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Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow?
#26431217 - 01/13/20 12:25 PM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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Would be good to get people’s advise as I go along.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26431258 - 01/13/20 12:43 PM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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For sure post what you've done so far and some pictures would be cool, lots of experienced people on here will help you out like they've done for me you can learn so much here.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Kmacmo]
#26431269 - 01/13/20 12:47 PM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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Kmacmo said: For sure post what you've done so far and some pictures would be cool, lots of experienced people on here will help you out like they've done for me you can learn so much here.
Great 👍🏼
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26431271 - 01/13/20 12:47 PM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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So I have decided to document my first shoe box attempt. Based on shaperdreamers guidance https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26009662
My shoe box is a little bit bigger than What he uses, with The dimension being 37(L) x 29(W) x 19(H)cm.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26431280 - 01/13/20 12:50 PM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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Here is the shoebox with the lid askew
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26431367 - 01/13/20 01:33 PM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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Sweet cant wait to see what happens. I've seen some pretty impressive shoeboxes on here
So u haven't spawned any yet?
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
#26431375 - 01/13/20 01:37 PM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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SpunkyMonkey88 said: Sweet cant wait to see what happens. I've seen some pretty impressive shoeboxes on here
So u haven't spawned any yet?
Nah man not with shoeBox, been using PFtek. I wanna grow more for therapy... need to deal with some stuff
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26431378 - 01/13/20 01:38 PM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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That'll do nicely do you have some spawn inoculated? Can use Brf cakes or grains upto you
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26431400 - 01/13/20 01:47 PM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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SpunkyMonkey88 said: Sweet cant wait to see what happens. I've seen some pretty impressive shoeboxes on here
So u haven't spawned any yet?
Nah man not with shoeBox, been using PFtek. I wanna grow more for therapy... need to deal with some stuff
That's why I initially started growing... I wanted to do some mental work and I'm still considering microdosing but I wouldnt be able to keep it up for long as I recently stopped growing..
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
#26431405 - 01/13/20 01:49 PM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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But ya dude grains are the way to go...you'll get so much more weight quart to quart vs brf... brf is 3/4 verm so it just cant put out as much weight.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Kmacmo]
#26431437 - 01/13/20 02:08 PM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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SpunkyMonkey88 said: But ya dude grains are the way to go...you'll get so much more weight quart to quart vs brf... brf is 3/4 verm so it just cant put out as much weight.
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Kmacmo said: That'll do nicely do you have some spawn inoculated? Can use Brf cakes or grains upto you
Gonna use these jars I have in the fridge
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
#26431463 - 01/13/20 02:24 PM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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SpunkyMonkey88 said: Sweet cant wait to see what happens. I've seen some pretty impressive shoeboxes on here
So u haven't spawned any yet?
Nah man not with shoeBox, been using PFtek. I wanna grow more for therapy... need to deal with some stuff
That's why I initially started growing... I wanted to do some mental work and I'm still considering microdosing but I wouldnt be able to keep it up for long as I recently stopped growing..
I’m ADHD and have been microdosing to help with mood at it works really well
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26431503 - 01/13/20 02:39 PM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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how long have you been microdosing now? how much/how often?
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26431874 - 01/13/20 05:58 PM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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I’m ADHD and have been microdosing to help with mood at it works really well
Same here. What is your on/off schedule?
And how much do you take? I always seem to take a bit too much (~0.4 gr) or too little (~ 0.2-0.3 gr). Just don't seem to find the right spot.
Do you also trip additionally on some days?
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Prietenul]
#26432399 - 01/13/20 11:33 PM (4 years, 15 days ago) |
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I’m ADHD and have been microdosing to help with mood at it works really well
Same here. What is your on/off schedule?
And how much do you take? I always seem to take a bit too much (~0.4 gr) or too little (~ 0.2-0.3 gr). Just don't seem to find the right spot.
Do you also trip additionally on some days?
I’ve moved this convo to here before the moderators do https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26432397
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26432424 - 01/14/20 12:09 AM (4 years, 15 days ago) |
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sure why not?
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: shroomgirl645]
#26437054 - 01/16/20 03:52 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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Ok so.... I didn’t document the crumbling of my BRF cakes as it was a bit messy however I have used 1:1.5 coir for the shoebox. It is in a cub board now with a tube rad at 28°C here are some pics

