even though humans may be just an evolved ape, we are far separated from any other animal on this planet. We inhabit every continent on this earth, even if our inhabitation on Antarctica is temporary. No other mammal has the fortitude or reasoning skills to be as widespread as Homo Sapiens. We live in tropical forest, deserts, mountains, islands, tundras, everywhere. Comparing the basic reproductive drive of animals to a being that is able to reason and create the world we have today is, IMO, not a valid argument.
Also please show me how the flying fuck we know what early tribal people were doing. The written record of humanity takes a drastic drop off at 2000+ years. Homo sapiens supposedly evolved ~200,000 years ago, the accounts of anything 5000 years plus ago is almost nonexistent and mainly comes as pictures/art/artifacts. We have very little clue what are ancestors where up to for 177,000 years before then. ...
To be fair, Qman brought up the concept of humans maintaining certain biologically informed attitudes for millions of years as well as the comparison to other mammals
simply went on to demonstrate how those do not necessarily support his point
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Personally also prefer older women, have since around 19-20
also have a strong personal bias towards women who express intelligence or wisdom as an attractive trait tho
but that was a postulate informing the reasoning of studying chimps as a comparison, and can comprehend the scientists' decisions to perform the study
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Well shit i couldn't even finish my post before you clarified Also that picture you showed, from what i was taught when i was in school was believed to show how early humans understood and valued fertility.
yeah, but it also seems to hold more implications of female agency in fertility
and strongly contrasts with the (culturally much later) Hōnen Matsuri in Japan where the fertilic value is ascribed to the penis

when studying religion at university, learning of this one made me retch pretty hard not because of it being a big penis but because it's also celebrated to have little kids run up and rub it for good fortune
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Tantrika said: also have a strong personal bias towards women who express intelligence or wisdom as an attractive trait tho
Indeed I completely agree, i think we are on the same page here. Like i said i couldn't even finish my response before you clarified. I just found the animal argument a little misleading, no offense meant, they were interesting reads.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Asante]
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A slut is just a female version of a regular man with regular hornyness
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Tantrika]
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Tantrika said: recognize when getting back to stone age cultures that everything is very much speculation based on the remote bits of record we have access to
Well shit i couldn't even finish my post before you clarified Also that picture you showed, from what i was taught when i was in school was believed to show how early humans understood and valued fertility.
yeah, but it also seems to hold more implications of female agency in fertility
and strongly contrasts with the (culturally much later) Hōnen Matsuri in Japan where the fertilic value is ascribed to the penis

when studying religion at university, learning of this one made me retch pretty hard not because of it being a big penis but because it's also celebrated to have little kids run up and rub it for good fortune

Holy Dick! Humans are weird
Yeah i've never heard of the Hōnen Matsuri, i will have to read up.
I do know cultures have gone through periods of matriarchal and patriarchal periods, whether separated by time or geographic location. I actually have nothing against your statement of "partied and fucked around the fire". We really don't know, but it has been speculated that even judeo christian religion was started as a fertility cult. Now this is coming from reading "The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross" by John Allegro which you can think of however you wish. However he does make some thought provoking statements.
He also says Jesus was a mushroom so... Interesting read nonetheless
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If I were a girl, I'd be a slut with a mattress strapped to my back.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Asante] 9
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Im only againist sluts (men or women) who cheat on their partners in secret. Cheating sluts should be shamed in my opinion.
But if a single man or single woman just likes to bang random people on a regular basis, bang away! No judgement there.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 2
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Or if that is their deal with their partner.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Shroomslip]
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Shroomslip said: If I were a girl, I'd be a slut with a mattress strapped to my back.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Shroomslip]
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Shroomslip said: If I were a girl, I'd be a slut with a mattress strapped to my back.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Patlal]
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I wouldn't be driving anywhere. One of my 15 fuck buddies would just throw me in the bed of his lifted Chevy.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: psi]
#26437361 - 01/16/20 07:07 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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psi said: Or if that is their deal with their partner.
I would be interested in finding something like that
Get bored banging the same ones and I like meeting new ones
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Yeah something about it
Metting them for the first time
Making eye contact
Just being like , what's up
Getting naked right away
Lol
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Sometimes you have to learn the hard way. I dont condone it or not condone it.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: mt cleverest]
#26437959 - 01/17/20 07:30 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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Sluts are gratifying but there is a major drag on society as a whole in terms of morality and honor due to the advent of birth control and casual sex.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: feldman114]
#26437968 - 01/17/20 07:35 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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feldman114 said: Question is, who do you find more attractive. Not who you go for.
