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Brf to mono questions...
#26430453 - 01/12/20 10:42 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hello all. Soooo if one had some brf cakes and all the supplies for a sgfc and a couple shoebox brf to bulks, but would like to go grain to mono tub next, would brf cakes on perlite in a monotub work like they would in a sgfc? Or will the humidity and fac not be correct? In my mind I can’t see why it wouldn’t work, but being a novice, I assume at least some of you know better than me. The only REAL drawback for me going to sgfc is that immediately after that I’d have a potentially useless tub and need to get another for mono. This is not a huge deal. I do t want to jeopardize anything. It’d be nice not to waste a tub. That said, feel free to expand the question with reasons why it will or won’t work for overall knowledge gain. I really want to try discrete cakes just out of my own ocd-ness since it’s been around. Start off with the basics. Thanks y’all!
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Re: Brf to mono questions... [Re: DrOcean]
#26430475 - 01/12/20 11:08 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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if you have all the supplies for a few shoeboxes, why not do the BRF cakes to the mono? or just do the shoeboxes now & save the mono for grains? maybe i’m misunderstanding you.
never did cakes & SGFC, seemed pointlessly arduous when a shoebox & BRF work so well. i would assume there is a reason people use SGFC for cakes still. i figure if just putting them in a mono worked we’d know by know lol
if you really want to try cakes out, i’m sure you could make a mini SGFC & just fruit a cake or two discretely if you’re creative enough. i’ve seen them made out of blank CD stack holders, small tupperware etc.
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Re: Brf to mono questions... [Re: hazyhorse] 1
#26430494 - 01/12/20 11:36 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Brf cakes at mono with perlite bottom is pretty humidity chamber and works well. I don't understand question well. What ya asking? Also you can spawn cakes to bulk and fruit in shoebox. Moving up to grains is another topic
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Re: Brf to mono questions... [Re: DrOcean]
#26430516 - 01/13/20 12:09 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ide recommend making a Humidity Chamber as its completely unmodified. Most people use coir to humidify the chamber but I bet perlite would work well too.
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DrOcean
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I made 10 cakes. First time trying ever. When I started, I was only familiar enough with pf tek. After they got going, I learned enough to know that I should do grain and move to agar as soon as possible. My plan, assuming all 10 cakes make it, was to do 8 cakes in a sgfc and grate two of em to shoebox bulk. I guess more specifically, my question is “is it ok to fruit cakes in a mono tub design (6 big holes with polyfil) on top of perlite as you would in a sgfc, just that the holes for fae are mono style n not sgfc style?” This way I don’t have a useless tub when I’m done. As mentioned above, I’d also entertain the idea of using an unmodified tub instead of a mono style tub if it would work for cakes. My main concern is that if I did either of the latter, the humidity and fae may not be appropriate for cakes. I know either way will work for bulk. I guess I could grate up 8 of em to bulk into the big tub (58qt) and one each into 2 shoeboxes (6qt). Another way of asking...do brf cakes on foil on perlite need a 1/4 inch hole every 2” on all 6 sides to do well, or should they be ok (if I do my part watching fae n humidity) in one of the other two designs (mono or unmodified)? Hope that’s more clear.
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LogicaL Chaos said: Ide recommend making a Humidity Chamber as its completely unmodified. Most people use coir to humidify the chamber but I bet perlite would work well too.

I have a SGFC and it was an absolute pain to make, I hate buying perlite and it requires more maintenance than I'd like.
The Humidity chamber has been working well for me. I've been having trouble with what to do with the lid but it seems like keeping it on is most effective.
It is much easier than the SGFC and, so far, seems to be better for fruiting cakes. Read through this entire thread if you are interested:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25339094/fpart/1/vc/1
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Quote:
Socrateshroom said:
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LogicaL Chaos said: Ide recommend making a Humidity Chamber as its completely unmodified. Most people use coir to humidify the chamber but I bet perlite would work well too.

I have a SGFC and it was an absolute pain to make, I hate buying perlite and it requires more maintenance than I'd like.
The Humidity chamber has been working well for me. I've been having trouble with what to do with the lid but it seems like keeping it on is most effective.
It is much easier than the SGFC and, so far, seems to be better for fruiting cakes. Read through this entire thread if you are interested:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25339094/fpart/1/vc/1
Will do. Thank you.
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Still bit confused, u living outside usa and English is not your native language? But understood most now. Yes moving to agar and grain is next level but its not so easy to get clean spawn from them for beginner. But ofc you can try and may succeed like pro, I would recommend to wait and see what's gonna happen with cakes before. Sgfc sounds like a pain in ass yes, much easier is to fruit as cakes in humidity chamber or make some shoeboxes, shoeboxes done well/don't require much attention too. And yes your mono with holes? Should work but why make things harder than they are? And now, last thing, I wouldn't recommend putting all eggs on one basket and spawning all cakes to one tube.
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Firstttimer said: Still bit confused, u living outside usa and English is not your native language? But understood most now. Yes moving to agar and grain is next level but its not so easy to get clean spawn from them for beginner. But ofc you can try and may succeed like pro, I would recommend to wait and see what's gonna happen with cakes before. Sgfc sounds like a pain in ass yes, much easier is to fruit as cakes in humidity chamber or make some shoeboxes, shoeboxes done well/don't require much attention too. And yes your mono with holes? Should work but why make things harder than they are? And now, last thing, I wouldn't recommend putting all eggs on one basket and spawning all cakes to one tube.
Ha. No. English is my first language. I definitely don’t want all my eggs in one basket, which is why I plan to do one large tub and two shoeboxes. The shoeboxes will be grated to bulk coir/verm. I’ll do either an unmodified or mono for the rest of my cakes. In that mono or unmodified tub, I may leave them as cakes on perlite or grate to coir/verm. Guess that’s the decision I still need to make. Probably gonna go mono because I won’t be around some to baby them. Thanks..
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Re: Brf to mono questions... [Re: DrOcean] 1
#26432140 - 01/13/20 08:36 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not putting all your eggs in one basket has been the secret to my success!!! Don't plan any one grow will work as planned. Try many different techniques until you find what works for you.
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