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OfflinePatlal
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I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico.
    #26430005 - 01/12/20 04:38 PM (4 years, 17 days ago)

The cartels have take over Mexico, they defeated the Mexican army once, they control cities, law enforcement is corrupt, political candidates get assassinated, they are fueling the opiod crisis, etc..

They no longer hold on to massive amount of cash, they now have legit investments in real estate, stocks and other assets. Not only in Mexico.  The US also.

Idiot states that allow people to cross the US border illegally like California are helping the cartels to expand.  Many cartel members now have children born in the US creating a 2nd generation of cartel members that are legal US citizens.

Shit is out of hand.

If the cartels are desssignate terrorists, the US will be able to do missile strikes and send in the troops.

Only problem with that is if they become terrorists, Mexican citizens will be able to seek asylum in the US with the reason that they are under threat by terrorists.

5 years maximum in my opinion.

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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #26430011 - 01/12/20 04:43 PM (4 years, 17 days ago)

You think the army has no boots on the ground in mexico now?


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: Enlil]
    #26430034 - 01/12/20 05:02 PM (4 years, 17 days ago)

Patlal is a warmonger. He wants us to bomb the Middle East and invade Mexico.


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: Patlal]
    #26430035 - 01/12/20 05:02 PM (4 years, 17 days ago)

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Patlal said:
The cartels have take over Mexico, they defeated the Mexican army once, they control cities, law enforcement is corrupt, political candidates get assassinated, they are fueling the opiod crisis, etc..

They no longer hold on to massive amount of cash, they now have legit investments in real estate, stocks and other assets. Not only in Mexico.  The US also.

Idiot states that allow people to cross the US border illegally like California are helping the cartels to expand.  Many cartel members now have children born in the US creating a 2nd generation of cartel members that are legal US citizens.

Shit is out of hand.

If the cartels are desssignate terrorists, the US will be able to do missile strikes and send in the troops.

Only problem with that is if they become terrorists, Mexican citizens will be able to seek asylum in the US with the reason that they are under threat by terrorists.

5 years maximum in my opinion.

Thoughts?



USA knows how to stop the cartels in their tracks . Legalize all drugs without discrimination as to which ones should remain illegal.      USA is allowing this influx of drugs to invade the masses of the country voluntarily.    They can end it like a light switch at any moment but they don't ... They probably make a shit to of money off the drug on wars and welcome the cartels thriving business model


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: koods]
    #26430037 - 01/12/20 05:05 PM (4 years, 17 days ago)

I love war as much as the next guy, but Mexico?


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: Enlil]
    #26430058 - 01/12/20 05:25 PM (4 years, 17 days ago)

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I love war as much as the next guy, but Mexico?




Somebody's gonna have to do it.  Mexico lost control.  The cartels are a much bigger threat than ISIS and whoever is 12000km away.

They kill a fuck ton of people.  Estimates are at 115000 casualties and there's no sign of it slowing down.

They had a Mexican President on their payroll at some point...

Let's face the pipedream here. Legalization is not happening in the US... Let's abandon that idea..


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: Patlal]
    #26430081 - 01/12/20 05:47 PM (4 years, 17 days ago)

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Let's face the pipedream here. Legalization is not happening in the US... Let's abandon that idea..




:boo: abandon that idea, easy for you to say, ..never happening? another state legalizes it like every month..


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: Patlal]
    #26430084 - 01/12/20 05:48 PM (4 years, 17 days ago)

Well not of recreational meth and coke. The dominoes have started falling for cannabis though.


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: psi]
    #26430162 - 01/12/20 06:50 PM (4 years, 17 days ago)

LOL. They have no problemo gettin the drogas over here, they can cut thru that lil fence anyway.

But there are def US interests backing the cartels


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: cannabinated]
    #26430183 - 01/12/20 07:04 PM (4 years, 17 days ago)

Trump posted this picture of his wall yesterday. Clearly not interested is stopping drug smuggling



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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: koods]
    #26430201 - 01/12/20 07:16 PM (4 years, 17 days ago)

Looks intimidating.


