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What Is Tripping?
    #26427300 - 01/10/20 09:31 PM (4 years, 19 days ago)

So I'm sitting here on Shroomery...a good 6 or so years removed from my last dose of a psychedelic substance that wasn't a micro-dose...I've barely touched weed in those years as well...off one hit or so I'm usually good...and mind you this is the first time in a LONG time that I've spent this much time on the Shroomery in one sitting...just reading, appreciating.

So I change the music and come to this board here, start reading stuff and realize while reading that I can STILL go into a trip at will...

...now the thing is I don't always remember I have the ability to do this and other times I can't really do it the same way/I don't have the same control...but it seems like by letting it all go, drugs, sex, meat, etc, that I actually found a closer, more controlled relationship with my own mind and I'm finding that there is some sort of on/off switch available to me hat allows me to go into what I remember as a "trip".

The thing is, I don't want to go there because I don't know what that mind state actually is...

....it feels like opening myself up to allow cosmic meaning and beings to come and dance with me and be in communion with me BUT that seems completely unnecessary because I am never closed off anyways...those things are always happening regardless of if I hit this on/off switch.

The experience of turning this switch "on" is quite enjoyable sensually and I think that's another reason why I don't need it but it can be good for people. 

I am beginning to think "tripping" is "seeing" a union/communion in the universe and enjoying that experience but it is different from "knowing" this union/communion.  When you know something you no longer need to see it anymore because you already know it.  Being reminded of it might be nice sometimes but becoming entranced by it seems completely wasteful when you aren't seeking to know more. 

Of course I want to know more...I want to know what "higher" states exist and I think "tripping" is just a glimpse handed down to us in order to allow us to gather up our will and push forward but that glimpse maybe comes at a price...I believe it does...once you know these things or you've seen these things they can't be unseen....and you may want more but finding that more is probably not going to come about without straying from a righteous path unless you are willing to wait...because I believe these things which have been shown to us are a glimpse at the something greater, the connection, that we will dwell in forever...so don't be trapped in questions raised by your lack of the complete truth now....just stick to the path...THE PATH IS GOING TO BE TOUGH AS NAILS ANYWAYS....that's why we were given the psychedelics I believe...





......What do you think tripping is?  You can be boring and say it's just chemical/physical/energetic reactions in your brain and sure, of course it is.  But more specifically, do you have any theories or ideas as to how the experience is linked in some way to the other occurrences outside of the brain? 

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Re: What Is Tripping? [Re: Nymphaea] * 1
    #26427306 - 01/10/20 09:41 PM (4 years, 19 days ago)

I think it’s sort of like going off the map in a video game, or seeing under the hood at aspects of the human psyche. It’s always there to be discovered, clearly in the realm of possible experience because it is brought about reliably from certain substances. It’s not quite psychosis, either. It’s certainly something. A place. Whenever I end up there I’m like “ah, this.” A part of me wonders why I came back.


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Re: What Is Tripping? [Re: CountHTML] * 1
    #26427383 - 01/10/20 10:41 PM (4 years, 19 days ago)

This is called, the singing of the spheres. LSD and psilocybin are the not the only ways that it is possible to attune your brain to hearing it.


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Re: What Is Tripping? [Re: CountHTML]
    #26427488 - 01/11/20 02:17 AM (4 years, 18 days ago)

Tripping = accessing the HTML code of "reality", to a degree IMHO.


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Re: What Is Tripping? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26427551 - 01/11/20 05:10 AM (4 years, 18 days ago)

Maybe you're just going crazy because you cut out meat AND sex!?:whiteflag:

Haha just kidding. To each their own. Anyway, people are able to reach higher states of consciousness through mediation. A higher state doesn't always have to be connected with a psychedelic, it just makes it easier.

A lot of people are capable of this. Takes a lot of practice, but its definitely doable. Especially if you've tripped before, that headspace is now a familiar and you're able to have something to "grasp".

Unfortunately, I'm unable to do this, as I've tried. I can get some of the headspace, but to say I'm at a higher state of consciousness sounds like I would be lying to myself. I usually practice this on a nice sunny day, hanging in my hammock by some water with my headphones.

Just taking everything in - and that's only if I didn't dose because of reasons. But I definitely do try to enter that headspace. I envy ones that are capable of doing so. It's easier for some than others. I'll keep practicing..

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Tripping = accessing the HTML code of "reality", to a degree IMHO.



I've always looked at it as being able to read between the lines. But that's a good analogy as well. Its def a hidden reality. Our sober minds just filter things out differently. It's all real in my opinion.


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Re: What Is Tripping? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast] * 1
    #26427593 - 01/11/20 06:06 AM (4 years, 18 days ago)

Tripping. Hearing the music the way its meant to be heard. :smile:


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Re: What Is Tripping? [Re: fungivore] * 1
    #26428281 - 01/11/20 02:47 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

My theory is that psychedelics fire off synapses more rapidly, randomly and to areas of the brain that don't usually directly communicate.

I am not sure if the feeling of unity and oneness is real or an artifact of so many synapses firing off in unusual pathways or if the ego-dissolution is a real thing.

