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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Tantrika]
    #26436814 - 01/16/20 01:05 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

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Only girls are slut shamers





:whathesaid:

And females respect and honor male studs (sluts).

There's obvious double standards due to biology.




existence and proliferation of incel culture challenges this idea more and more tho

bunch of guys who are highly critical of female promiscuity because they consider themselves to be searching for someone faithful

not sure if the "Chad" label would be considered derogatory or not tho, so there may still be double standard




Yep, women can get pregnant and men can't.  That's why males don't want slutty female partners if possible and other females use slut shaming to create distrust for their own advantage.


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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: bloodsheen] * 3
    #26436825 - 01/16/20 01:10 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

If you are single then do whatever. Its people who are not faithful to their partner that I have an issue with.


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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: bloodsheen] * 1
    #26436826 - 01/16/20 01:11 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

In my experience, girls who slut shame do so out of jealousy, and men who slut shame do so because they are using it as justification to be abusive. Historically, law enforcement has not cared about prostitutes being raped because you apparently can't rape someone who fucks for money. (Bullshit.) It's the same sort of attitude I have seen from men who slut shame women. A slut can't be raped and if she was raped or beaten she had it coming to her because she was a slut anyways. I've actually seen that mentality from women too.


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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: qman] * 1
    #26436834 - 01/16/20 01:14 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

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Tantrika said:
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qman said:
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cannabinated said:
Only girls are slut shamers





:whathesaid:

And females respect and honor male studs (sluts).

There's obvious double standards due to biology.




existence and proliferation of incel culture challenges this idea more and more tho

bunch of guys who are highly critical of female promiscuity because they consider themselves to be searching for someone faithful

not sure if the "Chad" label would be considered derogatory or not tho, so there may still be double standard




Yep, women can get pregnant and men can't.  That's why males don't want slutty female partners if possible and other females use slut shaming to create distrust for their own advantage.




Yeah that mindset really only came about due to agriculture and land ownership. Men wanted virgin wives who were monogamous just so they could impregnate them until they had a son the men could leave their assets to when they kicked the bucket. It is an ideal built upon greed and nothing else.


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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Patchouli_Savage]
    #26436843 - 01/16/20 01:20 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

The double standard is real. Women are sluts while men are studs, for the same exact behavior.
No one should be slut shamed...except you Stephanie, you skanky ho:crankey:. You know what you did:unwanted:

Jk...jealous men call attractive women sluts.


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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Patchouli_Savage] * 1
    #26436851 - 01/16/20 01:28 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

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Yeah that mindset really only came about due to agriculture and land ownership. Men wanted virgin wives who were monogamous just so they could impregnate them until they had a son the men could leave their assets to when they kicked the bucket. It is an ideal built upon greed and nothing else.



That is the most feminist thing I have ever heard. Men want loyal women because of greed. Wow must really suck navigating the world with that much misandry


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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Patchouli_Savage]
    #26436862 - 01/16/20 01:40 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

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qman said:
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Tantrika said:
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qman said:
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cannabinated said:
Only girls are slut shamers





:whathesaid:

And females respect and honor male studs (sluts).

There's obvious double standards due to biology.




existence and proliferation of incel culture challenges this idea more and more tho

bunch of guys who are highly critical of female promiscuity because they consider themselves to be searching for someone faithful

not sure if the "Chad" label would be considered derogatory or not tho, so there may still be double standard




Yep, women can get pregnant and men can't.  That's why males don't want slutty female partners if possible and other females use slut shaming to create distrust for their own advantage.




Yeah that mindset really only came about due to agriculture and land ownership. Men wanted virgin wives who were monogamous just so they could impregnate them until they had a son the men could leave their assets to when they kicked the bucket. It is an ideal built upon greed and nothing else.




No, that biological instinct goes back millions of years. Males didn't want to take care of another males offspring, they wanted to pass on their own genes.

If you fucking a women who is already one month pregnant from another male, you could end up supporting that offspring falsely believing it's your own, that's just one of the reasons why male jealousy and control over females still exist in males today.


