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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: koods]
#26438124 - 01/17/20 09:17 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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feldman114 said: Question is, who do you find more attractive. Not who you go for.
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Newbie said: I don't really like either. I like a woman who can carry a conversation and shows genuine interest in me.
What if 2 women meet this requirement equally well, but one acts slutty while the other acts innocent. Who would you be more attracted to?
Why can’t sluts be interesting and hold a conversation?
I guess I just hear the word slut and it automatically puts a negative connotation on a woman who enjoys a lot of sex. Kind of like how some women say men only want sex, which makes us look negative. I don't consider very sexually active women sluts, though. So I guess I'm guilty of letting that word sway my judgement.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: living_failure] 2
#26438132 - 01/17/20 09:20 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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living_failure said: I grew up being told that males are sexually depraved like animals and that any sexual behaviour and promiscuity is because male inherit animalhood and vice instincts.
I was taught that woman find repulsive when a male tries to initiate sex. And i was also taught that any sexual desire or lustful act made by a male is shameful and almost criminal because of the implication of the woman being innocent and pure.
One of the teachers were very explicit in the part that all wars and crimes were done by males and that it was because of our dangling parts making us animal like and brutes and because we were intellectually inferior and unable to control our urges.
I remember one of our teachers, the one who taught religion who pretty much told us that as a male if you are unable to control your urges and end up masturbating you could not enter heaven and that since God now despise everybody should despise you too.
I was 9 the first time i tried to cut my genitals, i had an erection one morning that i could not get down and i freaked out.
Good times.
I'm so very sorry this happened to you.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: 1234go]
#26438138 - 01/17/20 09:21 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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I’m like 100% sure that dude went to a catholic school
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: koods] 1
#26438143 - 01/17/20 09:23 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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There’s no way someone who got hard at age 9 is going to get into heaven, though
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: koods]
#26438154 - 01/17/20 09:27 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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Right? what a sinner!! I just can’t imagine Jesus forgiving him
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Well, had he gone to his pastor for a special catholic boner blessing, he might have made it.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: feldman114]
#26438203 - 01/17/20 09:46 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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Historically there were societies and cultures that worshipped their prostitutes. It was seen as a bit of a honour for a girl to be pretty enough to be one, it's quite the life of luxury in times where survival was a core part of the human experience. With that in mind I think, despite there being a lot of hyper-religious influences in Western culture in the past, I always saw the idea of slut shaming to be more about who the person is. It's a moral standard, or an animalistic one. There's going to be pretty obvious distinctions in how we judge our peers if say, one were to carry herself in a more "ladylike" fashion, versus someone who's just nasty and overt. Not to say women would be my focus here, men get treated as sluts way more frivolously than women. It's a baked in part of our culture. "We can't control this." Whatever.. such an excuse. All that being said there are probably better ways to judge someone based on their character than how promiscuous they are, if someone felt the need to do so.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: nooneman]
#26438271 - 01/17/20 10:22 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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chibiabos said: I'm pretty ashamed that I'm not a slut. I feel like being a slut might make me a better person. 
Only according to people who want to fuck you
I disagree. I think more highly of all women who are sluts, not just the ones I want to fuck.
Again, I think we should actively celebrate all sluts and sluttiness as much as possible because sluts are awesome. There is literally zero downside, and it's silly and stupid to slut shame people in general, and it's highly counter productive and bad for our society, and just plain silly. Why would sluts conceivably be a bad thing? It's just plain illogical. Sluts are clearly an awesome thing in our society that should be celebrated, not shamed.
It's bad for everyone involved if you slut shame, and good for everyone involved if you slut celebrate.
I agree, sluts are awesome until you find out your GF or wife is behaving like one.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: qman]
#26438276 - 01/17/20 10:24 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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chibiabos said: I'm pretty ashamed that I'm not a slut. I feel like being a slut might make me a better person. 
Only according to people who want to fuck you
I disagree. I think more highly of all women who are sluts, not just the ones I want to fuck.
Again, I think we should actively celebrate all sluts and sluttiness as much as possible because sluts are awesome. There is literally zero downside, and it's silly and stupid to slut shame people in general, and it's highly counter productive and bad for our society, and just plain silly. Why would sluts conceivably be a bad thing? It's just plain illogical. Sluts are clearly an awesome thing in our society that should be celebrated, not shamed.
It's bad for everyone involved if you slut shame, and good for everyone involved if you slut celebrate.
I agree, sluts are awesome until you find out your GF or wife is behaving like one.
At least in that scenario, there isn't really a double standard in society that celebrates men cheating on their wives
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: qman]
#26438278 - 01/17/20 10:25 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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Yeah that mindset really only came about due to agriculture and land ownership. Men wanted virgin wives who were monogamous just so they could impregnate them until they had a son the men could leave their assets to when they kicked the bucket. It is an ideal built upon greed and nothing else.