It sure feels real while you are going through it though.

Interesting study here from a Berkeley research program:

https://beckleyfoundation.org/the-brain-on-lsd-revealed-first-scans-show-how-the-drug-affects-the-brain/


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Re: What Is Tripping? [Re: Ranger7227]
    #26428303 - 01/11/20 02:56 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

Its like being in another persons metaphorical shoes and looking at your life from the outside looking in, while you're silmaltaenously on the inside looking out.  These tandem states allow one to re-examine their problems from both sides, just like talking to a therapist, but with much more pure and accurate insight/outsight. 

Just like for you, it's so easy to see your friends problems in life and how to fix them, yet can't see that in yourself - tripping allows you to access that state and create a dialogue with your constant internal self and tripping external self.  Like self therapy.

It also inhibits the brain the same way as in a dream to allow reality to flex and bend and break free of the ingrained formed associations/understanding of the world you have in your formative years - so in a way you are like a very young child yet still a wise adult.  By having access to both those realms, you can re-understand reality and re-learn things about the world outside of you and the world inside of you and re-integrate them into your sober self.

Like for instance, in your formative years at some point you realized you are your own being, and every other person is another being.  Seperation.  Now, that's the way you see things.  Yet in that brain inhibited state of LSD per say, you can then think back before these formations happened in early years and realize "wait, every person is just one being together - we just see it as seperate!"  or "every thing is one, not seperated into a infinite amount of things!" 

Thats why it is so therepeutic because it allows us to break free of those psychological formations we formed in the past and reforge them in ways that better us as a being.


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Re: What Is Tripping? [Re: fungivore]
    #26428408 - 01/11/20 03:49 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

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Tripping. Hearing the music the way its meant to be heard. :smile:



I guess you're a beginner. Tripping is much more than that...


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Re: What Is Tripping? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26428546 - 01/11/20 05:16 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

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Tripping. Hearing the music the way its meant to be heard. :smile:



I guess you're a beginner. Tripping is much more than that...




Honestly sometimes you will hear it in ways it was never meant to be heard.  lol.  But in all honesty if you are referring to the music of life, nicely put.  Music is beautiful and going through the earlier parts of life or the earlier periods of psychedelic use are also VERY beautiful things so don't worry about being a "beginner" or anything else (if that's even the case, not saying it is - just trying to let you know not to worry about what the guy said).  There's no wrong answers and we need every perspective. 

Thank you for all the answers everyone.  These were beautiful to read through and get all types of different perspectives...goes to show me how much appreciation I may be missing out on since the years have been passing behind me so swiftly. 

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Maybe you're just going crazy because you cut out meat AND sex!?:whiteflag:

Haha just kidding. To each their own. Anyway, people are able to reach higher states of consciousness through mediation. A higher state doesn't always have to be connected with a psychedelic, it just makes it easier.

A lot of people are capable of this. Takes a lot of practice, but its definitely doable. Especially if you've tripped before, that headspace is now a familiar and you're able to have something to "grasp".

Unfortunately, I'm unable to do this, as I've tried. I can get some of the headspace, but to say I'm at a higher state of consciousness sounds like I would be lying to myself. I usually practice this on a nice sunny day, hanging in my hammock by some water with my headphones.

Just taking everything in - and that's only if I didn't dose because of reasons. But I definitely do try to enter that headspace. I envy ones that are capable of doing so. It's easier for some than others. I'll keep practicing..

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Tripping = accessing the HTML code of "reality", to a degree IMHO.



I've always looked at it as being able to read between the lines. But that's a good analogy as well. Its def a hidden reality. Our sober minds just filter things out differently. It's all real in my opinion.





lol.  Yea, it probably makes me a little more crazy, jk, but honestly, it's been pretty great in many ways and the part that makes me go crazy is not really the fact that I'm "missing out" but all the other problems that come with that lifestyle...(problems with people generally).

It sounds like you take the relax, enjoy peacefulness, nature, etc.  I think you're well on your way to being able to "tap in" so to speak but it takes years of living "differently" from the fast-paced, consumerism, pop-culture mainstream....I think the brain develops more in adulthood than we fully recognize and especially for those who live with a mind independent, aware, and free from the shackles of our society.  I feel alienated sometimes but at the same time I hold respect for the fact that I'm still growing, still aware, and still thinking about things that I hold important even though the people around me don't.

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My theory is that psychedelics fire off synapses more rapidly, randomly and to areas of the brain that don't usually directly communicate.

I am not sure if the feeling of unity and oneness is real or an artifact of so many synapses firing off in unusual pathways or if the ego-dissolution is a real thing.

It sure feels real while you are going through it though.

Interesting study here from a Berkeley research program:

https://beckleyfoundation.org/the-brain-on-lsd-revealed-first-scans-show-how-the-drug-affects-the-brain/




Very interesting.  Yea...maybe it isn't completely random...the brain probably maintains some form of direction over that energy and maybe that's why we feel what we feel...the brain basically recognizes something with all the extra synapses that shows you it's all connected!  IDK.  That's a CRAZY picture of the brain on LSD though!!!  It's more lit up than any other drug pretty much....