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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: qman] * 1
    #26436866 - 01/16/20 01:42 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

That’s actually a good point. I just read something in the news about the rising popularity of the hymenplasty. Women are paying upwards of $20,000 to trick men into believing they’re virgins.


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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: feldman114] * 1
    #26436867 - 01/16/20 01:43 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)



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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: qman]
    #26436870 - 01/16/20 01:47 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

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No, that biological instinct goes back millions of years. Males didn't want to take care of another males offspring, they wanted to pass on their own genes.

If you fucking a women who is already one month pregnant from another male, you could end up supporting that offspring falsely believing it's your own, that's just one of the reasons why male jealousy and control over females still exist in males today.




You are giving the human race too much credit with this
there is time in recorded history where people believed pouring blood on the dead could bring them back to life
and did not understand why women menstruated

it is unlikely that tribal humans made the connection that a particular individual sex act was resulting in a child 9 months later
and probably informs the long existence of goddess worship and matrilineal traditions that show up in prehistory


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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: feldman114]
    #26436873 - 01/16/20 01:50 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

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That’s actually a good point. I just read something in the news about the rising popularity of the hymenplasty. Women are paying upwards of $20,000 to trick men into believing they’re virgins.




the price range soundes appropriate
peasant farmers didn't get to pick and choose their partners the way the ruling class did
and when you are marrying off a daughter for political purposes, she better meet certain standards

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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Tantrika]
    #26436877 - 01/16/20 01:53 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

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No, that biological instinct goes back millions of years. Males didn't want to take care of another males offspring, they wanted to pass on their own genes.

If you fucking a women who is already one month pregnant from another male, you could end up supporting that offspring falsely believing it's your own, that's just one of the reasons why male jealousy and control over females still exist in males today.




You are giving the human race too much credit with this
there is time in recorded history where people believed pouring blood on the dead could bring them back to life
and did not understand why women menstruated

it is unlikely that tribal humans made the connection that a particular individual sex act was resulting in a child 9 months later
and probably informs the long existence of goddess worship and matrilineal traditions that show up in prehistory




That's why the male jealousy is an instinct instead of an intellectual process. Males don't like other males around their female, evolution didn't wait until they figured out cellular biology. This isn't even isolated to humans, it's in many other mammals.

So males didn't want another males penis in their female partner, this is basic commonsense. You don't need to be a geneticist to realize that strong jealously.


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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: qman]
    #26436886 - 01/16/20 02:03 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

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qman said:
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Tantrika said:
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qman said:
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No, that biological instinct goes back millions of years. Males didn't want to take care of another males offspring, they wanted to pass on their own genes.

If you fucking a women who is already one month pregnant from another male, you could end up supporting that offspring falsely believing it's your own, that's just one of the reasons why male jealousy and control over females still exist in males today.




You are giving the human race too much credit with this
there is time in recorded history where people believed pouring blood on the dead could bring them back to life
and did not understand why women menstruated

it is unlikely that tribal humans made the connection that a particular individual sex act was resulting in a child 9 months later
and probably informs the long existence of goddess worship and matrilineal traditions that show up in prehistory




That's why the male jealousy is an instinct instead of an intellectual process. Males don't like other males around their female, evolution didn't wait until they figured out cellular biology. This isn't even isolated to humans, it's in many other mammals.

So males didn't want another males penis in their female partner, this is basic commonsense. You don't need to be a geneticist to realize that strong jealously.




Ehhhhh,
preservation of relationship is more characteristic of pair-bonding bird species

in terms of mammalian relatives of humans, Chimpanzees and Bonobos are promiscuous species
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Bonobos, a close cousin of the more widely known chimpanzee, are willing to do just about anything in the sexual realm if it helps them climb the social ladder. "And, boy, do they like sex," says Jennifer Welsh at LiveScience. Here, a guide to these "promiscuous primates":

Bonobos have a lot of sex?
They sure do. Think of the bonobo as the "lovemaking cousin of the warrior chimp," says Welsh. The animals engage in sexual activity with "virtually all partner combinations in a variety of positions." For them, sexual activity alleviates conflict, demonstrates affection, reduces stress, and — as demonstrated in a new study — helps the primates communicate social status.

