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Chamber of Commerce Demands More Immigration: ‘U.S. Is Out of People’ [Breitbart]
    #26432736 - 01/14/20 08:17 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Now before you go, "lul, Breitbart! Lul, dude? Like, Breitbart? Lul, I am literally shaking my head at how low we've sunk and how stupid some people are", (as you peruse 1,001 media outlets that all have supported whoever the DNC has nominated for the last 20+ years), I'll have you know that I get my info from a wide range of sources!

Most, I must admit, are complete shit.

But, such is the state of American media where nobody *buys* media anymore.  NYT, WaPo, LA Times, Atlantic, Salon, Variety, New Yorker has some good cultural / metapolitical stuff, etc etc. Back during the 2016 election, BB was one of the only outlets to call a Trump election *possible* and wasn't onboard the 90% Hillary / "Hillary Doesn't Need White Men" camp.


In general, I don't like conflict. (Then, whythefuckaIhere?) And yet, I care about this country (and world.)

Blah blah blah, I won't be in your hair long. Just wanted to drop this off as a peace offering. Both sides *could* be working together to raise the wages of the American citizens who are here legally.

That is all. Have a great rest of your day I'm splitting before I say something (else) I regret.

Chamber of Commerce Demands More Immigration: ‘U.S. Is Out of People’:

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Specifically, Chamber of Commerce President and CEO Tom Donohue said the U.S. needed more legal immigration so that corporations and business secure a never-ending flow of cheaper labor, claiming the country is “out of people.”

    And they’re still looking to work with Trump even on areas where they’re not really in agreement, such as immigration. The Chamber advocates for protecting the “dreamers” from deportation and expanding rates of legal immigration. “The fundamental issue is that the United States of America is out of people,” said Donohue. “We have the lowest unemployment we’ve had in 65 years. We have brought more people back into the workforce and still have the lowest unemployment.” [Emphasis added]




Clue: look past the sensationalist headline EVERY SINGLE TIME....

This one, for the sake of convenience and being able to find it yourself, is titled, "The Daily 202: The U.S. Chamber wants to disentangle its brand from the GOP and hopes to rebuild the center" but, usually, that's just some fkn editor trying to get a jab in. You have to actually read the fucking content before coming to a solid conclusion. jesus. Quit letting Washington Post and MSNBC do your thinking for you. "BIG IDEA" .."THE TAKE AWAY"..."MOST PEOPLE ARE THINKING"....are all clues that they're trying to do your thinking for you.

Anyways, for the sake of bipartisanship here's a WaPo article covering the same thing....with the CoC link contained therein. Ciao!

Here's the two articles, you can guess who is who by the position they take on the same CoC action:

"Chamber of Commerce Demands More Immigration: ‘U.S. Is Out of People’"

The Daily 202: The U.S. Chamber wants to disentangle its brand from the GOP and hopes to rebuild the center


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Re: Chamber of Commerce Demands More Immigration: ‘U.S. Is Out of People’ [Breitbart] [Re: eieio]
    #26432754 - 01/14/20 08:25 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

There's a lobbying group called "The U.S. Chamber of Commerce"?

That's fucked up.


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Re: Chamber of Commerce Demands More Immigration: ‘U.S. Is Out of People’ [Breitbart] [Re: eieio]
    #26432757 - 01/14/20 08:28 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Makes sense , California farmers love immigrant labor . Just can’t get spoiled young people who grow up here to work the fields these days . They would rather sit in offices , sip pumpkin spice lattes and play with their phones all day .
  We should offer a pathway to citizenship for all of the illegals here currently working .


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Re: Chamber of Commerce Demands More Immigration: ‘U.S. Is Out of People’ [Breitbart] [Re: eieio]
    #26432778 - 01/14/20 08:38 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It's funny, about 4 weeks ago after a Federal Reserve meeting the media asked Powell why wages remained weak despite moderate GDP growth and his answer was quite surprising. He stated that globalization and unreliable unemployment statistics were the real reasons why wage growth would remain stagnant in the years ahead and that he couldn't do anything about it.

In other words, there's plenty of labor available on the lower end of labor market and stop asking him about the wage issues anymore because it's structural in nature.


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Re: Chamber of Commerce Demands More Immigration: ‘U.S. Is Out of People’ [Breitbart] [Re: christopera] * 1
    #26432782 - 01/14/20 08:40 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Agree with the pathway to citizenship, for people who have been here years and grew up here. And agree with Cesar Chavez that wages are never going to raise if we keep letting illegals over the border.