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: Patlal]
    #26430203 - 01/12/20 07:18 PM (4 years, 17 days ago)

Mexico today is much the same as mexico 10 years ago and much the same as it will be 10 years from now.


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: Patlal]
    #26430262 - 01/12/20 08:21 PM (4 years, 17 days ago)

I hope Mexico wins.


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: nooneman]
    #26430277 - 01/12/20 08:32 PM (4 years, 17 days ago)

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Mexico today is much the same as mexico 10 years ago and much the same as it will be 10 years from now.



Yeah if we haven't threatened them by now we won't anytime soon. Last thing we need is them making an alliance with North Korea and starting a real war on domestic soil. Mexico didn't "lose control," they never had control on the first place


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: bloodsheen]
    #26430289 - 01/12/20 08:38 PM (4 years, 17 days ago)

Lets just make it look cartoo
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Mexico today is much the same as mexico 10 years ago and much the same as it will be 10 years from now.



Yeah if we haven't threatened them by now we won't anytime soon. Last thing we need is them making an alliance with North Korea and starting a real war on domestic soil. Mexico didn't "lose control," they never had control on the first place





Last need is a few mexican air strikes.


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #26430305 - 01/12/20 09:00 PM (4 years, 16 days ago)

My humble opinion is the establishment is happy with Mexico the way it is. I think 2 things would trigger a war with Mexico. Abandoning the petrodollar or a strong alliance with China or Russia. Why did the establishment invade Iraq in 2003? Saddam Hussein wanted to trade oil for gold and euros. All of a sudden he is the mastermind of 911. We go to war and he is hung. Gaddafi wanted to create an African Union sell African natural resources. The establishment creates the “Arab Spring” Nato bombs Libya and Gaddafi is killed. Does anybody see a pattern or do I need to take my aluminum foil hat off.


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: Antigov] * 1
    #26430318 - 01/12/20 09:07 PM (4 years, 16 days ago)

I agree. We don't care about justice or fairness or even loss of life. We care about stability, and at the moment drugs are pretty much fueling our economy. Cartels are killing by the thousands but not us, and not anyone useful to us. We don't care if America bombs some shit hole with crazy ideals halfway across the earth. But our neighbors, that shit feels real. It's a hard sell to the American people


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: bloodsheen]
    #26430329 - 01/12/20 09:11 PM (4 years, 16 days ago)

In the 70's, Mexico was a totally different place. The cartels have 100% taken over and destroyed that country. It wasn't always like that and I remember going there even in the 80s with my parents and not feeling afraid. Things have def changed in Mexico. Violence has gotten much worse. Why...is another question.


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: Kinko]
    #26430382 - 01/12/20 09:47 PM (4 years, 16 days ago)

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USA knows how to stop the cartels in their tracks . Legalize all drugs without discrimination as to which ones should remain illegal.



I've thought this before. It would definitely stop the cartels from making money on drugs. But after thinking about it longer I Start to wonder if it'll actually just make things worse in other ways. Like maybe they would just start trafficking more humans from the U.S. or something to make up for all the lost drug money? I don't know. Legalizing all drugs seems like it could be a good idea for a lot of reasons. It would make it safer for those who use and might actually decrease the amount of people who choose to use. You get rid of that whole forbidden fruit effect. But I feel there might be unsuspected consequences if it happens to fast. These cartels often times keep a close eye on thier clients-at least certain ones who end up getting heavily involved-and a lot of people might end up going missing without that financial source. It's definitely a complicated situation.


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: koods]
    #26430388 - 01/12/20 09:51 PM (4 years, 16 days ago)

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Trump posted this picture of his wall yesterday. Clearly not interested is stopping drug smuggling





Lawl yeah a walls definitely not gonna do shit. I could get over that with a big ladder.


