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If I eat a thick Mycelium off Agar will I trip?
#26435797 - 01/15/20 10:24 PM (4 years, 14 days ago) |
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I thought the question served well as the headline as I have in fact decided I am addicted to psilocin and what it hails from for the present moment.
Edit: ten seconds in and I'm thinking of going guinea
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Re: If I eat a thick Mycelium off Agar will I trip? [Re: UnagiShark]
#26435902 - 01/16/20 12:28 AM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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You would need to eat so much and you'd probably be sick by the time you ate enough to trip ha
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Re: If I eat a thick Mycelium off Agar will I trip? [Re: Kmacmo]
#26436431 - 01/16/20 09:27 AM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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Kmacmo said: You would need to eat so much and you'd probably be sick by the time you ate enough to trip ha
This. Don't do it.
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Re: If I eat a thick Mycelium off Agar will I trip? [Re: Niffla]
#26436454 - 01/16/20 09:40 AM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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Whaaat? Addicted to shrooms? Is that a thing?
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Re: If I eat a thick Mycelium off Agar will I trip? [Re: UnagiShark]
#26436472 - 01/16/20 09:53 AM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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Aydan said: I thought the question served well as the headline as I have in fact decided I am addicted to psilocin and what it hails from for the present moment.
Edit: ten seconds in and I'm thinking of going guinea
Could you explain to the forum,,exactly why and how you think you are addicted to a non-addictive substance? Psychologically? I’d suggest you need to sort that out ASAP before you “lose your marbles”.
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Re: If I eat a thick Mycelium off Agar will I trip? [Re: feldman114]
#26436484 - 01/16/20 09:58 AM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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feldman114 said: Whaaat? Addicted to shrooms? Is that a thing?
Watched a brand new Dennis McKenna interview last night on London Real where Dennis explained exactly why mushrooms are non-addictive. He went further when Brian Rose asked him; “when we travelled down to Costa Rica, why did we take ayahuasca, and not cocaine, heroine, mdma, cannabis” etc. Dennis explained that with mushrooms / psychedlics, contrary to other drugs where you have an up followed by a down, with psychedelics you get the pain before and during a trip; the “up” comes after the drug has worn off.
Fascinating stuff. Go check it out: London Real; Dennis McKenna
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Re: If I eat a thick Mycelium off Agar will I trip? [Re: DJ Ed]
#26436610 - 01/16/20 11:10 AM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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I figured out they’re not addictive on the morning after my first trip. I woke up, looked at my leftover ~1/4oz of boomers, and realized that I wouldn’t WANT to do some more for at least a few days. It was the last thing I wanted🤷🏻♂️. Most times the day after is me cleaning, getting my shit together and making lists of things I need to focus on.
I also dove pretty deep into amphetamine use, and holy fuck...oh the shit I’d do for an Addy on the morning after a binge..
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Re: If I eat a thick Mycelium off Agar will I trip? [Re: feldman114]
#26436655 - 01/16/20 11:38 AM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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feldman114 said: I figured out they’re not addictive on the morning after my first trip. I woke up, looked at my leftover ~1/4oz of boomers, and realized that I wouldn’t WANT to do some more for at least a few days. It was the last thing I wanted♂️. Most times the day after is me cleaning, getting my shit together and making lists of things I need to focus on.
I also dove pretty deep into amphetamine use, and holy fuck...oh the shit I’d do for an Addy on the morning after a binge..
I’ve never done speed or base heavily, but I have dabbled. And yeah the next day is awful. I remember a few years ago at a festival on the Isle of Wight, we’d done base the Friday night; I was up all night while my wife and mate slept most of it. Still lying there wide awake at 9am on Saturday morning I started drinking cider to alleviate the insomnia and boredom. The only way I ended it was taking some more at about 3pm before going to watch Terry Hall (The Specials) do a DJ set, which was pretty awesome. Sunday was a write off.
Oh a funny story about Terry Hall. We were queuing at a pizza stall to get some food before going down to watch Terry perform with The Dub Pistols. When I noticed in front of us in the queue was Terry! He was absolutely fucked out of his mind. 15 mins or so later when he was up on stage, he was flawless! Respect.....