Gotta say, I voted for Obama, volunteered for FoodNotBombs for about 5 years, marched at the front of a few large anti-War rallies. I can honestly tell ya'll... it'll be a cold fucking day in Hell before I even considered supporting the Democrats and that's 100% 80-90% on the behavior of many of their supporters. It's that fucking bad. lol, some of ya'll mf'er that fucking smug and repulsive. The same way I shied from Republicans because of their association with old, shitty, greedy, asshole white dudes. The DNC is cancer now. The most vocal axe grinding drum beaters of this site are the very ones that ensure...ensure that nobody will ever change their mind. And, I'll just leave it at that.


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Re: Chamber of Commerce Demands More Immigration: ‘U.S. Is Out of People’ [Breitbart] [Re: eieio]
    #26432905 - 01/14/20 10:03 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Must be hella convenient to be able to complain about everyone and support no one . Libertarian ?


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Re: Chamber of Commerce Demands More Immigration: ‘U.S. Is Out of People’ [Breitbart] [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
    #26433057 - 01/14/20 12:24 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

The idea that both major parties in the US are shit isn't all that controversial around here.  The fact that republicans are so far and away mpre obviously deplorable lends to the illusion that many rational posters in this sub are democrats.  Off hand, i can say with confidence that neither I, TheEcstatic, Fal or shivas.wisdom identify as democrats, for example.


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Re: Chamber of Commerce Demands More Immigration: ‘U.S. Is Out of People’ [Breitbart] [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26433072 - 01/14/20 12:37 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

But you guys are all hoping for a particular  Democrat to win ...
It’s easy isn’t it , when you only have to defend the 1 guy you like , but not the party he’s in ?


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Re: Chamber of Commerce Demands More Immigration: ‘U.S. Is Out of People’ [Breitbart] [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26433087 - 01/14/20 12:47 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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ballsalsa said:
The idea that both major parties in the US are shit isn't all that controversial around here.  The fact that republicans are so far and away mpre obviously deplorable lends to the illusion that many rational posters in this sub are democrats.  Off hand, i can say with confidence that neither I, TheEcstatic, Fal or shivas.wisdom identify as democrats, for example.



I’m not gonna be the one to do it, but you just set all yous guys up for a major buuurn lol


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Re: Chamber of Commerce Demands More Immigration: ‘U.S. Is Out of People’ [Breitbart] [Re: feldman114]
    #26433113 - 01/14/20 01:03 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Because i implied we are rational?


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Re: Chamber of Commerce Demands More Immigration: ‘U.S. Is Out of People’ [Breitbart] [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26433139 - 01/14/20 01:14 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Wait for it...the pun will come🤞🤞🤞


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Re: Chamber of Commerce Demands More Immigration: ‘U.S. Is Out of People’ [Breitbart] [Re: feldman114]
    #26433297 - 01/14/20 02:15 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Eh, the voting public has been pretty well inoculated, there's a solid base that will knee-jerk vote no on any increase in minimum wage. Now, the funny thing about college students...they need a job to pay off those loans, but they aren't too picky. Chances are, they can still pick up a few hours from their side hustle during school, which means offering them a lab tech slot for 2$/hr more than McDs gives you a capable worker.

Oh, and that worker is in debt and needs to make payments.


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Re: Chamber of Commerce Demands More Immigration: ‘U.S. Is Out of People’ [Breitbart] [Re: eieio]
    #26433353 - 01/14/20 02:39 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

eieio said:
Now before you go, "lul, Breitbart! Lul, dude? Like, Breitbart? Lul, I am literally shaking my head at how low we've sunk and how stupid some people are", (as you peruse 1,001 media outlets that all have supported whoever the DNC has nominated for the last 20+ years), I'll have you know that I get my info from a wide range of sources!

Most, I must admit, are complete shit.

But, such is the state of American media where nobody *buys* media anymore.  NYT, WaPo, LA Times, Atlantic, Salon, Variety, New Yorker has some good cultural / metapolitical stuff, etc etc. Back during the 2016 election, BB was one of the only outlets to call a Trump election *possible* and wasn't onboard the 90% Hillary / "Hillary Doesn't Need White Men" camp.


In general, I don't like conflict. (Then, whythefuckaIhere?) And yet, I care about this country (and world.)

Blah blah blah, I won't be in your hair long. Just wanted to drop this off as a peace offering. Both sides *could* be working together to raise the wages of the American citizens who are here legally.

That is all. Have a great rest of your day I'm splitting before I say something (else) I regret.

Chamber of Commerce Demands More Immigration: ‘U.S. Is Out of People’:

Quote:

Specifically, Chamber of Commerce President and CEO Tom Donohue said the U.S. needed more legal immigration so that corporations and business secure a never-ending flow of cheaper labor, claiming the country is “out of people.”

