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In easing Potency
#26428583 - 01/11/20 05:42 PM (4 years, 18 days ago) |
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Anyone have some tips on increasing potency of fruits ?
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magicmushroomhunt
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Re: In easing Potency [Re: Wavebeam]
#26428680 - 01/11/20 07:11 PM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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Harvesting fruits well before they are mature will significantly increase alkaloid ratio although I don’t know if this is what you are asking about.
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Give them good conditions. Don’t harvest too late. Make sure they are 100% dry. Eat more.
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Re: In easing Potency [Re: Wavebeam]
#26428701 - 01/11/20 07:26 PM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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Well one popular thing is longer consolidation times, but from what ive read from other peoples response to this question its mainly genetics.
Penis envy and their other varieties are more potent more often, but they grow slower. Paneolus are more potent, at least twice as cubes. Some say even more But you could also go the other route and grow lots of cubes then just consume more
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Grow ape? Or for that matter grow some pans. I hear they are the bomb.
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Re: In easing Potency [Re: Bph]
#26428771 - 01/11/20 08:26 PM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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What exactly are Pans?
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Re: In easing Potency [Re: Wavebeam]
#26428788 - 01/11/20 08:43 PM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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Active mushies of the panaeolus species, Pan cyanescens and cambodginiensis are 2 popular varieties, but theyre a little harder to grow than cubes. Not a whole lot but theyre more finicky about the conditions
Most people dont suggest doing over 2 grams cause theyre potent as hell. And most people who ive read have grown them decide thats all they wanna grow anymore haha
Do the search function, asura has a ton of info on em in his profile that he learned from bluehelix and annehalonium and compiled together
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magicmushroomhunt said: Harvesting fruits well before they are mature will significantly increase alkaloid ratio although I don’t know if this is what you are asking about.
How lol.
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Re: In easing Potency [Re: cronicr]
#26429165 - 01/12/20 05:50 AM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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magicmushroomhunt said: Harvesting fruits well before they are mature will significantly increase alkaloid ratio although I don’t know if this is what you are asking about.
How lol.
I dont subscribe to this theory but I think I read it in a stamets book. Something about after veil break they put all energy into sporulating and less on sustaining the fruits life. I could be remembering the wording incorrectly but it the jist of it.
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Re: In easing Potency [Re: Drboomer]
#26429262 - 01/12/20 07:53 AM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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Well i know ive read that when theyre younger theyll have the same alkoloid content as when they get bigger, because they have the same cells they just expand. So why not let em grow all the way n make a metric shit ton of prints to sharexD
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Re: In easing Potency [Re: Drboomer]
#26429324 - 01/12/20 08:58 AM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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cronicr said:
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magicmushroomhunt said: Harvesting fruits well before they are mature will significantly increase alkaloid ratio although I don’t know if this is what you are asking about.
How lol.
I dont subscribe to this theory but I think I read it in a stamets book. Something about after veil break they put all energy into sporulating and less on sustaining the fruits life. I could be remembering the wording incorrectly but it the jist of it.
It does cell enlargement so rather than creating more cells they are filling the existing ones with water so it's like a balloon filling up so all youre getting is just water weight so if aloud production has anything to do with cell division than sure you may lower your percentage of total alkoids to wet weight but not dry weight.
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Re: In easing Potency [Re: cronicr]
#26429487 - 01/12/20 10:53 AM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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Thanks for the feedback yall
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Re: In easing Potency [Re: Wavebeam]
#26429510 - 01/12/20 11:11 AM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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I thought he was referring to how aborts are supposed to be stronger.
Lol just scrape all your pins off. Done.
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Re: In easing Potency [Re: A.k.a]
#26429568 - 01/12/20 11:44 AM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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magicmushroomhunt said: Harvesting fruits well before they are mature will significantly increase alkaloid ratio although I don’t know if this is what you are asking about.
How lol.
“The most bang for the buck comes from small fruits, prior to veil tearing. Even pins are great, and that's why you hear about aborts being so good. It's not because they aborted, but because they're at peak potency/gram at the pinning stage. RR
“Mushrooms are not plants, nor do they have circulatory systems. You folks can search back and see that this exact thread gets repeated at least every two or three months. Nothing has changed. That's why we say, "pick them when small, before the veil tears". It's also why when you go to Amsterdam and buy them in a smart shop, they're picked and packaged as pins, without the veil having torn. They know. RR”
I thought that it was that the earlier the mushroom is in its life cycle the higher ratio of alkaloids it possesses
I understand cellular expansion vs cellular division but are alkaloids synthesized at different rates throughout the Mushrooms life cycle?
Does alkaloid production slow down after sporulation occurs? Does it completely cease? Does alkaloid production slow down after pinning?
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So Pans cannot be cultivated the same way as golden teachers in a monotub? Any huge differences in cultivating APEs to golden teachers?
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Re: In easing Potency [Re: Wavebeam]
#26430251 - 01/12/20 08:10 PM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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Not really they’re grown the same way, but golden teachers will be much more forgiving and higher yielding.
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Re: In easing Potency [Re: A.k.a]
#26440519 - 01/18/20 04:47 PM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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How does this work for gauging dosage? Isn't this usually sold/measured by weight? If slightly mature pins are just as potent as full fruits why do we let them grow? To make them look pretty? Bring the weight up on the scale?
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HighHarles said: How does this work for gauging dosage? Isn't this usually sold/measured by weight? If slightly mature pins are just as potent as full fruits why do we let them grow? To make them look pretty? Bring the weight up on the scale?
*Gauge dosing by eating some then decide if you want more or less of a buzz and adjust. *Yes mush are sold as well as measured by weight. *Even if all the magic was in the pins I would still grow them out cause like we just talked about they are sold by weight. But that's stupid. Eat a pin thats .02 grams dry then eat a mature fruit that's 3 grams dry and tell me Wich one is stronger. *So yes weight and bag appeal are part of the reason we do things we do but also cause.... Magic.
Edited by Bph (01/19/20 06:29 AM)
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Re: In easing Potency [Re: Bph]
#26441245 - 01/19/20 07:08 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Because pins are more potent by weight but there’s more actives overall in larger mushrooms.
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Re: In easing Potency [Re: A.k.a]
#26441271 - 01/19/20 07:33 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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I pc'ed my compost last go aroud and used it as substrate with Oats. the first pull was with no compost just oats... every mushroom off that pull was super weak. but after adding my Pc compost i got a total of 7 pulls and they where all much more potent than the initial no compost.
About to start a new round and was thinking about making compost tea... doing a light filter and using it to PC my oats.....=)
Edited by HappyHigh (01/19/20 07:35 AM)
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