If your wondering what the cloth bag in the box is, it’s because even though I followed the instruction it was still too wet, so it is how I wrung the excess water out Of the coir.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26437117 - 01/16/20 04:35 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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Wouldn’t it be easier to just squeeze the coir out if you’re only doing the one tub?
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: A.k.a]
#26437144 - 01/16/20 04:53 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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A.k.a said: Wouldn’t it be easier to just squeeze the coir out if you’re only doing the one tub?
That’s what I did. Not sure what to do with the excess coir now. Searching for TEK that spawns straight to coir or wondering if one can create a PFtek with coir,verm and BRF
I may be just dreaming
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: A.k.a]
#26437659 - 01/16/20 11:06 PM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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A.k.a said: Wouldn’t it be easier to just squeeze the coir out if you’re only doing the one tub?
Actually, I managed to find a post on Shroomery, where it was advised to post the excess in the oven to dry out. I have since stuck it in my dehydrator 👍🏼
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26437676 - 01/16/20 11:19 PM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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Just leave extra coir to sit and dry. Yes you can make cakes with them they become a bit more compact than verm cakes but they do well
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: cronicr]
#26437681 - 01/16/20 11:22 PM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26437691 - 01/16/20 11:43 PM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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Following the SFF shoebox as well with great results! It's pretty set and forget. Less moving parts!
Looking forward to seeing the fruits of your labor!
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: cronicr]
#26437693 - 01/16/20 11:45 PM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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Is that powdery stuff In the second pic, gypsum or BRF?
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26437697 - 01/16/20 11:56 PM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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So far what I love about using coir and mycelium mix it the smell... Smells so sweet... it smells like waking up next to a beautiful woman in the morning, just after the sun has risen and the morning dew is inviting you both to dance in the grass together.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26437698 - 01/17/20 12:04 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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I know this may sound dumb... But do You literally close and lock the lid of your shoe box till they start pinning? I’m used to SGFC with cakes which is all about FAE.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26437720 - 01/17/20 12:53 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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Is that powdery stuff In the second pic, gypsum or BRF?
Brf
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: cronicr]
#26437726 - 01/17/20 01:06 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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Is that powdery stuff In the second pic, gypsum or BRF?
Brf
🍻 cheers Apologies, for I’m gonna hound you with the following questions. 1. Do you just use BRFand coir, no gypsum? 2. I know it’s about KISS, but I have a bag of verm and a box of dried manure pellets, both I bought to use in growing. If I’m all good with my coir and shoeboxes adventure, I want to use them up. Do you think it is possible to combine them in jars or as shoebox substrate?
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26437758 - 01/17/20 01:58 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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Yeah for sure fam, if you hydrate the manure and it feels muddy add verm till you get a good consistency
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: cronicr]
#26437761 - 01/17/20 02:05 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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Cool. I’ll be doing that with a albino cub spore syringe I have in the fridge this evening then. Needs using up. After full colonisation I’ll transfer them to the other two shoe boxes I have.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26437869 - 01/17/20 05:51 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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A.k.a said: Wouldn’t it be easier to just squeeze the coir out if you’re only doing the one tub?
Actually, I managed to find a post on Shroomery, where it was advised to post the excess in the oven to dry out. I have since stuck it in my dehydrator 👍🏼
I would either
A. Find a way to use the coir/ make more spawn and more tubs
B find a way to cut a chunk of the brick before you hydrate it so you dont have so much excess...
I wouldn't mess with trying to dry it after the fact, that's just me though. Sounds like a pain in the dick and a mess. If your only doing one shoe box at a time I'd definitely up your game if you have the means...
I wouldnt store it veryong while its wet either..
They have loose coir in bags, I wonder if that would be a good alternative for anyone not wanting to use a brick at a time...
Edited by SpunkyMonkey88 (01/17/20 05:53 AM)
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
#26437882 - 01/17/20 06:09 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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Zombie-ant said:
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A.k.a said: Wouldn’t it be easier to just squeeze the coir out if you’re only doing the one tub?
Actually, I managed to find a post on Shroomery, where it was advised to post the excess in the oven to dry out. I have since stuck it in my dehydrator 👍🏼
I would either
A. Find a way to use the coir/ make more spawn and more tubs
B find a way to cut a chunk of the brick before you hydrate it so you dont have so much excess...
I wouldn't mess with trying to dry it after the fact, that's just me though. Sounds like a pain in the dick and a mess. If your only doing one shoe box at a time I'd definitely up your game if you have the means...
I wouldnt store it veryong while its wet either..
They have loose coir in bags, I wonder if that would be a good alternative for anyone not wanting to use a brick at a time...
Yeah I know, it sounds like I’m a bit of an idiot. I was following a tut which doesn’t use percentages of substrate only volume. I know I could have worked out the math, but I didn’t.
I was thinking, after I get my first flush, would it be worth crumbling the substrate of that shoe box and adding it to more coir, in further boxes. Would the mycelium develop further?
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: cronicr]
#26437890 - 01/17/20 06:21 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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Looks like you dumped some coca in your coco
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Mr_enforcer1]
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Looks like you dumped some coca in your coco 
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26437904 - 01/17/20 06:33 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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Yeah I snap the lid until pins show up then normally unsnap one side for a little extra air
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: A.k.a]
#26437909 - 01/17/20 06:41 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Kmacmo]
#26438085 - 01/17/20 09:05 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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Kmacmo said: That'll do nicely do you have some spawn inoculated? Can use Brf cakes or grains upto you
Sorry missed your post... I’m using BRF cakes
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26439441 - 01/17/20 11:59 PM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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Day three, mycelium seems to be poking its way through the top layer.
 It smells sooooo good
Edited by Zombie-ant (01/18/20 01:07 AM)
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26439617 - 01/18/20 04:24 AM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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Ok.... now I’m probably paranoid, obsessing or both Does this look alright, or is it still too early to tell.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26439620 - 01/18/20 04:30 AM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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Yeah.. way too early. I’d say just try and forget about it for a couple/few days and check on it then... besides, I’m not too sure what we’re suppose to be looking at in those pics. Looks like a tub that was made a few days ago 
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26439624 - 01/18/20 04:34 AM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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The lower level looks like the mycelium has grown though. There are tiny bits of coir that in the sides that have white fluff... could that be myc. Hmnnn on a tiny bit of coir? (I’m sure all of you who have mastered this are shaking your heads with disappointment and disapproval)
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26439627 - 01/18/20 04:37 AM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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Yeah, looks like myc starting to make its way up through the top layer.. Looks like you’re on course 
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: fahtster]
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Faht
“ besides, I’m not too sure what we’re suppose to be looking at in those pics.” 🤣🤣
Being adhd having issues with working memory, it should be easy for me to “set and forget”... Obviously OCD has yet to be diagnosed.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: cronicr]
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I’m so tempted to add a little bit of mist on the sides
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Jooby]
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I have popcorn, I’d share it, but I’m saving them for colonisation
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26445552 - 01/22/20 02:35 AM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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When to pop the lid? I have overgrowth I think. I am sooo bad at this... bloody impatient and impulsive. I think ADHD means I’m not a farmer.... I’m a hunter!
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26445563 - 01/22/20 02:51 AM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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I’m gonna be honest...
There was over growth, probably due to me not leaving it alone I misted... it looked dry. There I said it. Then there was over growth, and I freaked out... Shroomery was down (my life line to myco sanity) And I impulsively chucked dry coir on it...
It now looks like this
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26445565 - 01/22/20 02:56 AM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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1. Do I leave it and see what happens? 2. Break it up and transfer it to more shoeBoxes with a mix or hydrated manure pellets and coir? 3. Break it up and transfer it to more shoeBoxes with a mix or hydrated manure pellets and coir, and brf&verm? 3. Give up stick to PFtek (don’t really want to)?
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26445566 - 01/22/20 02:59 AM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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When to pop the lid, and let some air in. I know you are all probably reading and are like this...
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26445580 - 01/22/20 03:41 AM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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Dude chill
It looks fine (healthy) but pretty dry. Mist a little on top and leave it alone till tomorrow. The mycelium will probably colonise all that top layer. Overgrowth or matted mycelium is something different, like this:
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this is matted.