    And they’re still looking to work with Trump even on areas where they’re not really in agreement, such as immigration. The Chamber advocates for protecting the “dreamers” from deportation and expanding rates of legal immigration. “The fundamental issue is that the United States of America is out of people,” said Donohue. “We have the lowest unemployment we’ve had in 65 years. We have brought more people back into the workforce and still have the lowest unemployment.” [Emphasis added]




Clue: look past the sensationalist headline EVERY SINGLE TIME....

This one, for the sake of convenience and being able to find it yourself, is titled, "The Daily 202: The U.S. Chamber wants to disentangle its brand from the GOP and hopes to rebuild the center" but, usually, that's just some fkn editor trying to get a jab in. You have to actually read the fucking content before coming to a solid conclusion. jesus. Quit letting Washington Post and MSNBC do your thinking for you. "BIG IDEA" .."THE TAKE AWAY"..."MOST PEOPLE ARE THINKING"....are all clues that they're trying to do your thinking for you.

Anyways, for the sake of bipartisanship here's a WaPo article covering the same thing....with the CoC link contained therein. Ciao!

Here's the two articles, you can guess who is who by the position they take on the same CoC action:

"Chamber of Commerce Demands More Immigration: ‘U.S. Is Out of People’"

The Daily 202: The U.S. Chamber wants to disentangle its brand from the GOP and hopes to rebuild the center




bet Soro's iis behind this somehow. flooding countries with immigrants seems to get him off. it's not secret that immigrants vote democrat and support socialist policies. within the next 20 years power with completely shift to the left do due immigration and from college indoctrination our constitution will be rip to shreds and we'll be part of Soro's new world order


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Re: Chamber of Commerce Demands More Immigration: ‘U.S. Is Out of People’ [Breitbart] [Re: 1uptoadstool]
    #26433361 - 01/14/20 02:42 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Ugh what? Soros won’t live to see another 20 years even...the guys prolly already in adult diapers, yet gets named the liberal mastermind


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Re: Chamber of Commerce Demands More Immigration: ‘U.S. Is Out of People’ [Breitbart] [Re: feldman114]
    #26433659 - 01/14/20 05:49 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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feldman114 said:
Ugh what? Soros won’t live to see another 20 years even...the guys prolly already in adult diapers, yet gets named the liberal mastermind



Quote:

feldman114 said:
Ugh what? Soros won’t live to see another 20 years even...the guys prolly already in adult diapers, yet gets named the liberal mastermind




he's still very active in funding politics so is his family. his organizations like the Open Societies Foundation will live on long after he dies.


Michelle Malkin exposes Soros and the globalist mass ...
https://www.immigrationreform.com/2019/12/10/open-borders-book-malkin-immigration...
Hungarian-born billionaire George Soros is the mastermind of mass-migration chaos. He is the center of the globalist galaxy,” and its “central financier.”

Author: Pawel Styrna
Soros-Linked Group Gets Six GOP Governors to Resettle More ...
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/12/11/soros-linked-group-gets-six-gop...
A pro-mass immigration organization with links to billionaire George Soros has successfully lobbied six Republican governors to resettle more refugees in their states. For Fiscal Year 2020, President Donald Trump will continue  cutting  refugee admissions by reducing former President Barack Obama’s refugee inflow by at least 80 percent.

The Soros Strategy: Destroy Through Mass Migration ...
https://prophecyinthenews.com/world_news/the-soros...
Nov 27, 2017 · The Soros Strategy: Destroy Through Mass Migration November 27 2017 George Soros, the billionaire open borders campaigner, has launched a “media blitz” against Hungary’s government, which has been conducting a national consultation on the financier’s plan for the migrant crisis.

Fake News: Hungary Blasts MSM for Claiming 'Soros Plan ...
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2017/09/23/hungary-blasts-msm-claiming-soros-plan...
Sep 23, 2017 · The Hungarian government has hit back at the mainstream media for claiming that the ‘Soros plan’ to open up Europe to mass immigration is an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory.

Soros-Funded Southern Baptist Leaders Now Calling For ...
https://reformationcharlotte.org/2019/12/23/soros-funded-southern-baptist-leaders-now...
Dec 23, 2019 · These two organizations support and promote mass immigration and amnesty for illegal immigrants using biblical-sounding language. To this day, there has been no accountability within the denomination for Moore’s involvement with the Soros organization.

Reports: Soros funding border caravan invasion
https://onenewsnow.com/culture/2018/05/01/reports-soros-funding-border-caravan-invasion
May 01, 2018 · Leftist billionaire George Soros is funding the well-organized anti-Trump migrant caravan invasion from Central America that has been hitting the United States-Mexico border in defiance of...