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: Patlal]
    #26430492 - 01/12/20 11:34 PM (4 years, 16 days ago)

Would go with more in 5 years first with Iran then Russia.  We are in for a ride.  Fuck it.:beer::chesire:


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: azramb]
    #26430542 - 01/13/20 12:48 AM (4 years, 16 days ago)

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I agree. We don't care about justice or fairness or even loss of life. We care about stability, and at the moment drugs are pretty much fueling our economy. Cartels are killing by the thousands but not us, and not anyone useful to us. We don't care if America bombs some shit hole with crazy ideals halfway across the earth. But our neighbors, that shit feels real. It's a hard sell to the American people



That’s part of the reason I was going as hard as I was during the “epidemic/vape deaths”.  Not strictly because I’m all about that hardcore vape life yo but because it was a perfect example on how the US govt uses taxes, propaganda, scare tactics, the news channels and hella blatant lies to get it’s way.  Usually they camouflage their methods pretty well but I feel like they had to move in a hurry with the vape thing and didn’t cover their tracks really well so not only was it immediately obvious but all the peripheral things like them wasting millions of tobacco tax dollars that are completely unaccounted for, which tax payers will make up the difference for, became obvious too.  All of it is a fraud, shit’s make believe... all except for the brick wall that we’re all about to slam into full speed.  The brick wall is real.

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USA knows how to stop the cartels in their tracks . Legalize all drugs without discrimination as to which ones should remain illegal.



I've thought this before. It would definitely stop the cartels from making money on drugs. But after thinking about it longer I Start to wonder if it'll actually just make things worse in other ways. Like maybe they would just start trafficking more humans from the U.S. or something to make up for all the lost drug money? I don't know. Legalizing all drugs seems like it could be a good idea for a lot of reasons. It would make it safer for those who use and might actually decrease the amount of people who choose to use. You get rid of that whole forbidden fruit effect. But I feel there might be unsuspected consequences if it happens to fast. These cartels often times keep a close eye on thier clients-at least certain ones who end up getting heavily involved-and a lot of people might end up going missing without that financial source. It's definitely a complicated situation.



I’m all for legalizing drugs, but one thing has made me think there could be a few hitches.  The opiate epidemic, that proved that as a whole, there’s a lot of us that can’t be trusted to be responsible with things that carry a risk factor.  It’s the case of, an idiot blows his hand off with a firecracker and now none of us get to play.  A comparison would be guns, I believe guns should be legal and anyone should be able to possess them.....in a perfect world.  Thing is, we’re not in a perfect world so it fucks the whole thing up because there are certainly people I don’t want having a gun.  So, what do you do...?  I’m not real sure what the perfect answer is.

Fucking idiots are what should be banned/made illegal..


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: Amanita86]
    #26430557 - 01/13/20 01:03 AM (4 years, 16 days ago)

Basically, America can take Mexico at any time, and they just well damn might.


All it's going to take is several key drone strikes from city to city, and the entire nation of Maxico will fall the the USA.


AND AT LEAST THAT WAY people will stop being so racist towards people from Mexico.


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: Patlal]
    #26430773 - 01/13/20 07:24 AM (4 years, 16 days ago)

One of my college friends was a Navy pilot. He retired as a commander, and now he works for the State Department in Mexico City fighting the cartels.


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26430781 - 01/13/20 07:31 AM (4 years, 16 days ago)

Sorry for him, being a fighter .


Let's both now pray he makes it out alive , and other good Mexicans.


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: Fiery]
    #26431244 - 01/13/20 12:35 PM (4 years, 16 days ago)

What the us needs to so is form a sort of allegiance with Mexico, do a little spring cleaning on both sides of the fence and as time goes on that fence becomes a little by little more obsolete.

Nobody is interested in fixing shit though they just want to sell out to the highest bidder, take the money and run.


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: Fiery]
    #26431246 - 01/13/20 12:36 PM (4 years, 16 days ago)

Fiery I think you and I should schedule an appointment with trump and tell him how all this is gonna work.


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: Amanita86]
    #26431270 - 01/13/20 12:47 PM (4 years, 16 days ago)

might as well take Canada too, solve this whole 'wall' problem.


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: Fiery]
    #26431282 - 01/13/20 12:51 PM (4 years, 16 days ago)

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All it's going to take is several key drone strikes from city to city, and the entire nation of Maxico will fall the the USA.



Yeah drones would do it.


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: ellomello]
    #26431296 - 01/13/20 12:57 PM (4 years, 16 days ago)

I’m not saying take bro.  Imagine if the whole of N.America and S. America were an alliance.