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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Shr00merN00ber]
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Shr00merN00ber said: Dude chill
It looks fine (healthy) but pretty dry. Mist a little on top and leave it alone till tomorrow. The mycelium will probably colonise all that top layer. Overgrowth or matted mycelium is something different, like this:
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mushboy said: those are not matted they are just dry. you think they are matted probably because you listened to undergrad y in that other thread.
this is matted.

Breathe!
It kind of looked like that but not as bad... snowflaky..
If that over growth snowflakiness due to not enough FAE, too much misting 🤷🏻♂️
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26445624 - 01/22/20 04:59 AM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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I should have just looked at Bod's pics closer as it looked like those snow flakey
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25274461/fpart/1/vc/1
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Zombie-ant said: I should have just looked at Bod's pics closer as it looked like those snow flakey
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25274461/fpart/1/vc/1

Sounds like you need to smoke a joint and relax. You've posted 7 posts in the last 3 hours here basically talking to yourself and gradually losing sanity 
Patience (and ability to resist one's urge to constantly fiddle and micro manage the grow) is one of the most important skills in mycology.
In many scenarios if the contamination has got hold of the mycelium not much you can do will fix it (you really can only fix cobweb mold) - so you can wait it out and hope some fruits still happen or just start again.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: MrBovineJoni]
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Zombie-ant said: I should have just looked at Bod's pics closer as it looked like those snow flakey
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25274461/fpart/1/vc/1

Sounds like you need to smoke a joint and relax. You've posted 7 posts in the last 3 hours here basically talking to yourself and gradually losing sanity 
Patience (and ability to resist one's urge to constantly fiddle and micro manage the grow) is one of the most important skills in mycology.
In many scenarios if the contamination has got hold of the mycelium not much you can do will fix it (you really can only fix cobweb mold) - so you can wait it out and hope some fruits still happen or just start again.
Yeah... Patience in a virtue
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
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Lol. I hear ya on the ADHD. Shits annoying sometimes. Try to leave well enough alone. But my advice is get a bunch of shit going. Like way more than you need so that you have some to tinker with and some to leave alone. Foucus your energy on making more spawn and leave the boxes be. Also try kratom. I started it to get off pain meds and found that it also replaced my ADHD meds. Good luck. Keep growing them booms.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Bph]
#26445767 - 01/22/20 07:47 AM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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I was in a similar uncertainty myself in what looks like the same stage. The RH in my grow area is 20-30% and surface drys super fast with lid off. I decided the other day to keep lid on loosely, keeping surface slightly damp. The plan is to remove lid once fully colonized. Seems to be doing well so far.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Jooby]
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Jooby said: I was in a similar uncertainty myself in what looks like the same stage. The RH in my grow area is 20-30% and surface drys super fast with lid off. I decided the other day to keep lid on loosely, keeping surface slightly damp. The plan is to remove lid once fully colonized. Seems to be doing well so far.
Thing is I chuck coir on thinking the myc was to wet, as if it was casing saw dust to soak up puke. 🤷🏻♂️ (impulsivity). Anyway I have left it as can be seen in the previous pics, with the lid slightly open (3mm gap).
I’m gonna leave it Like I should have done and breeeeeeaaath
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Bph]
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Bph said: Lol. I hear ya on the ADHD. Shits annoying sometimes. Try to leave well enough alone. But my advice is get a bunch of shit going. Like way more than you need so that you have some to tinker with and some to leave alone. Foucus your energy on making more spawn and leave the boxes be. Also try kratom. I started it to get off pain meds and found that it also replaced my ADHD meds. Good luck. Keep growing them booms.
Kratom is illegal in the UK.... need to research it.
I have just got some Petri dishes so I’m gonna see if I have work with some spores prints I have. I also have inoculated some albinos cubes too (PFTEK), to hopefully transfer In two other shoeboxes I have. I also need to play my guitar.... she gently weeps envious of the shrooms
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26445969 - 01/22/20 09:46 AM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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Just quit fucking with it man it looks like it’s knotting, you’re gonna end up making it take longer messing with it all the time.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: A.k.a]
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Don't sweat the small stuff just yet you're doing fine
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: cronicr]
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This is good, love posts like this some fresh juicy knowledge to be soaked up... I think your gonna get some good flushes off that done everything right so far
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Hold up, no one has anything against crumbling DRY coir on top of a mostly colonized sub ?
Seems like a major no no.
OP you should probably give it a generous misting if you actually meant what you said. Like never-hydrated “dry”, right?
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: feldman114]
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
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Man you gotta level or remove that coir, soak it, then put the whole thing away for a week.
Did you sandwich the spawn inbetween layers of coir or did it just grow like that??
Also what’s going on with that uncolonized spot on the side with all the rhizo? I had a spot like that and i couldn’t figure out why it was totally untouched, then realized im an idiot and it was coir that had gotten under the liner.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: A.k.a]
#26447345 - 01/22/20 11:05 PM (4 years, 6 days ago) |
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A.k.a said: Man you gotta level or remove that coir, soak it, then put the whole thing away for a week.
I’m spraying it lightly so as not to wet it as I was impulsive and through dry coir on it, but it has grow through it well as can be seen in previous pictures
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Did you sandwich the spawn inbetween layers of coir or did it just grow like that??
the spawn started as 3x300ml BRF cakes that I crumbled into pea size and smaller and combined with ODFC coir, mixing the coir substrate and coir for about 20 mins and checked through the box that the spawn was well distributed throughout the coir.
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Also what’s going on with that uncolonized spot on the side with all the rhizo? I had a spot like that and i couldn’t figure out why it was totally untouched, then realized im an idiot and it was coir that had gotten under the liner.
That’s why I took a pic thinking the Shroomery community would be able to enlighten me. Maybe it is a coir that I missed when I though I was mixing thoroughly, That said though, it has got smaller in comparison to what it was.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
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Some more pics as another day goes by to document the process
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26452280 - 01/25/20 05:28 PM (4 years, 4 days ago) |
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Hows it coming along?
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Jooby]
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It’s getting there I think. I’ll post update pic later today. Not sure where you are but it’s 1am where I am. Will be going to bed soon
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
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Good on you for documenting. I don’t do enough of it my self.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Jooby]
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Hopefully the brown tinge to the snowy white mycelium isn’t an issue
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
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Hopefully the brown tinge to the snowy white mycelium isn’t an issue