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Newbie said: I don't really like either. I like a woman who can carry a conversation and shows genuine interest in me.
What if 2 women meet this requirement equally well, but one acts slutty while the other acts innocent. Who would you be more attracted to?
Why can’t sluts be interesting and hold a conversation?
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: chibiabos]
#26437972 - 01/17/20 07:39 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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chibiabos said: I'm pretty ashamed that I'm not a slut. I feel like being a slut might make me a better person. 
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Metting them for the first time
Making eye contact
Just being like , what's up
Getting naked right away
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: koods]
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Pretty much every time it was more than good
Two or three times I had to pretty much run out the door 
As I was scared to death
You learn how to do it as you go
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Roflspammer]
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Roflspammer said: Sluts are gratifying but there is a major drag on society as a whole in terms of morality and honor due to the advent of birth control and casual sex.
You were doing good for three words.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Brian Jones] 1
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: koods]
#26438087 - 01/17/20 09:05 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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I grew up being told that males are sexually depraved like animals and that any sexual behaviour and promiscuity is because male inherit animalhood and vice instincts.
I was taught that woman find repulsive when a male tries to initiate sex. And i was also taught that any sexual desire or lustful act made by a male is shameful and almost criminal because of the implication of the woman being innocent and pure.
One of the teachers were very explicit in the part that all wars and crimes were done by males and that it was because of our dangling parts making us animal like and brutes and because we were intellectually inferior and unable to control our urges.
I remember one of our teachers, the one who taught religion who pretty much told us that as a male if you are unable to control your urges and end up masturbating you could not enter heaven and that since God now despise everybody should despise you too.
I was 9 the first time i tried to cut my genitals, i had an erection one morning that i could not get down and i freaked out.
Good times.
I think slut shaming is a similar thing, it can be bad when you are a little kid. When you are an adult you should expect people to disagree with you and not be your friends just because they are humans.
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Slut shaming in the colloquial sense it damaging. People should be educated about the long-term downstream effects of promiscuity so it doesn't feel like bullying.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Roflspammer]
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Idk, is there anyone who doesn’t understand the risks/downsides of promiscuity? No offense, but your post kinda reads like a pitch from one of those “retreats” where Christians send their gay kids to “cure” them, except for sluts. “Educate” the sluttiness our of them
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: koods]
#26438124 - 01/17/20 09:17 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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Newbie said: I don't really like either. I like a woman who can carry a conversation and shows genuine interest in me.
What if 2 women meet this requirement equally well, but one acts slutty while the other acts innocent. Who would you be more attracted to?
Why can’t sluts be interesting and hold a conversation?
I guess I just hear the word slut and it automatically puts a negative connotation on a woman who enjoys a lot of sex. Kind of like how some women say men only want sex, which makes us look negative. I don't consider very sexually active women sluts, though. So I guess I'm guilty of letting that word sway my judgement.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: living_failure] 2
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living_failure said: I grew up being told that males are sexually depraved like animals and that any sexual behaviour and promiscuity is because male inherit animalhood and vice instincts.
I was taught that woman find repulsive when a male tries to initiate sex. And i was also taught that any sexual desire or lustful act made by a male is shameful and almost criminal because of the implication of the woman being innocent and pure.
One of the teachers were very explicit in the part that all wars and crimes were done by males and that it was because of our dangling parts making us animal like and brutes and because we were intellectually inferior and unable to control our urges.
I remember one of our teachers, the one who taught religion who pretty much told us that as a male if you are unable to control your urges and end up masturbating you could not enter heaven and that since God now despise everybody should despise you too.
I was 9 the first time i tried to cut my genitals, i had an erection one morning that i could not get down and i freaked out.
Good times.