That is the most feminist thing I have ever heard. Men want loyal women because of greed. Wow must really suck navigating the world with that much misandry
Tantrika touched on this point pretty well. Early tribal people likely were not monogamous and everybody raised everybody's offspring.
If monogamy is your preference that's fine but it is a preference no more or less valid than polyamory or other forms of non-monogamy, provided communication is present and abuse is not taking place. (Just like in a monogamous relationship! Wow!).
Additionally, I navigate the world just fine and dandy. Better than you must be with all these unloyal slutty women around.
Actually it is hard to navigate the world with the disloyalty of human kind. If you really think early humanity were essentially a giant polyamorous orgy, well idk what to tell you on that. I guess we are just gonna have to agree to disagree. The unbelievable frequency of domestic violence make a that a pretty unlikely scenario
I can agree to disagree, although I am not sure what domestic violence has to do with your point. While I will certainly agree with you that there is a lot of it, it is often taught, trickling down through generations.
Abuse isn't so much nature as it is nurture. A man wanting complete and total control over his spouse is not bioligy, it is bigotry.
A lot of women will refer to their abusive spouses as "jealous." Jealousy stems from insecurity, which again is not biology, it is social conditioning.
It's a combination of BOTH biology and sometimes social conditioning. Jealously isn't necessarily abuse, but it can sometimes lead to abusive behavior.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: qman]
#26438308 - 01/17/20 10:41 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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One of them was cool
She had a little dog
she asked if it was ok to get us pizza and chicken wings
it was for the dog
So I said alright
When they delivered the pizza and stuff to the room
she was sucking my dick for a good while
She jumped up , got dressed really fast
Apologized to me , I thought it was pretty cool
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The dog was sucking your dick ? They don't have lips
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There are a lot of people who don't understand what undermining the nuclear family means for society at large and how we function as individuals within that society, myself included. I don't think it's healthy, and I'm not dogmatically religious. I believe people should be sluts for each other in committed relationships, not sluts for everyone.
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larry.fisherman said: Historically there were societies and cultures that worshipped their prostitutes. It was seen as a bit of a honour for a girl to be pretty enough to be one, it's quite the life of luxury in times where survival was a core part of the human experience. With that in mind I think, despite there being a lot of hyper-religious influences in Western culture in the past, I always saw the idea of slut shaming to be more about who the person is. It's a moral standard, or an animalistic one. There's going to be pretty obvious distinctions in how we judge our peers if say, one were to carry herself in a more "ladylike" fashion, versus someone who's just nasty and overt. Not to say women would be my focus here, men get treated as sluts way more frivolously than women. It's a baked in part of our culture. "We can't control this." Whatever.. such an excuse. All that being said there are probably better ways to judge someone based on their character than how promiscuous they are, if someone felt the need to do so.
Being promiscuous for the average person with normal expressions of loyalty, emotion and jealousy is more-or-less an expression of neglect towards the meaning behind the act, which in my own view, tells me that a promiscuous person is more materialistic and value-based than honor based, which says a lot about an individuals character. We aren't bonobos despite our DNA genotype similarities. Our societal phenotype is expressed entirely differently, and that's obvious.
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Roflspammer]
#26438345 - 01/17/20 11:07 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Roflspammer] 1
#26438360 - 01/17/20 11:17 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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You don't think someone can be of character and still enjoy the company of many people? That's a little too black and white for me. Some people can't find love. Some people don't want it. Some people have the luxury of being wanted by the many. I don't completely disagree, a little shame and self control is good for a person. But to cast such a generalization requires a measure of reflection - how do we get here? Or there? I can imagine scenarios where promiscuity can make one a better person. If you can't you're probably not trying hard enough
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What are people’s opinions on prude shaming?
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: koods]
#26438401 - 01/17/20 11:41 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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It’s whack bro
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As someone who works in the mental health field at a professional level, I've come to notice that most people are looking for a sense of belonging and community; family as you will. Whenever that happens for you, young age or an old age, the only way to make that sustainable is through loyalty, integrity, and trust. Some people function best in polyamorous relationships, I don't doubt that, and I'm arguing that they are the minority. The issue now is that the mainstream is pushing that this casual model is something for everyone, which is not the case as you can tell for speaking to anyone about a relationship that they actually care about. There's a whole slew of mental health facilities and treatment programs, and resources just to rehabilitate damage that has occurred from relationships that involve infidelity. Our society promotes infidelity, and the fact that there's a discussion that even argues that it's a good idea highlights the error in thinking.
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