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Confused about when to spawn to bulk
#26429087 - 01/12/20 03:20 AM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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Hi!
I've been trying figure out when the appropriate time is to spawn my grain-jars to a bulk substrate. What's confusing to me is that different people say different things. I've watched some youtube-videos and some present that the jars should be completely covered in mycelium, and be white at all sides and bottom. And other videos (same strain) seem like they haven't let the mycelium fully consolidate the grain. In other words, they don't need to use a cheese-grader or something similar to break it up, they just spread the grain in the bulk substrate. I was wondering if anyone could tell me how far along my jars have until they are ready to be graded down and put in a substrate for further colonization. Should I wait for in vitro pinning before doing anything?
This is my first grow, and I hope the mycelium looks healthy. I've been told that condensation on the glass is a good sign of healthy mycelium, and my jars have a lot of that. Any input is welcome! Thank you all!
  
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Re: Confused about when to spawn to bulk [Re: kalran]
#26429106 - 01/12/20 03:55 AM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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Inoculate, shake at 25%, wait till its fully white (what you can see) then leave for 7 days then ready to go to bulk 
Jars look fine, I've never heard anyone say condensation means healthy mycelium ideally you don't want condensation just dry lookin grains.
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Re: Confused about when to spawn to bulk [Re: Kmacmo]
#26429117 - 01/12/20 04:19 AM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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Kmacmo said: Inoculate, shake at 25%, wait till its fully white (what you can see) then leave for 7 days then ready to go to bulk
So you're basically telling me that they are ready to spawn to bulk in 7 days?
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Re: Confused about when to spawn to bulk [Re: kalran]
#26429148 - 01/12/20 05:24 AM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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Some do 5 days upto 7 days, 7 is safer.
Yeah 7 days from full colonisation, how long have your jars been all white?
If they have been full white for a couple days already then just wait another 5 days now.
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Re: Confused about when to spawn to bulk [Re: Kmacmo]
#26429156 - 01/12/20 05:39 AM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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Ok! They have been this white for approximately 4 days. Do people usually use a cheese-grader to grade down the mycelium for distribution in the bulk-substrate? Or will I be able to break them apart with banging the jar with a tennis-ball? OMG I'm getting so excited!! I'm just afraid to fuck up this last part
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Re: Confused about when to spawn to bulk [Re: kalran]
#26429163 - 01/12/20 05:48 AM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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Awesome not long left now don't cheese grate the grain just give it a good slap around with a roll of duct tape or use your tennis ball :P
Break it up abit more inside the tub with the substrate if it needs it as well.. Might find clumps of grains stuck together
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Re: Confused about when to spawn to bulk [Re: Kmacmo]
#26429170 - 01/12/20 05:58 AM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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Ok, will do. Thanks a lot! You've made my day!
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Re: Confused about when to spawn to bulk [Re: kalran]
#26429196 - 01/12/20 06:37 AM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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When your jars are 100% colonized then you spawn to bulk. Not at 99%. Not 5-7 days after a shake. But when they visually can be confirmed to be 100%. Not a day before 100% & not a day after 100% but when they get to 100% they're ready.
You can wait till after 100% but its more ideal to use them before they start to consolidate so leaving them at 100% for a few days isn't what you want to do
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Re: Confused about when to spawn to bulk [Re: bodhisatta]
#26429222 - 01/12/20 06:56 AM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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When the grains are fully colonised they will look pretty solid in the jar. If you are spawning to bulk you do not need to "consolidate" any further, as the mycs energy doing that will be wasted when you break it up to spawn it. BRF jars need consolidation, grain jars do not.
At spawning you'll want to shake the jar to get the grains broken up, you don't need a cheese grater, just some cautious force.
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