...I always told people that I think you get "higher" on psychedelics than any other type of drug.


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Re: What Is Tripping? [Re: Nymphaea] * 1
    #26428942 - 01/11/20 11:12 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

The truth.


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Re: What Is Tripping? [Re: Nymphaea]
    #26428986 - 01/12/20 12:15 AM (4 years, 17 days ago)

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goes to show me how much appreciation I may be missing out on since the years have been passing behind me so swiftly.





Get back to actually tripping and recall how time and memory are amplified in hyperspace.  Yes you can sort of access it by thinking the right way and yes you really are never separated from it but in actual tripping it all becomes so much easier, more complete, more resonant.  It feels like a natural human ability - because it is.

It also gives you the ability to directly modify how your brain operates in sober reality, and that alone is a wonderful tool. :awesomenod:

Any time I take a long break (for whatever reason) and then return to tripping I always end up thinking "why the fuck did I ever stop doing this?" :cookiemonster:


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Re: What Is Tripping? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26429026 - 01/12/20 01:16 AM (4 years, 17 days ago)

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The truth.




I dig this. My smart ass one word answer was going to be "fun", but I like yours better. :sunny:

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Tripping = accessing the HTML code of "reality", to a degree IMHO.



I've always looked at it as being able to read between the lines. But that's a good analogy as well. Its def a hidden reality. Our sober minds just filter things out differently. It's all real in my opinion.




There's never been a better use of the term "between the lines"! :thumbup:


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Re: What Is Tripping? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26429036 - 01/12/20 01:39 AM (4 years, 17 days ago)

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Any time I take a long break (for whatever reason) and then return to tripping I always end up thinking "why the fuck did I ever stop doing this?" :cookiemonster:




What PrimalSoup said.
Or anytime the anxiety combined with personal events (arguing with the wife) conspire to persuade me not to trip that week....

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    #26429113 - 01/12/20 04:09 AM (4 years, 17 days ago)

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goes to show me how much appreciation I may be missing out on since the years have been passing behind me so swiftly.





Get back to actually tripping and recall how time and memory are amplified in hyperspace.  Yes you can sort of access it by thinking the right way and yes you really are never separated from it but in actual tripping it all becomes so much easier, more complete, more resonant.  It feels like a natural human ability - because it is.

It also gives you the ability to directly modify how your brain operates in sober reality, and that alone is a wonderful tool. :awesomenod:

Any time I take a long break (for whatever reason) and then return to tripping I always end up thinking "why the fuck did I ever stop doing this?" :cookiemonster:





Yea, it becomes more complete, more resonant when you are actually tripping for sure and it does amplify time and memory...

...I'm working on modifying how my brain operates in sober reality without the "trip".  I'm finding that challenge interesting and, well, challenging, but still fun.  I enjoy amplifying my time and memory while sober and modifying my brain too...I think I work on a lot of the same things I would when if I tripped but I don't need the tripping to get there...it might make it easier in some ways but I feel like I don't gain the ability to do it myself, all the time, which is the thing I am looking for in life right now....

...maybe when I've mastered myself I will see more of a reasoning to trip again but that may never happen.  I still want to hold my appreciation for it for the rest of my life because it is something special and it gets more special, just in a different way, as it falls further and further into my past...of course I lose some of the wonder that I once had for it and maybe that motivated me to make this thread...


....which turned out good because I'm seeing that my memory is missing some of the original wonder and amazement that I had when I was in the thick of it...


....obviously it is something that can't fully be explained.  I was very affected by "Be Here Now" and the perspective given by the guru in that book...and of course I was extremely affected by my own experiences of visions and rebirth and the journey that came afterwards as I fell into and then subsequently began recovery from a psychosis.  I'm still in the recovery/rebirth/journey part of all that and life is a trip every day now!  Which is wonderful and amazing, if not full of struggles and choices.

I am being motivated to modify my brain more though and that's something I was already focused in on for tomorrow!  I will be fasting and staying active and joyful all day! 

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Re: What Is Tripping? [Re: grati] * 1
    #26429183 - 01/12/20 06:21 AM (4 years, 17 days ago)

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Tripping. Hearing the music the way its meant to be heard. :smile:



I guess you're a beginner. Tripping is much more than that...




Of course, I'm a beginner at everything. Peace.


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    #26429233 - 01/12/20 07:08 AM (4 years, 17 days ago)

usually more than one thing at once is happening, but with tripping, each branch you follow goes further, more raw sensation, and more compelling associations and embellishments trailing off into tangents and fractals, and you can follow more than one direction of thought at the same time while other complete thoughts seem to hover without dissipation for a while. It is quite groovy when all the lingering tripped out ideas recombine meaningfully, but it is more likely that mere coincidence will become meaningful and surprising.

you could say it is a liberation, a cornucopia of mind and life,
or you could say it is distraction, and you may notice trippers entranced with the trails of their absorption into whatever is most interesting. They may seem duller, or they may seem elated, but ordinary reactions are delayed from those who are tripped out.

Mental absorption is certainly something that can be achieved without psychedelics, but it takes some application, and usually it is not like being chemically transformed into a more resonant, it less responsive person.


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