How do they use sex to climb the social ladder?
A new study published in the journal Scientific Reports observed primates in three enclosures at the Lola Ya Bonobo Sanctuary in the Congo. Researchers found that low-ranking females made distinctive sounds — called "copulation calls" — during sex with high-ranking females in order to brag to other top females around them. "Using vocalizations, females only advertise sexual contacts with important group members," says study author Dr. Zanna Clay. "It's all about climbing up the social ladder for female bonobos."

Do all bonobos brag about sex?
No. A high-ranking bonobo typically doesn't brag when having sex with an inferior female — it's only the low-ranking females who call out. And if a group's "alpha" female is within earshot, the inferior female is far more likely to kiss and tell. "They are very aware of the alpha female, who is the most relevant group member," Clay says. "When she's around, they are much more likely to advertise these sexual friendships."

Why are bonobos so concerned with social climbing?
Females leave their original groups as juveniles and join new groups upon adulthood. If a female bonobo can climb to the top of her new social circle by proving her cred with other females, it gives her a much better chance of scoring with the desirable male of her choosing, researchers say.



https://theweek.com/articles/477608/why-female-bonobos-are-such-promiscuous-primates

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Cross-cultural studies indicate that women's sexual attractiveness generally peaks before motherhood and declines with age [1]. Cues of female youth are thought to be attractive because humans maintain long-term pair bonds, making reproductive value (i.e. future reproductive potential) particularly important to males 2, 3. Menopause is believed to exaggerate this preference for youth by limiting women's future fertility 1, 4. This theory predicts that in species lacking long-term pair bonds and menopause, males should not exhibit a preference for young mates. We tested this prediction by studying male preferences in our closest living relative, the chimpanzee (Pan troglodytes). We show that despite their promiscuous mating system, chimpanzee males, like humans, prefer some females over others. However, in contrast to humans, chimpanzee males prefer older, not younger, females. These data robustly discriminate patterns of male mate choice between humans and chimpanzees. Given that the human lineage evolved from a chimpanzee-like ancestor, they indicate that male preference for youth is a derived human feature, likely adapted from a tendency to form unusually long term mating bonds.



https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982206022676

your expressions of strong jealousy would suggest a stronger lining up with later land-ownership and seperation by family units
rather than early tribal communal living where people partied and fucked around the fire:lol:


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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Tantrika]
    #26436913 - 01/16/20 02:24 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

Even though I've never had the privilege to experience a relationship

I feel no jealousy for everyone who has or had one, many

Honestly just wish everyone well

But I'm mostly just looking to bang for free , I've found myself lasting to long so that's good

Finding this is probably my biggest struggle


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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Asante]
    #26436920 - 01/16/20 02:34 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

Sluts should be celebrated, not shamed. They should be considered better than women who are not sluts.


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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: nooneman]
    #26436924 - 01/16/20 02:37 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

A poll for men:
What kind of women are more attractive?
You may choose only one


Votes accepted from (01/16/20 11:37 AM) to (No end specified)
You must vote before you can view the results of this poll



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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: feldman114]
    #26436932 - 01/16/20 02:43 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

I don't really like either.  I like a woman who can carry a conversation and shows genuine interest in me.


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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Newbie]
    #26436938 - 01/16/20 02:46 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

Well preference is different for relationships but at a party are you going home with the shy girl in the corner or the girl who just walks up and sits in your lap and starts hitting on you... Cmon


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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: Tantrika]
    #26436941 - 01/16/20 02:47 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

For sake of posterity tho, examples of mammals opting not to care for the young of others

male lions kill rival lions cubs to induce fertility in females more quickly, which appears a common reproductive tactic:
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"Before the 1970s, any type of infanticide in animals was considered pathological," says Craig Stanford, a primatologist at the University of Southern California in Los Angeles. "Now, certain scenarios are recognized as part of an animal's reproductive strategy."

Male lions are one of the most cited examples of this type of infanticide. Typically, a pride of lions includes one or two adult males who father the cubs. If other males successfully oust these fathers, the newcomers almost immediately kill any young cubs, particularly those the female lions are nursing—despite every effort on the mothers' part to stop the slaughter. Then the females quickly become fertile again and mate with the very males who killed their cubs.



