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Luc1d
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Depression
#26433114 - 01/14/20 01:03 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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How do you deal with it?
Any suggestions for a guy who can’t seem to clear his mind of dark clouds?
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Re: Depression [Re: Luc1d]
#26433115 - 01/14/20 01:05 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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i found a bit of relief when i quit trying to fight it. get good at it, turn it into a skill.
become one with the suck. it's my mantra.
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Re: Depression [Re: Luc1d] 5
#26433126 - 01/14/20 01:08 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Currently in a really bad episode right now, I'm actually on leave from work because of it. Which just makes it worse and makes me feel more anxious. What usually pulls me out of it is doing cardio. The feeling after a workout is just so positive and anxiety and depression just melt away. That and I focus on my cooking and eating right.
I'm experimenting with 5-htp but it doesn't seem to do much. It's really the physical activity that seems to help.
Just stay away from alcohol, it seems to what starts my depression each time, and I ready to abstain altogether. I cannot moderate myself but I'm not tempted to even look at a beer after like a week.
I hope you find help!
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Re: Depression [Re: Newbie]
#26433134 - 01/14/20 01:13 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Newbie said: What usually pulls me out of it is doing cardio.
I can vouch for this. Getting outside, tossing some headphones on and running/jogging/walking in the sun for an hour or whatever would do wonders for me if I was down.
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Re: Depression [Re: Luc1d]
#26433201 - 01/14/20 01:40 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Going on vacation. For me, nothing increases my mood as rapidly and reliably as going on a road trip to somewhere, maybe getting a hotel room or camping, hitting up the beach or hiking or going to a museum or an aquarium, etc. etc. That shit cheers me up like nothing else.
Short of that, playing video games (they have to be something I can get really into though) sometimes works, listening to upbeat fast paced music sometimes.
Honestly though, if I'm in a really bad place, like someone just broke up with me, I down some stimulants and play some video games or work on a hobby with the music cranked. It works somewhat decently as long as the stimulant lasts.
I used to have really, really, really bad depression when I was younger. Like 24/7 mood at a -10 out of 10, that kind of thing. The first thing that really changed things for me was mushrooms. That took it from unbearably bad to handleable. Then somewhere during my use of RC lysergamides and RC tryptamines it went away entirely. I actually feel reasonably cured to a large extent. Most of the time I'm quite happy with my life, as happy as any normal person should be. Maybe even happier.
I know that's not helpful to the questions involved in this subject, but I thought I might just give my own history with the topic in general.
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Re: Depression [Re: Luc1d] 1
#26433840 - 01/14/20 07:32 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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wuts up man talk to me baby
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Niffla



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Quote:
nooneman said:
Honestly though, if I'm in a really bad place, like someone just broke up with me, I down some stimulants and play some video games or work on a hobby with the music cranked. It works somewhat decently as long as the stimulant lasts.
Yeah but doesn't the depression return significantly worse on the stim comedown?
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Re: Depression [Re: Niffla]
#26434113 - 01/14/20 10:24 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've never dealt with a diagnosis but from what I understand being in nature, cardio, and maybe cooking/eating healthy are probably good suggestions.
A yummy and fruity smoothie in the morning is a good kickstart for me....the thing is that if you eat carbs/sugars you just got to move somewhere/do something or it might make you more anxious....
....but I think movement is just GREAT anyways and I tend not to veg out during the day ever and I think that's what's helping me be a pretty happy person mostly. I notice when I lay down all day that only makes me happy when I really needed the rest and otherwise it makes me sad.
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I got standard western medicine help. It's not perfect, like feeling numb makes it hard to care about anything. My hobbies dont seem as fun or engaging anymore. But I was ready to die, the only thing that stopped me was knowing it would ruin my parent's lives. I figured not making them miserable was a good enough reason to keep suffering.
I definitely don't recommend the medication route unless you've tried a lot of things and ruled out a lot of options. I don't know your story but for me, it was the only choice. On the bright side Welbutrin makes me a boss in the sack.
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Embrace the suck.
Depression is honestly when I get the most shit done. I'll eventually recognize my situation and fight harder for change and accomplishment. Looking back, i think most of my greatest work and best times had were in depression pits. Complacency is much worse. Its kind of a limbo stage of not depressed, but not exactly motivated either. You eagerly work and live while just riding the fence of monotony.