I'm so very sorry this happened to you.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: 1234go]
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I’m like 100% sure that dude went to a catholic school
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There’s no way someone who got hard at age 9 is going to get into heaven, though
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: koods]
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Right? what a sinner!! I just can’t imagine Jesus forgiving him
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Well, had he gone to his pastor for a special catholic boner blessing, he might have made it.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: feldman114]
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Historically there were societies and cultures that worshipped their prostitutes. It was seen as a bit of a honour for a girl to be pretty enough to be one, it's quite the life of luxury in times where survival was a core part of the human experience. With that in mind I think, despite there being a lot of hyper-religious influences in Western culture in the past, I always saw the idea of slut shaming to be more about who the person is. It's a moral standard, or an animalistic one. There's going to be pretty obvious distinctions in how we judge our peers if say, one were to carry herself in a more "ladylike" fashion, versus someone who's just nasty and overt. Not to say women would be my focus here, men get treated as sluts way more frivolously than women. It's a baked in part of our culture. "We can't control this." Whatever.. such an excuse. All that being said there are probably better ways to judge someone based on their character than how promiscuous they are, if someone felt the need to do so.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: nooneman]
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chibiabos said: I'm pretty ashamed that I'm not a slut. I feel like being a slut might make me a better person. 
Only according to people who want to fuck you
I disagree. I think more highly of all women who are sluts, not just the ones I want to fuck.
Again, I think we should actively celebrate all sluts and sluttiness as much as possible because sluts are awesome. There is literally zero downside, and it's silly and stupid to slut shame people in general, and it's highly counter productive and bad for our society, and just plain silly. Why would sluts conceivably be a bad thing? It's just plain illogical. Sluts are clearly an awesome thing in our society that should be celebrated, not shamed.
It's bad for everyone involved if you slut shame, and good for everyone involved if you slut celebrate.
I agree, sluts are awesome until you find out your GF or wife is behaving like one.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: qman]
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chibiabos said: I'm pretty ashamed that I'm not a slut. I feel like being a slut might make me a better person. 
Only according to people who want to fuck you
I disagree. I think more highly of all women who are sluts, not just the ones I want to fuck.
Again, I think we should actively celebrate all sluts and sluttiness as much as possible because sluts are awesome. There is literally zero downside, and it's silly and stupid to slut shame people in general, and it's highly counter productive and bad for our society, and just plain silly. Why would sluts conceivably be a bad thing? It's just plain illogical. Sluts are clearly an awesome thing in our society that should be celebrated, not shamed.
It's bad for everyone involved if you slut shame, and good for everyone involved if you slut celebrate.
I agree, sluts are awesome until you find out your GF or wife is behaving like one.
At least in that scenario, there isn't really a double standard in society that celebrates men cheating on their wives
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: qman]
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Yeah that mindset really only came about due to agriculture and land ownership. Men wanted virgin wives who were monogamous just so they could impregnate them until they had a son the men could leave their assets to when they kicked the bucket. It is an ideal built upon greed and nothing else.
That is the most feminist thing I have ever heard. Men want loyal women because of greed. Wow must really suck navigating the world with that much misandry
Tantrika touched on this point pretty well. Early tribal people likely were not monogamous and everybody raised everybody's offspring.
If monogamy is your preference that's fine but it is a preference no more or less valid than polyamory or other forms of non-monogamy, provided communication is present and abuse is not taking place. (Just like in a monogamous relationship! Wow!).
Additionally, I navigate the world just fine and dandy. Better than you must be with all these unloyal slutty women around.
Actually it is hard to navigate the world with the disloyalty of human kind. If you really think early humanity were essentially a giant polyamorous orgy, well idk what to tell you on that. I guess we are just gonna have to agree to disagree. The unbelievable frequency of domestic violence make a that a pretty unlikely scenario
I can agree to disagree, although I am not sure what domestic violence has to do with your point. While I will certainly agree with you that there is a lot of it, it is often taught, trickling down through generations.
Abuse isn't so much nature as it is nurture. A man wanting complete and total control over his spouse is not bioligy, it is bigotry.
A lot of women will refer to their abusive spouses as "jealous." Jealousy stems from insecurity, which again is not biology, it is social conditioning.
It's a combination of BOTH biology and sometimes social conditioning. Jealously isn't necessarily abuse, but it can sometimes lead to abusive behavior.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: qman]
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One of them was cool
She had a little dog
she asked if it was ok to get us pizza and chicken wings
it was for the dog
So I said alright
When they delivered the pizza and stuff to the room
she was sucking my dick for a good while
She jumped up , got dressed really fast
Apologized to me , I thought it was pretty cool
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The dog was sucking your dick ? They don't have lips
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There are a lot of people who don't understand what undermining the nuclear family means for society at large and how we function as individuals within that society, myself included. I don't think it's healthy, and I'm not dogmatically religious. I believe people should be sluts for each other in committed relationships, not sluts for everyone.