Just make sure to keep an eye on surface conditions if you need to make adjustments or just waiting for sub/myc to absorb the excess moisture..
Shoeboxes are generally set and forget for the first flush if you get the right field capacity(slightly under is good) and a wetter micro-climate on top that should look like beading and small droplets interwoven on the Myc/substrate surface.
Surface Conditions Extensive Guide: How to Keep Those Surface Conditions Super Sexy Tek
Fav SFF Assembly shoebox Tek is in my signature w lot's of helpful images and lot's of useful info to save making mistakes.
Find a good guide/stick to it with a disciplined attitude if you want to make things work well. Over-thinking/giving in to your worries will only work against your progress. Just put in a tried and true Tek.. follow to the very word of instructions and you will have amazing results, I promise.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: HolyBolete]
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HolyBolete said: Just make sure to keep an eye on surface conditions if you need to make adjustments or just waiting for sub/myc to absorb the excess moisture..
Shoeboxes are generally set and forget for the first flush if you get the right field capacity(slightly under is good) and a wetter micro-climate on top that should look like beading and small droplets interwoven with the Myc/substrate.
Surface Conditions: How to Keep Those Surface Conditions Super Sexy Tek
Fav SFF shoebox Tek is in my signature w lot's of helpful images and useful info.

The initial field capacity was 1 or 2 drips. I think it was drying maybe, I have since sprayed and it looks like little beads as illustrated in the images on that link.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: HolyBolete]
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Hopefully the brown tinge to the snowy white mycelium isn’t an issue

Just make sure to keep an eye on surface conditions if you need to make adjustments or just waiting for sub/myc to absorb the excess moisture..
Shoeboxes are generally set and forget for the first flush if you get the right field capacity(slightly under is good) and a wetter micro-climate on top that should look like beading and small droplets interwoven on the Myc/substrate surface.
Surface Conditions Extensive Guide: How to Keep Those Surface Conditions Super Sexy Tek
Fav SFF Assembly shoebox Tek is in my signature w lot's of helpful images and lot's of useful info to save making mistakes.
Find a good guide/stick to it with a disciplined attitude if you want to make things work well. Over-thinking/giving in to your worries will only work against your progress. Just put in a tried and true Tek.. follow to the very word of instructions and you will have amazing results, I promise.

Just edited my last post that you just responded to, if for some reason you missed it
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
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This looks beady, I think... so I will keep an eye in that. I was hesitant to spray as it was “Set and Forget”. So clearly not, totally or at least in my case...
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Zombie-ant said: This looks beady, I think... so I will keep an eye in that. I was hesitant to spray as it was “Set and Forget”. So clearly not, totally or at least in my case...

Looks like great surface conditions!
You can even wait until the Coir to get to a lighter brown shade before choosing to mist.
The slight drying of Substrate sometimes just means that the myc has sponged up the excess and doesn't always mean you should mist it right away.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: HolyBolete]
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Zombie-ant said: This looks beady, I think... so I will keep an eye in that. I was hesitant to spray as it was “Set and Forget”. So clearly not, totally or at least in my case...

Looks like great surface conditions!
You can even wait until the Coir to get to a lighter brown shade before choosing to mist.
The slight drying of Substrate sometimes just means that the myc has sponged up the excess and doesn't always mean you should mist it right away.

That was after you posted the link to the visual references.
So Thanks
I try and post images daily, maybe excessive. But it means my fussing can be focused on that I have some brf/verm jars inoculated which will be transferred to the other shoeboxes when they are ready.
Little A+ albinos They Seem to be going fine too.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
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I’ve ballsed something up right
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Lol I noticed that starting in the older pics, figured it was either drying out or from the dry coir ontop somehow.
Shoulda left it alone man.
You’re like the uk meaculpa lol.
It doesn’t look like mold so it’ll prob still pin.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: A.k.a]
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A.k.a said: Lol I noticed that starting in the older pics, figured it was either drying out or from the dry coir ontop somehow.
Shoulda left it alone man.
You’re like the uk meaculpa lol.
It doesn’t look like mold so it’ll prob still pin.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26455507 - 01/27/20 04:08 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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I’ve made the mycelium inherit my stress. FFS
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26455654 - 01/27/20 05:43 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Zombie-ant said: When to pop the lid, and let some air in. I know you are all probably reading and are like this...

