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Pharmacological and Biotransformation studies of 1-acetyl-substituted derivatives of LSD
    #26430282 - 01/12/20 08:35 PM (4 years, 17 days ago)



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Re: Pharmacological and Biotransformation studies of 1-acetyl-substituted derivatives of LSD [Re: alb636] * 1
    #26430415 - 01/12/20 10:12 PM (4 years, 16 days ago)

Lots of false info on there, ALD-52 was not Orange Sunshine, it was in fact LSD-25, and ALD, 1P, and 1B are not 50-90% decrease in potency compared to LSD


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Re: Pharmacological and Biotransformation studies of 1-acetyl-substituted derivatives of LSD [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #26430980 - 01/13/20 10:07 AM (4 years, 16 days ago)

I’m sure PsychedSubstance recently released a YouTube video on ALD to compare it with LSD-25, with that new guy, Quentin.


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Re: Pharmacological and Biotransformation studies of 1-acetyl-substituted derivatives of LSD [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #26430992 - 01/13/20 10:16 AM (4 years, 16 days ago)

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Lots of false info on there, ALD-52 was not Orange Sunshine, it was in fact LSD-25, and ALD, 1P, and 1B are not 50-90% decrease in potency compared to LSD




DAMN STRAIGHT! 1A and 1P are definitely weaker, but not 50% weaker. I have no experience with 1B but I highly doubt its 90% weaker.


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Re: Pharmacological and Biotransformation studies of 1-acetyl-substituted derivatives of LSD [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26431008 - 01/13/20 10:28 AM (4 years, 16 days ago)

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I’m sure PsychedSubstance recently released a YouTube video on ALD to compare it with LSD-25, with that new guy, Quentin.



Was being lazy! Here’s the link: Legal LSD

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Re: Pharmacological and Biotransformation studies of 1-acetyl-substituted derivatives of LSD [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26432739 - 01/14/20 08:17 AM (4 years, 15 days ago)

1b is usually sold as 125mics per hit, at least here in europe. That's noticably stronger than all 100mic lsd blotters I had so far. I don't feel a difference to lsd besides the potency.

1a/ald feels a little different. Smoother, less in your face. Weaker than lsd? I don't think so. 100mics rock your world well already.

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Re: Pharmacological and Biotransformation studies of 1-acetyl-substituted derivatives of LSD [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26432793 - 01/14/20 08:47 AM (4 years, 15 days ago)

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1a/ald feels a little different. Smoother, less in your face. Weaker than lsd? I don't think so.

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Yeah 1A is very close potency wise, unnoticeable really. Honestly i kinda prefer it over LSD-25. It can still be "in your face" at higher doses. I made the mistake of taking 500ug the first time i got it and wow, it was pretty intense. The first wave hit so damn hard i barely made it to my bed before my arms started to look like this

Had a solid 4 hours of riding it out before it started to cool down. I was blindsided by it, every report i read said it was a smoother trip and "weaker" than LSD so i figured I would dose a little higher than i would with LSD.

1p however i can definitely tell a potency difference. I say roughly 80% as potent as LSD-25. And the trip is noticeably different, duration and onset wise. Seems to hit faster and last shorter(the peak at least). Doesn't really make since if the body is converting it into LSD, but that has been my experience with it.


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Re: Pharmacological and Biotransformation studies of 1-acetyl-substituted derivatives of LSD [Re: BabylonRuleDem]
    #26432812 - 01/14/20 09:02 AM (4 years, 15 days ago)

I really like ald, too. Never had the balls to do 500mics. :smile:
I took three hits a few times, and that's enough for me to make everything in my view look repetitive, like fractalizig tracers of everything with every eye movement. Almost an uncomfortably strong dose.

Damn, I still have like 110mg of ald on hand, but haven't taken any acid for almost four weeks now. I used to take it quite often, like every week or so for several months.

Next trip should be quite a ride again, concerning my low tolerance.

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Re: Pharmacological and Biotransformation studies of 1-acetyl-substituted derivatives of LSD [Re: Pandemoon] * 1
    #26433174 - 01/14/20 01:25 PM (4 years, 15 days ago)

Glad that other posters posted a lot of good info on the lysergamides in here. Good job guys. I'll just add my two cents which mainly just agrees with other people.

I personally found 1p slightly stronger than LSD but it may have just been dosed higher. ETHLAD was supposedly clearly stronger than LSD at the same dosage level. ALLAD was clearly weaker at the same dosage level. ALD52 was probably roughly the same strength in terms of intensity, but the experience was slightly milder than LSD despite being roughly the same strength at a given dose overall.

But strength isn't everything. Out of the entire lysergamide series, I'd say LSD is #1 and ALLAD is #2 in terms of quality (for me personally) even though ALLAD is slightly weaker and ethlad is slightly stronger than LSD.

I found ALD52 to be more metallic than LSD. It always had a metallic feeling to me, I don't really know how to explain that particular feeling other than that, but I always had a strong metallic feeling when I would take it. I found it to be generally calmer and less stimulating than LSD. I personally liked it less than LSD. It lost some of the magic of LSD in becoming calmer IMO. I would also say the visuals were slightly simpler than LSD.

ALLAD was simply amazing. I have nothing but good things to say about that drug. Very unique visuals, extremely cool, never had any problems, always a good time.

1P was the closest to LSD, but more stimulating and intense and for me it had much worse physical side effects. I found it to be faster and harder generally, and the visuals were a bit different.


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