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Being promiscuous for the average person with normal expressions of loyalty, emotion and jealousy is more-or-less an expression of neglect towards the meaning behind the act, which in my own view, tells me that a promiscuous person is more materialistic and value-based than honor based, which says a lot about an individuals character. We aren't bonobos despite our DNA genotype similarities. Our societal phenotype is expressed entirely differently, and that's obvious.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Roflspammer]
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You don't think someone can be of character and still enjoy the company of many people? That's a little too black and white for me. Some people can't find love. Some people don't want it. Some people have the luxury of being wanted by the many. I don't completely disagree, a little shame and self control is good for a person. But to cast such a generalization requires a measure of reflection - how do we get here? Or there? I can imagine scenarios where promiscuity can make one a better person. If you can't you're probably not trying hard enough
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What are people’s opinions on prude shaming?
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: koods]
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It’s whack bro
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As someone who works in the mental health field at a professional level, I've come to notice that most people are looking for a sense of belonging and community; family as you will. Whenever that happens for you, young age or an old age, the only way to make that sustainable is through loyalty, integrity, and trust. Some people function best in polyamorous relationships, I don't doubt that, and I'm arguing that they are the minority. The issue now is that the mainstream is pushing that this casual model is something for everyone, which is not the case as you can tell for speaking to anyone about a relationship that they actually care about. There's a whole slew of mental health facilities and treatment programs, and resources just to rehabilitate damage that has occurred from relationships that involve infidelity. Our society promotes infidelity, and the fact that there's a discussion that even argues that it's a good idea highlights the error in thinking.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: bloodsheen]
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Roflspammer]
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Prude shaming is fine according to society, at least until straight men get a progressive movement going. #DicksToo
The problem is, if you talk about it, you get called a prude/pussy, so no man is gonna admit it's a problem for fear of immediately revealing themselves as a prude.
It’s like what Michelle Wolf said in her last special about little dicks. She says “people with small dicks should kill themselves”, and no one can call her out without being immediately branded “small-dick”.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Asante]
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The young tend to benefit from casual dating and multiple partners, which is valuable in the sense that teaches you what you want, and what's not good in a partner when you have limited time to do so. Deeply open intimate relationships are very complex, and starting off something serious which has potential for legacy is difficult if you're starting from this initial square. I don't think polyamory is inherently bad, but I definitely believe that the average person is predisposed towards monogamy and is being sold a lie by the mainstream acceptable social norms that have arisen out of the birth control pill which will set them up for disaster down the road. It's like trying to build a banquet on a mahogany table that only has three out of four legs.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26438633 - 01/17/20 01:50 PM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: Im only againist sluts (men or women) who cheat on their partners in secret. Cheating sluts should be shamed in my opinion.
But if a single man or single woman just likes to bang random people on a regular basis, bang away! No judgement there.
I not only don't judge them, I ask them if they would like a drink.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Roflspammer]
#26438692 - 01/17/20 02:32 PM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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I definitely believe that the average person is predisposed towards monogamy
I don't believe this, in fact I believe the opposite, and it's the media/society that pushes the narrative that family/having kids is the ultimate way to be and monogamy is the ultimate/only way to be. We're mammals and naturally want to have sex with as many partners as possible. Some people can do it some can't. Who gives a flying fuck who or how many people fuck however many people (adults) as long as it's agreed on by both or all people that are fucking?
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: tyrannicalrex] 1
#26438879 - 01/17/20 04:35 PM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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Whether the media or society pushes a narrative or not doesn't make the statement untrue. The average person is indeed predisposed towards monogamy. Many mammals and even birds are also predisposed to monogamy, but not all. Can't really find fault in what he's saying there myself, it appears to be genuinely true. Even if someone has many partners in a lifetime, they are typically in monogamous relationships and only rarely are the dynamics in place to open that up to more people.