So this post didnt age well.
That being said, Im excited to see how excited you are for this grow man. Cant wait to see the end game.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Sockadin]
#26455662 - 01/27/20 05:46 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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I see a pin
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26455667 - 01/27/20 05:47 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Ah ha... Metabolites or Cenobites
I spot a pinhead
Can be seen in previous pic, too but noticed after. (No it’s not the green one
Hopefully it will bring me the pleasures of heaven or hell... but also provide me with some spiritual learning

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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: cronicr]
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cronicr said: I see a pin
Interestingly you posted that as I was typing LOL
I still think I’m none the wiser. 😳
Still a wise man never admits his wisdom (that’s me making excuses)
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: cronicr]
#26455681 - 01/27/20 05:54 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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cronicr said: I see a pin
You have eagle eyes man...
And it’s not even your grow
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
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A weird name drop but I had piss with the cenobite a few years ago in a public loo, the actor Kenneth Cranham... I said your a “Cenobite aren’t you” To which which he said “yes well spotted” Pleased he wasnt interested in giving me any pleasures of heaven or hell... Would have been a weird and probably unwanted george Michael thing but gorier. Sorry... I’ll shut up now
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26456245 - 01/28/20 04:10 AM (4 years, 1 day ago) |
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Wow dude ur really driving yourself nuts...you'll be seeing some more fruits soon I bet. Just so you know, IME the one time I put brf to bulk sub I didnt get any better of a BE as having them as cakes... I still got the same yield per cake. So I woulsnt get your hopes up for how much you'll get... I think if you really wanna increase your yields you gotta switch to grains.
Btw I cant believe noone hasn't given you the "edit function " lecture yet. People always got pissed when i kept replying to my own replys...it isn't fair because it doesnt give other posters a fair chance to have their post seen because you keep bumping yours to the top...just what I've been told man, I could care less.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
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SpunkyMonkey88 said: Btw I cant believe noone hasn't given you the "edit function " lecture yet. People always got pissed when i kept replying to my own replys...it isn't fair because it doesnt give other posters a fair chance to have their post seen because you keep bumping yours to the top...just what I've been told man, I could care less.
Just got missed, but that is true statement... and it’s “I couldn’t care less”.. could doesn’t make sense. Just a heads up
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
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SpunkyMonkey88 said: Wow dude ur really driving yourself nuts..
Yep, story of my life
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you'll be seeing some more fruits soon I bet. Just so you know, IME the one time I put brf to bulk sub I didnt get any better of a BE as having them as cakes... I still got the same yield per cake. So I woulsnt get your hopes up for how much you'll get... I think if you really wanna increase your yields you gotta switch to grains.
Yeah I’ve realised that... after I inoculated more BRF jars facepalm. For my next instalment I I intend on using the BRF jar spawn with a coir and manure mix, with the assumption that the manure will add nutrients and increase the yield.
I have manure pellets, which I will have to hydrate. I assume that i can use the pasteurisation process to also hydrate.
I can’t find a thread that fully describes that what I want to do above, so it may have to be done through conjecture. 🙃
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Btw I cant believe noone hasn't given you the "edit function " lecture yet. People always got pissed when i kept replying to my own replys...it isn't fair because it doesnt give other posters a fair chance to have their post seen because you keep bumping yours to the top...just what I've been told man
I have now understood the edit function
I think it hasn’t yet purely out of pity. I have been told but not by a moderator. It’s due to bloody impulsivity, which shrooms help with but I’ve run out. I excessively talk and type 🤦🏻♂️
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Don’t worry I can read stuff the doesn’t correct grammar, I think, speak, read and write the language of dyslexia. 😜
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26456987 - 01/28/20 02:49 PM (4 years, 1 day ago) |
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Can you link a picture of the manure pellets? We might be able to help with the pasteurize process if we can see what you are working with
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Sockadin]
#26457033 - 01/28/20 03:10 PM (4 years, 1 day ago) |
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https://www.bents.co.uk/organic-chicken-manure-pellets-ferorg0009
They look like this

I would have to hydrate them then mix them with coir, then pasteurise
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26457047 - 01/28/20 03:16 PM (4 years, 1 day ago) |
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could care less.
Don’t worry I can read stuff the doesn’t correct grammar, I think, speak, read and write the language of dyslexia. 😜
That was more for SM.. so he doesn’t go around saying the wrong thing the rest of his life, sounding like a noob and anyone else out there that says it wrong.. there’s A LOT 
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: fahtster]
#26457063 - 01/28/20 03:21 PM (4 years, 1 day ago) |
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Lol my mom used to say that, and a lot of my friends parents, and it always confused me as a kid.
Then once I got old enough to realize parents aren’t infallible realized what was happening.
It is kind of funny how many people say it without realizing it means the opposite of what they want. Gotta be the most common mis phrasing.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: fahtster]
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could care less.
Don’t worry I can read stuff the doesn’t correct grammar, I think, speak, read and write the language of dyslexia. 😜
That was more for SM.. so he doesn’t go around saying the wrong thing the rest of his life, sounding like a noob and anyone else out there that says it wrong.. there’s A LOT 
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26457897 - 01/29/20 02:27 AM (4 years, 20 hours ago) |
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Another pic
More pins among the metabolites, hopefully the next shoe boxes will be so white, Trump will try and recruit it in to the KKK.
And the gap on the lid (Really exciting), with two of the 6 BRF jars for albino cubes to the left Of the box
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26458054 - 01/29/20 06:43 AM (4 years, 16 hours ago) |
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Ha wow well thanks for the clarification... I'll be sure drop "n't" next time lol
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
#26458127 - 01/29/20 08:07 AM (4 years, 14 hours ago) |
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no, ADD the "n't" next time! you could not care less if you don't care about something at all.
zombie-ant, glad to see more pins
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: trubblesome]
#26458176 - 01/29/20 08:40 AM (4 years, 14 hours ago) |
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trubblesome said: no, ADD the "n't" next time! you could not care less if you don't care about something at all.
I love how this has become a dyslexia support session.... when in doubt be academic
No ‘nt
Can’t -> cannot
Don’t-> do not
Won’t-> will not
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zombie-ant, glad to see more pins
Meee tooo...
I’m looking forward to working on agar next to then transfer for WBS.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26459380 - 01/29/20 11:50 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Another pic