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Re: If I eat a thick Mycelium off Agar will I trip? [Re: DJ Ed]
#26436694 - 01/16/20 11:54 AM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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DJ Ed said: He was absolutely fucked out of his mind. 15 mins or so later when he was up on stage, he was flawless! Respect.....
We used to say...
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Re: If I eat a thick Mycelium off Agar will I trip? [Re: DJ Ed]
#26436859 - 01/16/20 01:32 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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feldman114 said: I figured out they’re not addictive on the morning after my first trip. I woke up, looked at my leftover ~1/4oz of boomers, and realized that I wouldn’t WANT to do some more for at least a few days. It was the last thing I wanted🤷🏻♂️.
This is exactly how I feel after drinking heavily but that doesn't mean alcohol isn't actually a pretty addictive substance
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feldman114 said: Whaaat? Addicted to shrooms? Is that a thing?
Watched a brand new Dennis McKenna interview last night on London Real where Dennis explained exactly why mushrooms are non-addictive. He went further when Brian Rose asked him; “when we travelled down to Costa Rica, why did we take ayahuasca, and not cocaine, heroine, mdma, cannabis” etc. Dennis explained that with mushrooms / psychedlics, contrary to other drugs where you have an up followed by a down, with psychedelics you get the pain before and during a trip; the “up” comes after the drug has worn off.
Fascinating stuff. Go check it out: London Real; Dennis McKenna
Could you give a TLDR? I like to scientifically understand why things are the way they are – why is it impossible that the brain becomes dependent on pyschedelics but not other things that mimic serotonin?
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Re: If I eat a thick Mycelium off Agar will I trip? [Re: Korean Jesus]
#26436975 - 01/16/20 03:10 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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What do you mean by TLDR bro and I’ll try?
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Re: If I eat a thick Mycelium off Agar will I trip? [Re: DJ Ed]
#26437024 - 01/16/20 03:34 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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TLDR means too long; didn't read
They're often put after long posts for people to get a summary of what was said and be able to participate without actually reading the post. In this context I'm just asking for a quick summary
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#26437039 - 01/16/20 03:43 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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Korean Jesus said: TLDR means too long; didn't read
They're often put after long posts for people to get a summary of what was said and be able to participate without actually reading the post. In this context I'm just asking for a quick summary 
F@@@ you’ve put me on the spot dude. I watched it last night, and well I don’t think I’d do it justice! Dennis is not as eloquent as his dearly departed brother, Terence, so yes it was heavy going at times. But he’s trying to get the message out, bless him. The world needs to change its consciousness now or our children might not have much of a world to grow up in. His thesis about psychedelics not being addictive was effectively based on what I described, I.e. they don’t work like “normal” “recreational” “drugs”. He discussed serotonin, dopamine, and other brain chemicals. On drugs he basically said we as humans are made of drugs. There aren’t bad drugs; they are molecules that have effects. What is bad is the context and the intention. Psychedelics work differently to that, and on different receptors. And the trips are so profound, the last thing most are inclined to do is trip again straight away.
I’ll tell you what I’ll do, brother; I’ll watch out for one of those clip videos you get on YouTube, an excerpt from a podcast etc, and when it comes on I’ll post link back here, and also PM ya.
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Re: If I eat a thick Mycelium off Agar will I trip? [Re: Korean Jesus]
#26437041 - 01/16/20 03:44 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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That point about suffering during the trip and experiencing grace or whatever you call it as it finishes is something that, I think, is lost on a lot of people. Or at least the people who get turned off by powerful, 'bad' trips.
For example, I have a lot of friends that end up treating tripping as another commodity like smoking weed together or getting drunk. In my mind, using psychedelics for that is just a waste because of how much more you get when you scare the shit out of yourself using them. Suddenly all of your problems don't seem much like problems anymore. It really is important to make sure that you're getting ideal doses with no tolerance in order to make it a positive experience instead of just messing with your brain repeatedly.
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Re: If I eat a thick Mycelium off Agar will I trip? [Re: jdawg333]
#26437125 - 01/16/20 04:39 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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jdawg333 said: That point about suffering during the trip and experiencing grace or whatever you call it as it finishes is something that, I think, is lost on a lot of people. Or at least the people who get turned off by powerful, 'bad' trips.