Many primates are naturally monogamous, strictly so. Others are not at all, and others are a mixed group like humans. Many animals are more strictly monogamous than humans. It's not all media/society pressuring a narrative that makes it so, it has been the primary (but not only) relationship dynamic for probably at least as long as there has been agriculture and possibly longer in some, but not all, human groups.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: PatrickKn]
#26438978 - 01/17/20 05:37 PM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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I should go to this and pretend I’m outraged
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: PatrickKn]
#26473431 - 02/07/20 08:23 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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PatrickKn said: Whether the media or society pushes a narrative or not doesn't make the statement untrue. The average person is indeed predisposed towards monogamy. Many mammals and even birds are also predisposed to monogamy, but not all. Can't really find fault in what he's saying there myself, it appears to be genuinely true. Even if someone has many partners in a lifetime, they are typically in monogamous relationships and only rarely are the dynamics in place to open that up to more people.
Many primates are naturally monogamous, strictly so. Others are not at all, and others are a mixed group like humans. Many animals are more strictly monogamous than humans. It's not all media/society pressuring a narrative that makes it so, it has been the primary (but not only) relationship dynamic for probably at least as long as there has been agriculture and possibly longer in some, but not all, human groups.
Humans and many mammals are good at serial monogamy, a different but specific partner each "mating season" (humans unlike many mammals do not have "heat" cycles so much as perpetual sexual activity) which is really just a half-step away from polyamory because it is still rotating through partners; just a different approach to doing so
really just ressurecting this thread because of trans fish tho 

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This native Caribbean fish can change sex faster than your daily mood swings. But despite that, it remains faithful to one mate.
Hermaphroditism is a trait found in species that posses both male and female reproductive organs. Although monogamy and hermaphroditism are common in fishes, both traits in one organism make the chalk bass quite uncommon.
A new research published in the journal Behavioral Ecology suggests that chalk bass (Serranus tortugarum) may only be three inches small, but it can change sex up to 20 times a day.
"I found it fascinating that fish with a rather unconventional reproductive strategy would end up being the ones who have these long-lasting relationships," Andrew Kratter, an ornithologist with the Florida Museum of Natural History told United Press International.
"They live in large social groups with plenty of opportunities to change partners, so you wouldn't necessarily expect this level of partner fidelity," he added.
An article by Leonard Ho, published in the journal Reef Scapes, notes that there are two types of hermaphroditism--the synchronous or simultaneous hermaphrodite, wherein an organism possesses both active male and active female reproductive organs at the same time, and sequential hermaphrodites, wherein an organism possesses both male and female reproductive organs, but only one is active at a given time.
The chalk bass is a simultaneous hermaphrodite. Mary Hart, the lead author of the study, told National Geographic that they have not figured out why the chalk bass changes sex so many times, but hypothesizes that the act may result in a reproductive advantage for the chalk bass.
Since these fish do not self fertilize, the sex switching offers each fish a return on their investment on eggs and cooperative partnership by allowing them to fertilize about as many eggs as they both produce.
The technique is called "egg parceling," which the study defined as "trading sex roles with the same mating partners in repeated spawning bouts".
In addition, the study revealed that chalk bass pays attention to the amount of eggs being exchanged. For example, if one partner lacks eggs, the other will simply match whatever it produces.
Hart and Kratter, who are actually a couple, spent six months studying the chalk bass behavior at the Smithsonian Tropical Research Institute in Panama. They were surprised how devoted chalk bass are to their partners.
"We did not witness any 'break-ups' in our long-term pairs; during each monthly census, all identified pairs were found spawning and courting with their "primary" mating partner until one or both of them disappeared," the study said.
With only at most five percent of animals known to live monogamously, this is a rare find. The study may prove that sexual cooperation exists among fish.
The International Union for Conservation of Nature lists the status of the chalk bass as "least concern. This fish has a depth range of two to 400 meters, but is usually recorded in less than 90 m. They are often found in aggregation on rubble, silty or sandy bottoms around the immediate periphery of reefs.
https://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/25030/20160711/fish-change-sex-20-times-day-strangely-remains-monogamous.htm
legitimately did not notice the bit about such a small proportion of animals being monogamous until pasting the quote here tho
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Tantrika] 1
#26473580 - 02/07/20 09:45 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Monogamy is overrated. But I have not been with anyone else since I've been married. I don't have the energy I did in my 20's and 30's, lol!
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Tantrika] 3
#26473672 - 02/07/20 10:30 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Tantrika said:
Humans and many mammals are good at serial monogamy, a different but specific partner each "mating season"

Although the image of a pair of swans is often used at marriage ceremonies to depict lifelong pair bonding, research has shown swans sometimes cheat and change mates.
