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Mono Fruiting Advice
#26421668 - 01/07/20 06:28 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey guys I'm working on my first grow and just wanted to check in to make sure I'm not doing something stupid and ask a couple questions.
Grow So Far: 12/7 - Used 9 20 oz jars filled about 2/3 full with brown rice that were steam pasteurized. Inoculated each with ~1cc purple mystics spores in a SAB flame sterilizing before each inoculation and putting some micro pore tape over the hole after.
12/11 - First signs of growth
12/18 - Shook all the jars - def recommend adding verm + using brf to make this less of a bitch
12/29 - Mixed spawn with coco coir (1.33 650g bricks and 5L water Bucket TEK created ~1:2 spawn:sub ratio and ~4in depth) in a 53qt tub with the lid flipped

1/4 - About 100% colonized, realized flipped lid kinda sat inside the tub and really had no gaps for FAE so I rested it on two of the hatches flipped up to create some gaps

1/6 - Must have been misting too much cause it seems mycelium was a bit matted (I think that's what it is) so I added a fan blowing against the wall behind the tub and stopped misting
1/7 - Today 


Questions: In the most recent pics are all the little bumps and stuff primordia? I looked through a couple posts and they look kinda similar just looking for a more experienced persons opinion.
Is just more FAE and stopping misting the correct response to matting? Some people recommended adding a casing layer but it seems the general consensus is to just stop misting and add FAE since the coir already has a bunch of water.
Lemme know if you want any more pictures/different angles and thanks for any replies, been really enjoying reading through the forum and the process of learning the grow
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Diego


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Im not sure on the misting and fanning. The teks ive always used eliminate the need. The tub looks really good. Ive never used your spawn method but i know if my grain gets over colonized I smack the jars against a clean shoe. I dont case and my tubs do well. I think youre off to a great start!
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Re: Mono Fruiting Advice [Re: Diego]
#26421689 - 01/07/20 06:38 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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One thing else but its not required is I use a liner in my tubs for side pins and it leaves your tubs clean after use
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Re: Mono Fruiting Advice [Re: Diego]
#26421749 - 01/07/20 07:09 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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What tek are you using where you don't have to fan or mist?
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Re: Mono Fruiting Advice [Re: boom999]
#26421758 - 01/07/20 07:12 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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boom999 said: What tek are you using where you don't have to fan or mist?
Its not a tek from this sight. I feel someone may get irritable. Just google it.
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Re: Mono Fruiting Advice [Re: Diego]
#26421774 - 01/07/20 07:21 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'll google it, but perhaps you could send something to my private inbox?
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Re: Mono Fruiting Advice [Re: Diego]
#26421776 - 01/07/20 07:22 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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That’s some thick myc, should turn out pretty good although I’ve heard purple mystics can be picky. Doesn’t look like any knotting/primordial yet, just myc thinking up over the substrate. You’ll know when you see them it should be soon.
Also you shouldn’t have to fan at all as long as air can get in.
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Re: Mono Fruiting Advice [Re: Diego]
#26422071 - 01/07/20 09:57 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Diego said:
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boom999 said: What tek are you using where you don't have to fan or mist?
Its not a tek from this sight. I feel someone may get irritable. Just google it.
Hi boom999 and welcome. Check out this awesome tek. It's from this site, doesn't require misting or fanning, is so simple, and I've seen more success with it than any other tek. Big props to ShaperDreaming for posting it  https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26009662
Also, please remember to check people's registered date (right under their name...ahem, Diego) He's butthurt cause multiple users keep trying to stop him from passing bad advice but he signed up 1 month after you. And you might try watching for the "TC" near people's avatars. It stands for trusted cultivator which means they know their stuff
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Just keep doing what your doing, mist only of needed
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TheStallionMang said:
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Diego said:
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boom999 said: What tek are you using where you don't have to fan or mist?
Its not a tek from this sight. I feel someone may get irritable. Just google it.
Hi boom999 and welcome. Check out this awesome tek. It's from this site, doesn't require misting or fanning, is so simple, and I've seen more success with it than any other tek. Big props to ShaperDreaming for posting it  https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26009662
Also, please remember to check people's registered date (right under their name...ahem, Diego) He's butthurt cause multiple users keep trying to stop him from passing bad advice but he signed up 1 month after you. And you might try watching for the "TC" near people's avatars. It stands for trusted cultivator which means they know their stuff
also the rating system is a good way to check and see if someone is known for either good or bad advise and their all around track record when it comes to dealing with other members. also just cuz someone is not a tc dont mean they are not qualified and or a good cultivator. however i do not suggest ever taking any kind of action one way or another until a tc has said to do so. just be patient and eventually one will chime in to help you. 👍 by doing this we can all help bad information from killing/ruining grows
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Re: Mono Fruiting Advice [Re: Diego]
#26422266 - 01/08/20 01:20 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Diego said: Im not sure on the misting and fanning. The teks ive always used eliminate the need. The tub looks really good. Ive never used your spawn method but i know if my grain gets over colonized I smack the jars against a clean shoe. I dont case and my tubs do well. I think youre off to a great start!
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Re: Mono Fruiting Advice [Re: YogiBear]
#26422537 - 01/08/20 08:48 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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YogiBear said:
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Diego said: Im not sure on the misting and fanning. The teks ive always used eliminate the need. The tub looks really good. Ive never used your spawn method but i know if my grain gets over colonized I smack the jars against a clean shoe. I dont case and my tubs do well. I think youre off to a great start!