reminds me of the rising of the skeleton troop in Jason and the Argonauts
But only not as dramatic and not stop motion. Well I suppose the effects of shrooms can be as dramatic and scary too.
maybe The next grown documentation will have a time laps vid at the end. Hmmnnn
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26459389 - 01/29/20 11:57 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Idk if anyone’s told you but your box is fucked.
You’ll get some mushrooms out of it obviously as it’s already started pinning but your not going to get anywhere near the actual bioefficiency of what you put in. I’d be surprised if you got 7g dry. One pin with that yellow bacteria (or possibly mold) tells me your gonna be disappointed
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow [Re: jbgtaa]
#26459394 - 01/30/20 12:07 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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jbgtaa said:One pin with that yellow bacteria (or possibly mold) tells me your gonna be disappointed
Thanks for the info. I thought that the yellow was metabolites (“myco piss“, even though it isn’t piss) Give me a box co-ordinate based on the pic below, for me to identify, as I am unaware. Cheers

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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: trubblesome]
#26459524 - 01/30/20 03:59 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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trubblesome said: no, ADD the "n't" next time! you could not care less if you don't care about something at all.
zombie-ant, glad to see more pins
Plot twist: I cared all along!
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Plot twist: I cared all along!

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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: fahtster]
#26459821 - 01/30/20 08:34 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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A6-f6 down to the bottom and the top right corner
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: A.k.a]
#26459851 - 01/30/20 08:52 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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You’re like the uk meaculpa lol.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: jbgtaa]
#26459872 - 01/30/20 09:15 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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jbgtaa said: A6-f6 down to the bottom and the top right corner
I must be blind or a moron or both, as I’m still none the wiser
Here are some more pics though (close ups)
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: CocaineBuffet]
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You’re like the uk meaculpa lol.
Too far man 
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26459885 - 01/30/20 09:22 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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You don’t see the yellow spots on white myc?
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: feldman114]
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feldman114 said: You don’t see the yellow spots on white myc? 
Like I said above, I thought that was metabolites, as a result of myc fighting bacteria or dealing with stress or some sort. I wouldn’t think it was fucked...
please enlighten me further if I’m incorrect.
Interestingly, I thought no pinning would happen in the yellowish area... but there is pinning going on.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26459894 - 01/30/20 09:27 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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You’re incorrect. It’s bacteria.
Edit: I never said the grow’s fucked. It’s contaminated with bacteria though.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: feldman114]
#26459897 - 01/30/20 09:30 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Bacteria often triggers pinning. The myc is is trying to procreate before all the nutes get taken over by the contam.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: feldman114]
#26459899 - 01/30/20 09:31 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I’m interesting to know if there is a colour coding to the metabolites
I found this as the closest on scholar... but there maybe something more comprehensive that I have yet to find.
https://journals.plos.org/plospathogens/article?id=10.1371/journal.ppat.1007184
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: feldman114]
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feldman114 said: Bacteria often triggers pinning. The myc is is trying to procreate before all the nutes get taken over by the contam.
Ah ok...
Would a second flush be too optimistic then?
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: feldman114]
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feldman114 said: You’re incorrect. It’s bacteria.
Edit: I never said the grow’s fucked. It’s contaminated with bacteria though.
Your right, you didn’t, someone else did 🙏🏼 Apols
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26459904 - 01/30/20 09:35 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Naw totally possible. Bacteria just weakens the mycelium’s defenses, so there’s more of a chance of mold. I’ve had bacterial tubs go 3-4 flushes, though most I toss after 1.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: feldman114]
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feldman114 said: Naw totally possible. Bacteria just weakens the mycelium’s defenses, so there’s more of a chance of mold. I’ve had bacterial tubs go 3-4 flushes, though most I toss after 1.
Well I’m going to refrain from pessimism.
My next boxes with any luck will be informed by this process
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feldman114 said: Bacteria often triggers pinning. The myc is is trying to procreate before all the nutes get taken over by the contam.
So in a way, if I was in a rush for them to grow, sneezing on them would speed up the process. 😳🤦🏻♂️🙄
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26459939 - 01/30/20 09:55 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Haha you got the right idea.
But srsly, idk about sneezing, since it probably came from your spawn, especially since you spawned to coir. Plus yields suffer.
An intentional bacterial infection to speed up growth in a pinch could be an interesting idea though.
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jbgtaa said:One pin with that yellow bacteria (or possibly mold) tells me your gonna be disappointed
Thanks for the info. I thought that the yellow was metabolites (“myco piss“, even though it isn’t piss) Give me a box co-ordinate based on the pic below, for me to identify, as I am unaware. Cheers

That weird grid thing with all the boxes and numbers is hilarious, I burst out laughing at that, it is a good idea though.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: feldman114]
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But srsly, idk about sneezing, since it probably came from your spawn, especially since you spawned to coir. Plus yields suffer.
An intentional bacterial infection to speed up growth in a pinch could be an interesting idea though.
Depends on how desperate one wants to obtain an express ticket to another dimension
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow [Re: Ojepam]
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That weird grid thing with all the boxes and numbers is hilarious, I burst out laughing at that, it is a good idea though.
Yeah... I’m such a nerd.
Please it made you chuckle, after I posted it I thought you would think I was being annoying.
It’s via an app called copyit, I use it for gridding images that I want to draw and copy.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
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jbgtaa said: A6-f6 down to the bottom and the top right corner
I must be blind or a moron or both, as I’m still none the wiser
Here are some more pics though (close ups)