Soros to make a killing with European 'forced migration ...
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/361376-george-soros-investing-forced-immigration
However, my point here is not the mass immigration – although with the inevitable, eventual annihilation of the middle class in Soros’ “host countries” there will be nowhere for genuine refugees to go; it is that we have taxation without even the fig leaf of representation so long as men like Soros can openly create and dictate policy.

Author: Sam Gerrans
Plans of George Soros's think-tank are revealed in leaked ...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3743479/Left-wing-billionaire-group-s-plan...
Aug 16, 2016 · Left-wing billionaire’s think-tank aims to use migrant crisis to influence immigration policies worldwide: Plans of George Soros's think-tank are revealed in leaked memo ... How mass …

The Evangelical Immigration Table Exposed As Another Soros ...
https://juicyecumenism.com/2013/06/05/the-evangelical-immigration-table-exposed-as...
Jun 05, 2013 · EIT reportedly does not legally exist and is an arm of the George Soros funded National Immigration Forum, which as a “neutral third-party institution” facilitated EIT’s $250,000 radio ad campaign urging Evangelicals to back mass legalization of illegal immigrants.

Hungary passes anti-immigrant 'Stop Soros' laws | World ...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/20/...
Jun 20, 2018 · Orbán believes Soros has encouraged mass immigration in order to undermine Europe. Orbán has led eastern European opposition to European …

Global Elites Caught Plotting The Islamic Invasion Of ...
www.returnofkings.com/71667/plan-of-global-elites-to-enable-islamic-invasion-of-europe...
Oct 01, 2015 · Below replacement birth rates require mass immigrations, and nowhere is this more apparent than Germany. The issues are linked but as yet they are not linked in the public’s mind. Lots of feminists out there bemoaning mass immigration and posturing as patriotic, but are they lying back and thinking of England, Germany, US etc.

Soros 'stoking refugee fires' to topple Europe - WND
https://www.wnd.com/2015/10/george-soros-blasted-for-stoking-refugee-fires
Oct 30, 2015 · Prime Minister Viktor Orban called Soros one of several "activists" trying to take down the European Union via mass immigration from Middle Eastern regions, Bloomberg reported. Get …

Hungary ‘Ready To Fight' UN, Billionaire George Soros ...
https://www.thegoldwater.com/news/19916-Hungary...
Hungary ‘Ready To Fight' UN, Billionaire George Soros' Mass Migration Plans It's a common misconception that Europeans will go quietly into the night as their continent is continually flooded with Islamic invaders from the Middle East and Africa, and Hungary is leading the charge against globalist billionaire George Soros and the United Nations premeditated organization of global mass-migration.


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Re: Chamber of Commerce Demands More Immigration: ‘U.S. Is Out of People’ [Breitbart] [Re: feldman114]
    #26433673 - 01/14/20 05:57 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

In 20 years reanimated zombie Soros can battle Zombie Reagan to the undeath in a livestreamed caged match to decide the fate of The Western World


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Re: Chamber of Commerce Demands More Immigration: ‘U.S. Is Out of People’ [Breitbart] [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26433683 - 01/14/20 06:05 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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In 20 years reanimated zombie Soros can battle Zombie Reagan to the undeath in a livestreamed caged match to decide the fate of The Western World




I’d watch dat:popcorn:


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Re: Chamber of Commerce Demands More Immigration: ‘U.S. Is Out of People’ [Breitbart] [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26433701 - 01/14/20 06:14 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I clicked on the second to last link in 1up's post and the lady who wrotw it is a Christian nutter trying not to seem like a nutter. Cheryl K Chumley. On her
"Bold and Blunt" podcast she tries to say that our forefathers didnt believe in separation from religion, because the pilgrims came here on a religious expedition. Shitty sources...


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Re: Chamber of Commerce Demands More Immigration: ‘U.S. Is Out of People’ [Breitbart] [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #26433705 - 01/14/20 06:17 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Sulfurshelfsean said:
I clicked on the second to last link in 1up's post and the lady who wrotw it is a Christian nutter trying not to seem like a nutter. Cheryl K Chumley. On her
"Bold and Blunt" podcast she tries to say that our forefathers didnt believe in separation from religion, because the pilgrims came here on a religious expedition. Shitty sources...




Yeah I didn’t even click - it’s all breitbart, ProphecyInTheNews and JuicyAccumenism, whatever the fuck that is...

He had a fair point there about Soros, but then removed all credibility from his own argument lol


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Re: Chamber of Commerce Demands More Immigration: ‘U.S. Is Out of People’ [Breitbart] [Re: feldman114]
    #26433728 - 01/14/20 06:26 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)



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