For example, I have a lot of friends that end up treating tripping as another commodity like smoking weed together or getting drunk. In my mind, using psychedelics for that is just a waste because of how much more you get when you scare the shit out of yourself using them. Suddenly all of your problems don't seem much like problems anymore. It really is important to make sure that you're getting ideal doses with no tolerance in order to make it a positive experience instead of just messing with your brain repeatedly.
one of my friends and I were talking and she asked when the last time I tripped was, and she was floored that I tripped by myself not too long prior. I feel like it would be weird telling her how many solo trips i've been on, which far surpasses the ammount i've done with friends. they provide and interconnectedness in the right settings, but I'd much rather explore my mind alone for the most part.
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Re: If I eat a thick Mycelium off Agar will I trip? [Re: 330ci]
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I have some excess anxiety, so my mind often jumps to disaster when it's not experienced trippers- that is, people who I know have done some solid doses and thought a lot about it. I think of early times when I was tripping and I could've totally been caught in some horrible, almost traumatizing situations had I not gone in with the goal of just patiently experiencing. While it's usually controllable, people act super strange while tripping and are sometimes unaware of how strange they are acting somehow, and end up doing some really stupid things.
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Re: If I eat a thick Mycelium off Agar will I trip? [Re: jdawg333]
#26437161 - 01/16/20 05:03 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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if you trip enough your bound to have some fucked shit happen while tripping. I had a psychotic episode tripping alone once and the next day I didn't remember anything, didn't have any lasting effects, but I hid from police, freaked the fuck out of alot of people messaging them that I was some conquistador or some shit and was going to take back over the world for Armenia(my heritage) ended up drinking over a half gallon and had multiple people check up on me including the police who I somehow evaded I imagine(Im just going off of some of the messages and apparently the police showed up I don't remember if they did or I was just tripping) That was off of a tab and a half of acid, followed by an exhorbitant ammount of booze and lots of alcohol. shit happens, just have to make sure to take a mental break when that kinda stuff happens.
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Re: If I eat a thick Mycelium off Agar will I trip? [Re: jdawg333]
#26438670 - 01/17/20 02:11 PM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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jdawg333 said: That point about suffering during the trip and experiencing grace or whatever you call it as it finishes is something that, I think, is lost on a lot of people. Or at least the people who get turned off by powerful, 'bad' trips.
Totally agree with this. I was terrified and miserable for the better part of my heroic dose, but I find that that trip had the best long-term impact on me out of any trip I've been on. Euphoric trips are nice but they teach you nothing.
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Re: If I eat a thick Mycelium off Agar will I trip? [Re: Korean Jesus]
#26438680 - 01/17/20 02:20 PM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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I disagree, KJ, in that euphoric trip’s teach you that life is good and life is worth living ✊🏻
Peace and love, brother DJ Ed
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Re: If I eat a thick Mycelium off Agar will I trip? [Re: DJ Ed]
#26438907 - 01/17/20 05:00 PM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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I was kidding. Referent to yearning.. I end up being sort of a romantic idk. I wanted to enjoy Elder Scrolls Oblivion differently in a way that was "more British" for whatever reason which that may have meant.
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Re: If I eat a thick Mycelium off Agar will I trip? [Re: DJ Ed] 1
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DJ Ed said: I disagree, KJ, in that euphoric trip’s teach you that life is good and life is worth living ✊🏻
Peace and love, brother DJ Ed
For me, while the euphoric trips were incredible, my heroic dose really made me realize some things about myself that I didn't realize were bringing me down. I think my general attitude and happiness has improved as a result of what I was forced to see. And even as i was seeing it, and it was very unpleasant, I had a a strong feeling that I had to go through it in order to understand myself in a better way and become a happier person.
Maybe it has to do with the fact that I've never been afflicted by depression or had any reason to believe life isn't worth living.
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Re: If I eat a thick Mycelium off Agar will I trip? [Re: DJ Ed]
#26438949 - 01/17/20 05:21 PM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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feldman114 said: Whaaat? Addicted to shrooms? Is that a thing?
