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Re: Trichocereus Scopulicola mescaline extraction result [Re: kerosene]
    #26437967 - 01/17/20 07:34 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

5% is insanely high.

The strongest trip I had was from 8 inches of fresh cactus, a very thin cutting of like two inches in diameter, no more. So it was like 200g of fresh cactus flesh.

The trip felt like 250 to 300 mics of lsd, or 5 to 7g of shrooms. Insane visuals. I guess it was around 600mg of mescaline. From 8 thin inches.

Never had a cutting this potent again. And I ate cactus like 25 times so far.

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Re: Trichocereus Scopulicola mescaline extraction result [Re: kerosene] * 1
    #26438112 - 01/17/20 09:13 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

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What season is it where your at? Sumner
When was the cutting taken? October
Did you extract immediately after cutting it? 1-2 months later
Did you use mid cuts(older growth) or tip cuts? Bottom 30cm cuts of 1 to 1.5m arms, fat approx 20cm diameter.
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Guys don't believe anyone that tells you they get 5% from any cactus. 0.3% to 1.5% is the norm. Anything higher up to 2 to 2.5% is 'extremely', like winning lotto, any 2% plus never comes with any evidence.




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Re: Trichocereus Scopulicola mescaline extraction result [Re: BabylonRuleDem]
    #26438118 - 01/17/20 09:15 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

Every now and then you get some cactus that is insanely strong.  Once I drank tea from Altmans Monstrose Pachanoi and some Bridgesii, and that tea was crazy strong.  Didnt expect it at all.  I also ate some SS02 one time that was super strong.  Every now and then you just get surprised by a cutting.


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Re: Trichocereus Scopulicola mescaline extraction result [Re: BabylonRuleDem]
    #26438130 - 01/17/20 09:20 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

I think that the general point here is sound, where it's extremely rare for Trich alks to break into and/or above 2%, even though there are surely higher producers that do.

These are plants, and we're always dealing with averages that are affected by genetics, environment, and preparation. It's a wide spectrum of variables.

I have been on the hard lookout for some of the more famous clones/seeds (Ogunbodede anyone?) because I want to have them in my collection-- but I don't believe for a minute that they would contain anything approaching that alk content--


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Re: Trichocereus Scopulicola mescaline extraction result [Re: BabylonRuleDem]
    #26438150 - 01/17/20 09:26 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

Yeah, that 5% was one single maximum value, most others were around 1% or less.

Also, the 5% value was from dried green skin, not the whole plant nor fresh weight.

With dried green skin -powder I get good trips from as little as 10 to 15g, from my average trichos.

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Re: Trichocereus Scopulicola mescaline extraction result [Re: coAsTal]
    #26438181 - 01/17/20 09:35 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

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I think that the general point here is sound, where it's extremely rare for Trich alks to break into and/or above 2%, even though there are surely higher producers that do.

These are plants, and we're always dealing with averages that are affected by genetics, environment, and preparation. It's a wide spectrum of variables.

I have been on the hard lookout for some of the more famous clones/seeds (Ogunbodede anyone?) because I want to have them in my collection-- but I don't believe for a minute that they would contain anything approaching that alk content--




Agreed.
Knowing that a given set of genetics can reach a certain amount under ideal conditions is nice though. Thus my reasoning for those questions, it adds to the scattered data that is available via the collective consciousness of the internet.
So thanks again for the update Kerosene:thumbup:

It would be interest to take a cutting during winter(if they go dormant in your climate), store it for a few months in the dark, and then extract. The comparison of the results could be interesting.

This is my plan with some named clones i have acquired recently, although  this will be years down the line:shrug:


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Re: Trichocereus Scopulicola mescaline extraction result [Re: kerosene]
    #26438197 - 01/17/20 09:41 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

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Pandemoon said:
Yeah, that 5% was one single maximum value, most others were around 1% or less.

Also, the 5% value was from dried green skin, not the whole plant nor fresh weight.

With dried green skin -powder I get good trips from as little as 10 to 15g, from my average trichos.

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Absolutely agreed it is an outlier.

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---kash tek. 100g dried and powdered outer skin.

---mycoptopia tek. Same amount of dried and powdered outer skin cactus.





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