A lot of times you can tell there’s something wrong when the myc grows the big thick fingers like in the top of the second to last picture.
Usually if it’s metabolites it’s a much darker yellow and will be beads of liquid on the surface like water does when you mist.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: A.k.a]
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A lot of times you can tell there’s something wrong when the myc grows the big thick fingers like in the top of the second to last picture.
Usually if it’s metabolites it’s a much darker yellow and will be beads of liquid on the surface like water does when you mist.
Basically I’ve got to literally “clean” up my act. What a dirty bastard! I think I know when it happened... I freaked out when I misted tooo much and (impulsively) thought (and acted due to ADHD) that I could sprinkle dry coir that I had previously hydrated to soak up the water; like putting sawdust on puke 🤣 (bellend). It was bagged and probably got some bacteria from being left out to dry and then put in a dehydrator. I have now read that a clean paper towel would have done the job better.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
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According to the shoebox tek tutorials you don’t get side pins. So I’m sure I’m an exception to the rule due to either I stressed the mycelium out or because I am an exception to the rule. 🙄 So these guys will be fun.... Any advice on how to eventually harvest these guys?

Also I’ve read people flip the Substrate (what do you call it: substrate/cake/mycelial mass?) When dealing with their fuck ups. Would that be a something worth attempting after I have harvested all the fruits, prior to attempting a second flush?
KEY: white = original shoebox Green = substrate/cake Red = foil/bin liner (maybe both, foil can reinforce the bag, in the whole process) Blue = other box
I have an idea of how I would do it. I would use some foil/bin liner about 4cm wider then the “cake”, push it down on to it with the 4cm extra pressed against the sides like so...
I would then place another box slightly smaller inside to hold it in while I flip it, but use the smaller box to hold/balance the foil and “cake/substrate”, so I can remove the shoebox, like so...
I will then flip everything (not gonna draw that using my iphone). Once the shoebox is removed, I would then fold the foil upwards around the sides, like so...
Then put it back in the the original shoebox...

When it’s time for a second flush, clearly I don’t dunk like a a BRF cake... so do I just spray?
I’m sure someone is gonna say “your over thinking this man!!!”
I will say in advance “Welcome to my world!!”
Some more pics for you entertainment or further bemusement...

I love these as they remind me of Antony Gormley's artwork “Field”

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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
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In my experience the side pins are from over-misting and not letting it evaporate enough in between or starting the main substrate/poop too high above field capacity.
Basically for the Myc the side of the substrate moisture is reading like perfect surface conditions which is what we try to avoid. That matting of the mycelium we were seeing before might be due to water pooling instead of small beads of mist.
Yellow is normal but just not the peak/best of conditions. Looks like you have some nice pins. Doesn't look bacterial to me like other people are saying.. And in some situations have seen the myc piss go away once you get conditions optimized.
You are always going to have exposure to bad contams but it's our job to also make a great environment where the myc can strike back and also contain healthy bacteria.
A good guide by Bod: Bod's Easy AF harvesting TEK
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: HolyBolete]
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HolyBolete said: In my experience the side pins are from over-misting and not letting it evaporate enough in between or starting the main substrate/poop too high above field capacity.
Basically for the Myc the side of the substrate moisture is reading like perfect surface conditions which is what we try to avoid. That matting of the mycelium we were seeing before might be due to water pooling instead of small beads of mist.
Yellow is normal but just not the peak/best of conditions. Looks like you have some nice pins. Doesn't look bacterial to me like other people are saying.. And in some situations have seen the myc piss go away once you get conditions optimized.
You are always going to have exposure to bad contams but it's our job to also make a great environment where the myc can strike back and also contain healthy bacteria.
A good guide by Bod: Bod's Easy AF harvesting TEK
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
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It looks like they’re not quite side pins, but more like they’re pinning where the original sub was before you added more.
Either way it’s looking pretty good right now.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: A.k.a]
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: cronicr]
#26462294 - 01/31/20 02:56 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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The grow quick when they get going...
Like kids “they grow up so fast “ Cheers
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: HolyBolete]
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26462342 - 01/31/20 03:34 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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A good guide by Bod: Bod's Easy AF harvesting TEK
What about the fruit I have, they have grown sporadically and varied in size. Bods guide is is there is more of an even grow.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26462986 - 02/01/20 01:20 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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 Gonna have to start picking without the hose.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26463082 - 02/01/20 05:51 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Man they grow quick.... I’ve had to cut some off, Im sure I’ll be told off.

I wanted to get as many spore printS as possible and I have managed to make a spore print already for my agar learning .