Watched a brand new Dennis McKenna interview last night on London Real where Dennis explained exactly why mushrooms are non-addictive. He went further when Brian Rose asked him; “when we travelled down to Costa Rica, why did we take ayahuasca, and not cocaine, heroine, mdma, cannabis” etc. Dennis explained that with mushrooms / psychedlics, contrary to other drugs where you have an up followed by a down, with psychedelics you get the pain before and during a trip; the “up” comes after the drug has worn off.
Fascinating stuff. Go check it out: London Real; Dennis McKenna
That sounds awesome! I couldn't get your link to work, so here's the same thing on youtube. Skip to around 4:26 to get past the weird "intro".
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Re: If I eat a thick Mycelium off Agar will I trip? [Re: Korean Jesus] 1
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Korean Jesus said: For me, while the euphoric trips were incredible, my heroic dose really made me realize some things about myself that I didn't realize were bringing me down. I think my general attitude and happiness has improved as a result of what I was forced to see. And even as i was seeing it, and it was very unpleasant, I had a a strong feeling that I had to go through it in order to understand myself in a better way and become a happier person.
That's generally how it works.
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Re: If I eat a thick Mycelium off Agar will I trip? [Re: rido]
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Thanks for posting that, rido. I registered with London Real a few years back, in order to get the second part of the videos, but it’s a real sod sometimes trying to watch them from Londonreal.tv! And I’d promised Korean Jesus I’d post a YouTube link as soon as I spotted it. You’ve beat me to it, so thanks; and there you go KJ 👍🏻
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Re: If I eat a thick Mycelium off Agar will I trip? [Re: Korean Jesus]
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Maybe it has to do with the fact that I've never been afflicted by depression or had any reason to believe life isn't worth living.
To each their own 
Hmm that actually sounds plausible, KJ. Yes I’ve suffered depression for years, and am still working hard, now with mushrooms, to change my perspective. I am getting there, but a euphoric trip for me does provide useful lessons. I have benefited from higher doses of mushrooms, but they really take it out of me such that I need an extended break afterwards to integrate the teachings. I find the after glow on lower doses at more frequent intervals, at this moment in my self-treatment, is really beneficial and therapeutic. I accept it may not be treating the causes of my depression, but it is helping with day to day emotional well-being. The hope is that when I do a high dose, once or twice a year, I get valuable lessons that I can work with, as I then return to lower, frequent, “maintenance” doses.
But get this, KJ. If and when I get to a point in my learnings where my depression is effectively cured, I would still take mushrooms; I see nothing wrong with taking mushrooms just to have an interesting evening. For me it’s as useful and fun as reading a book; no difference doing something safe that doesn’t harm yourself or others.
Mush love, DJ Ed
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Re: If I eat a thick Mycelium off Agar will I trip? [Re: DJ Ed]
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If you have bipolar (like me) there's no real cause for the depression that can be remedied - so the fact that tripping resets my cycle to the happy phase is invaluable IME.
But beyond that I just effing enjoy them and all the cool shit that they bring to my life.
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Re: If I eat a thick Mycelium off Agar will I trip? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26441057 - 01/19/20 01:23 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: If you have bipolar (like me) there's no real cause for the depression that can be remedied - so the fact that tripping resets my cycle to the happy phase is invaluable IME.
But beyond that I just effing enjoy them and all the cool shit that they bring to my life. 
For many years, I’ve been convinced I have bipolar, but according to the medical professionals, not; I was diagnosed with clinical depression many years ago when I was seeing a stop smoking councillor at about age 25. Up until that point, I didn’t know I was depressed, it was just normal life to me and I got on with it.
But apart from that, PrimalSoup, you have just described me 👊🏻
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Re: If I eat a thick Mycelium off Agar will I trip? [Re: DJ Ed]
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DJ Ed said: I disagree, KJ, in that euphoric trip’s teach you that life is good and life is worth living ✊🏻
Peace and love, brother DJ Ed
I don't always agree with you but I always respect your opinion. But this right here is some truth. I Battle depression and addiction every day. In my worst moments i get fucked up in the head enough to think about death and having control of when it happens. When I am in the head space where living is scarier than death ill eat some big doses. I once had a 6 hour full body orgasm on a handful of mush I didn't bother putting on the scales. It tonight me exactly what you said. Life is worth living out. You never know when the next full body orgasm is just around the corner
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