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mariapilz


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bacterial infection - let fruit or throw?
#26430664 - 01/13/20 04:02 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have a few lionsmane sacks that unfortunately have bacteria. I heard that a bacterial attack "only" has a negative impact on the yield ... better than nothing ... right?
my situation: there are about 20 sacks of bacteria. But there are other healthy sacks in my room. I want to sell the mushrooms ... are the bacteria also on the mushrooms? Would you throw the sacks away?
 thanks for your opinion
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Re: bacterial infection - let fruit or throw? [Re: mariapilz]
#26430985 - 01/13/20 10:12 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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IIRC lion's mane does a pretty good job at fighting off bacteria. I can't see much in the pics but if it's colonized pretty well and not a total cesspool I'd let 'em try to fruit.
If you get good fruits they're fine to eat, you'd be able to easily tell if they were affected by bacteria.
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Re: bacterial infection - let fruit or throw? [Re: Forrester]
#26433056 - 01/14/20 12:22 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks Forrester. Your opinion makes me positive. Yes, you don't see much ... light mycelium and slightly damp marbled substrate. But they stank to heaven.
In the last ~ 5 - 7 days nothing has happened. Mycelium doesn't grow and it doesn't stink anymore.
I will incubate the bags a little more and hope that the mane will win the fight. Later I give them a chance to fruit.
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Re: bacterial infection - let fruit or throw? [Re: mariapilz]
#26434017 - 01/14/20 09:26 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yikes I didn't know there was a noticeable bad smell. That would concern me a bit. But it went away? How odd!
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Re: bacterial infection - let fruit or throw? [Re: Forrester]
#26434181 - 01/14/20 11:32 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I guess it doesn't stink anymore because the bacteria don't work anymore. The bags are probably full of endospores. Mycelium "eats" bacteria ... also endospores?
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Re: bacterial infection - let fruit or throw? [Re: mariapilz]
#26434526 - 01/15/20 08:44 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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interested to see if it fruits!
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Re: bacterial infection - let fruit or throw? [Re: Forrester]
#26438934 - 01/17/20 05:15 PM (4 years, 30 days ago) |
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When my lions mane bags had a bacterial infection during colonisation the sub went a darker colour and smelt like a sweet compost smell, it also looked wet. I never bothered fruiting them though. If they stink real bad I definitely would not fruit them.
My 2 cents.
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Re: bacterial infection - let fruit or throw? [Re: filyep]
#26441105 - 01/19/20 02:43 AM (4 years, 29 days ago) |
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OK thanks. My sacks smelled strongly of manure. A different bacterial culture than in your sacks, unfortunately with the same result. The risk of contaminating my fruiting room is already very high ... or ... Can these bacteria live / grow with the environmental conditions in my room at all? I will still leave the sacks and watch.
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Re: bacterial infection - let fruit or throw? [Re: mariapilz]
#26508340 - 02/28/20 03:01 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I did it. because I didn't know no more which sacks had bacteries and which had not... they all looked good.
when I let out the air to prepare the sack for fruiting I thought I smelled the odor of bacteria... or not?.. difficult. I handled all like healthy sacks. result: the fruits looked good and were tasty. All bags had fruits. No difference.
The only thing that I recognized after fruiting and bevore I throw them on the compost was a very very sticky yellowish/orange viscous liquid on the bottom of a few bags. around a soup spoon full.. In some bags ~3-5 spoons. .
next time I throw them out bevore fruiting. .. better save than sorry.
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