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Male bonobos are one of the few great apes who have not been seen killing infants. This is probably because female bonobos are the dominant members of their societies, making it risky for the males to attack any youngsters. Also, bonobos happily mate with everyone in their community. Thus, males aren't readily able to identify which kids are theirs.

A common counter-reproductive strategy of females in many animal societies is to confuse males about which (if any) kids they've fathered. It doesn't always work.

Male bottlenose dolphins, for instance, remember which females they've mated with. When a male dolphin encounters a strange female with a young calf, he'll do his best to separate the pair and will then severely injure or kill the youngster by bashing it and heaving it through the air.

If the infant dies, the mother will become fertile in a few months—giving the killer male a chance to father her next calf. If the infant lives, the mother won't be receptive for another three to four years—a long time from a male's standpoint. In the game of life, it doesn't pay to wait for her to rear her kid, especially if you know it's not yours. Better to get rid of it.




tho strange behaviour has also been reported -- or maybe the male Chimp was just a redneck looking to get with his sister
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The zookeepers had kept Gracie away from the rest of the troop for three months after she gave birth, giving her time to bond peacefully with her infant.

All seemed to be going well, and the keepers decided to slowly reintroduce the pair to their community. The other chimpanzees welcomed back the pair, and peered with curiosity at the new infant—the first baby chimp born at the zoo in 13 years.

But one day, without warning, Gracie's brother snatched the infant from her arms and dashed around the enclosure slamming her against the ground and walls. Despite Gracie's cries and protests, he wouldn't give back the now-dead baby, and it wasn't possible for the keepers to intervene.

"He used the baby for a big display, to show off," Stanford says. "It's impossible to explain why.

"It was very odd because the male was the mother's brother; the baby was his niece," Stanford adds. "It's not the usual scenario that happens in the wild, so it's difficult to explain. But as far as I can tell, it did not involve any mismanagement by the zoo. It wasn't caused by the chimpanzees being in captivity."

According to the rules of reproductive success, it would have made the most sense for Gracie's brother to protect his niece because they were related. If his niece grew up and had babies of her own, they would also carry some of his genetic legacy. His reproductive success would be enhanced.



https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/3/140328-sloth-bear-zoo-infanticide-chimps-bonobos-animals/

and a particularly interesting case of a male tiger taking up care for (presumed to be his) orphaned cubs
instead of just eating them as would be typical
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Forest officials in northern India say a male tiger appears to be caring for two orphaned cubs in an extremely rare display of paternal feeling.

The cubs lost their mother in February in the Ranthambore tiger reserve. Officials there say they believe the male tiger, named T25, is their father.

Wildlife experts say cubs are usually raised by their mothers and male tigers often kill cubs they come across.

Officials believe there is no recorded evidence of males behaving like this.

Photographs taken by hidden cameras in the forest reserve in India's northern Rajasthan state have documented the tiger's behaviour. The most recent images show the male tiger walking just a metre behind one of the cubs, Ranthambore field director Rajesh Gupta told the BBC.

The cubs, who are believed to be about eight months old now, were first seen on 29 January with their mother T5, a forest official in Ranthambore told the BBC.

He said after the tigress died on 9 February, the cubs were being reared in the wild by forest department staff.

The cubs are too young to make a kill on their own and are being provided with bait by forest staff.

"During my visit to the park on Monday 30 May, I was standing on the top of a cliff and I saw one of the cubs down below eating the kill," Mr Gupta says.

"It is seen in good health," he said. It appears as if the male tiger is allowing the cubs to eat their kill and not taking it for himself."



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-south-asia-13598386

Nature is pretty wild
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Re: How do you feel about slut shaming? [Re: lighthouse09]
    #26436944 - 01/16/20 02:49 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

I would probably approach the shy one and try to strike up a conversation.  They're both at a party so they're there to have fun and mingle. 

I guess it depends on if I'm looking for a one night stand or a relationship, to be honest.  Right now I'm kind open for a relationship so I'm picking the shy one.


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