I was watching this podcast and apparently China is buying up hella real estate in Mexico and even the Mexicans don’t like them because they treat the Mexicans like shit.  Apparently lithium is in Mexico and once cars go to batteries that’s where the new ‘oil wars’ are going to be.  I was only kind of half listening but that’s pretty much what they were saying.  I haven’t fact checked it.


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: Amanita86]
    #26431373 - 01/13/20 01:36 PM (4 years, 16 days ago)

You're right.  There's a fuck ton of lithium in Mexico.


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: Patlal]
    #26431552 - 01/13/20 03:02 PM (4 years, 16 days ago)

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The cartels have take over Mexico, they defeated the Mexican army once, they control cities, law enforcement is corrupt, political candidates get assassinated, they are fueling the opiod crisis, etc..

They no longer hold on to massive amount of cash, they now have legit investments in real estate, stocks and other assets. Not only in Mexico.  The US also.

Idiot states that allow people to cross the US border illegally like California are helping the cartels to expand.  Many cartel members now have children born in the US creating a 2nd generation of cartel members that are legal US citizens.

Shit is out of hand.

If the cartels are desssignate terrorists, the US will be able to do missile strikes and send in the troops.

Only problem with that is if they become terrorists, Mexican citizens will be able to seek asylum in the US with the reason that they are under threat by terrorists.

5 years maximum in my opinion.

Thoughts?




sounds like you just got done watching the same joe rogan podcast that I did.


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: 1uptoadstool]
    #26431569 - 01/13/20 03:09 PM (4 years, 16 days ago)

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The cartels have take over Mexico, they defeated the Mexican army once, they control cities, law enforcement is corrupt, political candidates get assassinated, they are fueling the opiod crisis, etc..

They no longer hold on to massive amount of cash, they now have legit investments in real estate, stocks and other assets. Not only in Mexico.  The US also.

Idiot states that allow people to cross the US border illegally like California are helping the cartels to expand.  Many cartel members now have children born in the US creating a 2nd generation of cartel members that are legal US citizens.

Shit is out of hand.

If the cartels are desssignate terrorists, the US will be able to do missile strikes and send in the troops.

Only problem with that is if they become terrorists, Mexican citizens will be able to seek asylum in the US with the reason that they are under threat by terrorists.

5 years maximum in my opinion.

Thoughts?




sounds like you just got done watching the same joe rogan podcast that I did.




I was gonna say “just finished binging Narcos:Mexico” lol

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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: 1uptoadstool]
    #26431575 - 01/13/20 03:10 PM (4 years, 16 days ago)

One of my favorite guests, he doesn’t talk in hypotheticals or some other nonsense, he’s been there.  Another guy that is an amazing guest is Ioan Grillo, check out his podcast on JRE.


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: Amanita86]
    #26431662 - 01/13/20 03:46 PM (4 years, 16 days ago)

Joe Rogan got old real quick


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: koods]
    #26431669 - 01/13/20 03:48 PM (4 years, 16 days ago)

That episode of JRE was overwhelming.


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: AmazonianGuru]
    #26431681 - 01/13/20 03:52 PM (4 years, 16 days ago)

I listened to both the Joe Rogan w that guy and I'm still planning on going thru n all around Mexico on my way to Guademala


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Re: I predict that at most 5 years from now, the US army will have boots on the ground in Mexico. [Re: Patlal]
    #26431779 - 01/13/20 05:06 PM (4 years, 16 days ago)

No chance if you mean Troops there without the explicit permission of the Mexican government. The only reason the cartels are so powerful is the insane demand for drugs in America. We share a long border and it’s the best way for the drugs to enter. The Colombians got tired of getting busted and let the Mexicans take the front job of moving it in to USA. We change our drugs laws and the profits collapse and so does the violence and corruption. All the things you describe happened during the 20’s through the 80’s with the Italian mob in America. They even got a president elected in 1960. They took over entire police forces and mayors and ran every major American city. We didn’t invade Italy or ban Italian immigrants. We also have enormous trade with Mexico and if we messed with that both countries would slide into a major recession. Almost 700 billion a year in trade and major industries dependent on these supply chains and relationships after decades of NAFTA.


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