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Small-medium doses of mushies normally shake me out of it. I'll be 2 or 3 hours in and be wondering why I put off doing it for so long. Then I can go back to being "normal" again for a month or so. Inevitably it creeps up on me again though, but fortunately I'm not trying to medicate it out with alcohol anymore. Got out of that trap.
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I find resistance training does a lot more to help with my depression than cardio alone.
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For me the cure is to find the root of it by thinking through all the thoughts. I'll explore my mind and keep picking my own brain till I realize what the depression is about and everytime, I realize it's caused by some elusive delusion which is then resolved by rationalizing it away, and then the depression is gone, until some new elusive hard to see delusion about something in my life creeps back in to my head
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Re: Depression [Re: Niffla] 1
#26434454 - 01/15/20 07:34 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Niffla said:
Quote:
nooneman said:
Honestly though, if I'm in a really bad place, like someone just broke up with me, I down some stimulants and play some video games or work on a hobby with the music cranked. It works somewhat decently as long as the stimulant lasts.
Yeah but doesn't the depression return significantly worse on the stim comedown?
Only IF you come down
 You gotta strap in for a 5-day marathon, then pass out for about 36 hours, and you wake up in such a haze, feeling like such utter shit, that you completely forget you’re depressed.
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Depression is what motivates me to do better
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Quote:
nooneman said: Going on vacation. For me, nothing increases my mood as rapidly and reliably as going on a road trip to somewhere, maybe getting a hotel room or camping, hitting up the beach or hiking or going to a museum or an aquarium, etc. etc. That shit cheers me up like nothing else.
Short of that, playing video games (they have to be something I can get really into though) sometimes works, listening to upbeat fast paced music sometimes.
Honestly though, if I'm in a really bad place, like someone just broke up with me, I down some stimulants and play some video games or work on a hobby with the music cranked. It works somewhat decently as long as the stimulant lasts.
I used to have really, really, really bad depression when I was younger. Like 24/7 mood at a -10 out of 10, that kind of thing. The first thing that really changed things for me was mushrooms. That took it from unbearably bad to handleable. Then somewhere during my use of RC lysergamides and RC tryptamines it went away entirely. I actually feel reasonably cured to a large extent. Most of the time I'm quite happy with my life, as happy as any normal person should be. Maybe even happier.
I know that's not helpful to the questions involved in this subject, but I thought I might just give my own history with the topic in general.
Living better by chemistry, right? A lot of people follow this type of therapy further down the rabbit hole. The old saying is that you have to live your way into good thinking, not the opposite. Don't get me wrong, I believe there are some chemical imbalances that can be corrected by certain medications as prescribed by professionals and professional treatment should be sought after an extended time of depression.With that said....
Exercise and meditation are great and don't forget the human capacity to help others even when we are down ourselves. Research is showing more and more that very little does more to help depression than selfless acts of kindness to others or even animal rights or with conservation. I realize this is much easier said than done but it is a tried and true formula for pulling ourselves up. It is almost impossible to feel depression while at the same time we are doing a beneficial act to freely help others in need.
Also, don't discount the time of year and that "this too shall pass". Research also shows that the rate of depression is also closely correlated with the amount daylight during a 24 hr. period and this time of year is the worst. I hate to see anyone struggling and I hope that OP can pull out if it in good time.
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Ah I am the complete opposite of most. If I start to feel depression kicking in I usually feel the need to stop all drugs. Drugs usually cause it for me when I am on a long binge of smoking weed every chance I get. Being numb to the world really drags me down after a while. At first, it helps. You forget what is bothering you and you go on with your day. Eventually I feel it is the cause. For me, I try to stop all drug use and get outside more. Going outside and exploring an area of a forest you have never been to seems to cure it for me for the time being. Get outside, lay a blanket down where no one could ever find you and lay on it and stare into the sky.
Also, a big one. Less screen time. I feel like I get sucked into a vortex of this damn phone quite often. I feel like shit after staring at these pixels for hours on end.
Edited by FSHuntings (01/15/20 01:06 PM)
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Tempalonomous
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Re: Depression [Re: Luc1d]
#26434917 - 01/15/20 01:12 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mr.bluesky from electric orchestra sometimes cheers me up../
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I think it's pretty normal that drugs and too much screen time can drag you down man, most people are like that. I certainly am. Psychedelics can knock me out of a depressive spiral, set my head on a different path, but almost anything else just makes it worse.
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