The seven-year itch is a real thing. My ex and I broke up at year 8. It's crazy we define the end of a relationship as a failure. This "life-long" idealism has caused so much misery.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26496138 - 02/20/20 09:31 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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tyrannicalrex said: I definitely believe that the average person is predisposed towards monogamy
I don't believe this, in fact I believe the opposite, and it's the media/society that pushes the narrative that family/having kids is the ultimate way to be and monogamy is the ultimate/only way to be. We're mammals and naturally want to have sex with as many partners as possible. Some people can do it some can't. Who gives a flying fuck who or how many people fuck however many people (adults) as long as it's agreed on by both or all people that are fucking? 
IMHO we have evolved to demand monogamy in our partners since that helps ensure your genetic linage but want to be free ourselves (since that also helps ensure the success of genetic lineage). Men can 'sow' their oats and women can get genetic diversity.
It's selfish and hypocritical but evolution doesn't have to be nice.
And all the emotional shit that comes along with stuff is itself evolved. All the reasons people give are made up to support their underlying feelings about stuff.
Slut shaming is another example. People evolved to want their genes to get passed on, someone else being promiscuous jeopardizes that.
How many people genuinely wouldn't want to on occasion casually fuck other people if they could be sure of no downside. If their partner was %100 ok with that but wouldn't do it themselves. And genuinely ok with it, not just saying it or wanting to use it as an excuse to fuck others themselves. Also taking things like STDs/pregnancies out of the picture.
Of course that's not how people work, mostly we don't go around fucking random people because it would hurt our partner and jeopardize our relationships.
I do wonder how society could change in the future when we get %100 effective birth control and cures too all the STDs. Where you could stick a dick in random willing strangers without any negative repercussions. Sex ed in schools would be very different, when I had it they showed us a lot of scare pictures of STDs and talked about the dangers of pregnancy if that was taken out of the picture (and assuming it wasn't a religious 'just say no') then I guess it just leaves the appropriate/inappropriate behavior and emotional baggage stuff. Hell, maybe everyone would start hosting their own orgies in stead of parties. But society would also need changes to attitudes like 'slut shaming' although we are starting to see some of that happening with social justice stuff.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: EbilPhish]
#26496560 - 02/21/20 07:48 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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And all the emotional shit that comes along with stuff is itself evolved. All the reasons people give are made up to support their underlying feelings about stuff.
Slut shaming is another example. People evolved to want their genes to get passed on, someone else being promiscuous jeopardizes that.
Not really, only the strong used to survive. Now with the medical technology we have more people are living that might not have years ago, not too long ago actually. The gene pool needs some chlorine, lol! Trisomy 21 test was invented for a reason, but there is guilt about "killing babies" etc...
I think random sex with whomever one wants is taboo due to people who didn't want to do that, so they created a book and made it a guilty thing. It's in our DNA as a mammal to procreate or to get with the same sex, we're born with these things, IMHE anyway.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26496575 - 02/21/20 08:00 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah people try to say homosexual attraction serves no evolutionary purpose but I think it helped with group cohesion. Still the case with bonobos.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: psi] 1
#26496629 - 02/21/20 08:39 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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There are over 100 species that do it, it's part of the circle of life etc...it's always been here, and will always be here.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: tyrannicalrex] 1
#26497709 - 02/21/20 08:51 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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We have so many weird hang ups and taboos in the modern world for a supposedly secular society in the west. Hmm I wonder why..
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Cosmic_Flame]
#26497713 - 02/21/20 08:52 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Shame is what makes it feel good jeez
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: cannabinated]
#26497739 - 02/21/20 09:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I mean it does seem like the people who get the most creative about sex will often have had some kind of repressive upbringing.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Asante]
#26497794 - 02/21/20 10:10 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Did anyone mention Mut shaming? It's like Slut shaming, but for males.
I know someone a few posts in hinted at it.
THe word in general "shame" is a major negative connotation.
And during the act of pleasurable sex, there is no negative thing.
So the entire thing must mean like people who are forced into sex, and don't love the sex. This the shame they feel, like a person who is raped.
A woman or man who has sex openly and freely should and most do not feel shame.
Slut Shaming is spreading light on the dark underworld of sex traffic and people being raped .
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Fiery]
#26497985 - 02/22/20 05:34 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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So basically it also means that mut shaming is aswell spreading light on the dark underworld of sex traffic and people being raped.
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