Thanks for the tips and comments... learned a lot and I will no doubt learn more again.
I really enjoyed the useful feedback so far...
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
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Not bad... even though with issues
First flush
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26464591 - 02/02/20 03:13 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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They look great, good job
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Kmacmo]
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Kmacmo said: They look great, good job 
thanks
lets see how the second flush goes
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
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For the second flush I should let it rest for a bit no? Ive just realised I may have fucked up. I should have left them a few day before dunking, but I did. I am gonna leaves it and see, without mist for a couple of days. I’ve just been misting, But I should leave it for a bit right? Rest For a couple of days, then dunk?
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26466646 - 02/03/20 11:09 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nah dunk and carry on my friend.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: A.k.a] 1
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Forgot to ask about the size of the substrate, it’s shrunk like a penis in the cold. Is that an issue for the substrate or just me ego.
Also I have notice side pins 🙄
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26469602 - 02/05/20 02:33 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Shrinking of the substrate in a box/tub is part of the fruiting process. The cake/substrate becomes denser as mycelium pulls everything together (initially upon spawning - it is relatively light density - mostly due to coir) and also a lot of molecules "turn" into shrooms and are chopped off - can't escape physics ...conservation of mass.
Side pins definitely become more of problem with shrinking - correct use of bin liner before spawning can mostly prevent that for later flushes (for the future projects only - please don't go mental and start wrapping substrate in bin bags now!).
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: MrBovineJoni]
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That make perfect sense, thanks for explaining that.
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please don't go mental and start wrapping substrate in bin bags now!).
Mum is that you?!?
Or have you been reading my other posts.
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So a bin liner is a good option, that kind of adjusts to the sides as the substrate shrinks or can be made tighter with tape. Like what I had to do with my jeans after losing so much weight.
I’ve seen someone slice up the substrate and turn them on their sides on Shroomery, with the intention of giving the slices more room to grow
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
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Yes, I've seen your update where you impulsively done things in this thread 
Cutting it up is almost always a terrible idea - you weaken myceliums immune system by intentionally wounding it.
Why would you want to increase surface area of a cake - do you want more side pins .. because that is how you get side pins? Bigger surface area also increases loss of moisture via evaporation. Good substrate only grows shrooms on 1 surface.
Make sure you understand WHY people with more experience do things the way they do here instead of just copying 
And always look at who posts the information - this forum is full of noobs who think they know stuff and give absolutely terrible advice.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26469832 - 02/05/20 08:10 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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First flush
270g

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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: MrBovineJoni]
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MrBovineJoni said: Yes, I've seen your update where you impulsively done things in this thread 
Cutting it up is almost always a terrible idea - you weaken myceliums immune system by intentionally wounding it.
Why would you want to increase surface area of a cake - do you want more side pins .. because that is how you get side pins? Bigger surface area also increases loss of moisture via evaporation. Good substrate only grows shrooms on 1 surface.
Make sure you understand WHY people with more experience do things the way they do here instead of just copying 
And always look at who posts the information - this forum is full of noobs who think they know stuff and give absolutely terrible advice.
Yeah I’m realising the noob thing as a noob, which is problematic using the search engines. I have tried to limit my advanced searches to TC (topcats/trickster culivators), but that doesn’t always lead to what I want as in depends on what I’m searching. I can’t remember if it also searches for only TCs thread and replies.
The advanced search is great but again there is a lot of misleading info that gets bundled in.
I wonder if there is a way to filter threads that are posted and replied to by TCs contain
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
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Yes, there is - if you click on 'Search our forums' link at the top right corner it will lead you to advanced search screen. There are two tick boxes below text fields for "trusted cultivators" and "trusted identifiers" (more relevant for wild shroom ID, not so much growing).
Additionally it can be beneficial to limit the age of post/threads. Even for TCs some old posts don't contain the best information for a simple reason as 10-15 years ago TEKs were different (less efficient or more difficult to do for most part). It was good at the time but there could be better new details that supersede older ones.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: MrBovineJoni]
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I’ve played with that, however I’ve noticed the advanced search tips....
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Second flush, seems to be coming on.... pinheads On the way
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
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Zombie-ant said: Not bad... even though with issues
First flush
270g

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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
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Second flush still not bad

Gonna try a third and see what happens
After that I will try the substrate and make a tincture from it me thinks.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
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I’m curious how you rehydrated for the second flush.. did you dunk the sub or mist or just let it do it’s thing and also if there was any kind of noticeable potency variation between flushes? Nice job!
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
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fahtster said: I’m curious how you rehydrated for the second flush.. did you dunk the sub or mist or just let it do it’s thing and also if there was any kind of noticeable potency variation between flushes? Nice job!
Faht
I dunked it for two hours submerged with a weighted box on top. Not tried them yet, storing them in a ziplock bag containing Desiccant Bags within a UV jar in the fridge.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
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Cool.. plz report back when you do try em if you wouldn’t mind.
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Faht
I dunked it for two hours submerged with a weighted box on top. Not tried them yet, storing them in a ziplock bag containing Desiccant Bags within a UV jar in the fridge. Quote:
fahtster said: Cool.. plz report back when you do try em if you wouldn’t mind. 
Will do, I’ll put them in a specific bag, thing is though the first lot I dried on a lower heat so they took longer. I followed some old info
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
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I don’t think that should make too much of a difference.. I guess I’m asking for a significant difference, if you find one... I’m curious for science sake.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: fahtster]
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Faht
Will do man, thanks for the praise.
I will put this batch in a spectate bag and label them appropriately
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: fahtster]
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fahtster said: I don’t think that should make too much of a difference.. I guess I’m asking for a significant difference, if you find one... I’m curious for science sake.
Faht
Half term soon so I’ll be try a batch this Sunday. Loads in ziplock bags, with silica sachets, in UV airtight jars in the freezer. Need to get rid of loads... need to find out the UK prices so I can trade with my “herbalist”. Don’t wanna ask him as he may do me short.
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26484499 - 02/13/20 11:33 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Third flush.... Would you believe.... Pins are a coming... slow, but they’a ‘comin!!!
Same pic but altered brightness
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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Zombie-ant]
#26485737 - 02/14/20 04:40 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hell yeah you got some tough mudders there, they goin strong
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Zombie-ant
Mushroom Ninja in training



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Re: Would it be of interest for anyone to view my documentation of shoebox grow? [Re: Kmacmo]
#26486429 - 02/15/20 02:05 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Kmacmo said: Hell yeah you got some tough mudders there, they goin strong
They have popped properly now, will post some final pics. Gonna try the substrate and create a tincture.
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