Some people have a hard time dealing with others opinions. Follow the tek i sent and if you dont case it you will easily pull a hp. Don't assume because i only just registered i haven't done this for years. Dudes just like to pop on everything i post and talk shit but wouldn't do a thing when a they saw a real mother fucker. Ban me I dont give a fuck.
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Re: Mono Fruiting Advice [Re: Diego] 1
#26422542 - 01/08/20 08:51 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok see you in 3 days
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Re: Mono Fruiting Advice [Re: cronicr]
#26422602 - 01/08/20 09:46 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Damn it I lost the bet. I thought he had another week.
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Re: Mono Fruiting Advice [Re: cronicr]
#26422675 - 01/08/20 10:12 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr said: Ok see you in 3 days
lol cron...
I wouldn't mist or even fan that as long as the sub isn't drying out. I'd be willing to bet that thing is going to take off on you soon. Did you add a bit of coir on top for the "top layer" (covering up the grains a little bit)?
Normally your heat and/or air conditioning is going to supply a constant flow of air if the container is left open at all. I think that's the magic of it all- Balancing the Fresh air with humidity. Some people (me included) use a fan in the room, we just dial in our tubs to fit the conditions.
I think the best way to dial in a tub is with the old school monotub method of 1.25 inch holes. The two up top near the latches and 4 down at fruiting height. I still to this day use those same tubs I've had for years. I use micropore tape to dial them in. This is an older tek, but out of doing it for so long-it's what I'm most comfortable with.
In the end, I think we can all argue which teks do things best, etc, but if you're getting good/great growing conditions without a lot of hassle - you're doing it right. Bulk sub teks are all trying to accomplish the same thing to be honest. I like my tek because its on auto-pilot until I pick the first flush- which I like - because I'm usually doing multiple tubs when I'm actively growing. To each their own in the end I guess?
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TheStallionMang said: Hi boom999 and welcome. Check out this awesome tek. It's from this site, doesn't require misting or fanning, is so simple, and I've seen more success with it than any other tek. Big props to ShaperDreaming for posting it  https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26009662
Also, please remember to check people's registered date (right under their name...ahem, Diego) He's butthurt cause multiple users keep trying to stop him from passing bad advice but he signed up 1 month after you. And you might try watching for the "TC" near people's avatars. It stands for trusted cultivator which means they know their stuff
Thanks for the link Stallion, I'll check it out. I don't have a lot of posts, but I've been here for a while (19 months longer than Diego). I've done several grows, but I'm searching for consistency and auto-pilot.
All of my grows have been with jars (some glass, some plastic) so that if I get a contam, I only lose the one jar rather than a whole tub. I like the look of and the harvest volume of a tub, but I fear losing the whole thing to contamination.
Thanks again, Boom!
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Re: Mono Fruiting Advice [Re: boom999]
#26431083 - 01/13/20 11:16 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Don’t let the fear stop you man, totally worth it. Once you get past the initial learning curve you’ll get so much more out your spawn.
Plus if it’ll fruit in the jar it’ll fruit in coir unless it’s super bad spawn.
Just use a one to one ratio of spawn and coir at first until you’re comfortable. It’ll colonize so fast there’s very little chance for contams to take hold.
Do it. Do it. Do it.
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