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Amanita86
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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Eminence]
#26425922 - 01/10/20 03:47 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I heard Tehran is the transgender capital of the world because being a man that transitions to a female and has sex with males is ok, but being a gay dude is hella off limits. So gay dudes pretend to be tranny.
To tell you the truth I think a lot of people just get off on talking shit on America because they get a little feel good, look at my wokeness, virtue tingle in their system. I think a lot of these people take things like rights for granted. Possibly because they’ve never been to a truly terrible place before.
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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Amanita86]
#26425936 - 01/10/20 04:06 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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LOL, no, it's beacause, as a 'nation' (TPTB there at least) America truly does suck in the eyes of a lot of the world. And I refer you to South Park:
Kyle All right, I've had just about enough of this! They told us in school, and on TV, that most people in Pakistan and Afghanistan like America. Boy in Blue Vest And you believe it? It is not just the Taliban that hates America. Over a third of the world hates America! Stan But why? Why does a third of the world hate us? Boy in Blue Vest Because, you don't realize that a third of the world hates you!!!
Having not travelled outside of America (especially o these 'terrible places' you speak of) I wouldn't expect you to understand it.
I'm not defending anyone here. I'm just telling you, having travelled far and wide in this world and having lived in America for a considerable period of time, how it is in the eyes of someone who wasn't born and raised there. This is not just my own observation I share, but the observations of the many I have encountered who have shared thier views on the subject with me.
Take that as thou wilt.
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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Amanita86] 1
#26425937 - 01/10/20 04:07 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's bizarre. But I fully agree with that, there's things to complain about America but much of the complaints by people here show how ignorant to the world they are. It's the same with Christianity. People will call christians bigots for their view on gays or women but will defend islam in the same breath. It makes zero sense unless it has to do with nothing more than "woke" points. I mean if you're going to criticize something like that have the balls or the principle to go all the way, be consistent and not only pick the easiest target. It's a real bitch move.
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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 3
#26425945 - 01/10/20 04:15 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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You almost sound like you're trying to imply that there are no terrible places in the world and none should be able to be criticized as a whole, unless it's America.
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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 5
#26425948 - 01/10/20 04:18 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lophosaurus said: Iran is a hateful country that funds terrorists and other hateful organizations. They want the US and the rest of the free world dead.
Your xenophobia, ignorance and stupidity make me want to vomit.
You're just plain uneducated. I feel really sorry for you, and I mean really really sorry. Get offline and go to college dude. Quote:
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Lophosaurus said: Iran is a hateful country that funds terrorists and other hateful organizations. They want the US and the rest of the free world dead.
Your xenophobia, ignorance and stupidity make me want to vomit.
More name calling too. Really mature way to be a Mod and act like an adult.
It seems obvious to everyone except you so here it is again.... Traveling does not make you smarter or better than anyone else.
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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Eminence]
#26425950 - 01/10/20 04:21 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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No, none should be critized as a whole. Full Stop.
But when I see some inexperienced, brainwashed, untravelled and uncultuired motherfucker shitting on another country they've never been to, I'm gonna call em on it.
Because it's fucking stupd. It's also racist and xenophobic and fuck and that's fucking shitty behaviour.
It's also unfortunate that America seems to have the largest percentage of brainwashed citizens. But then that's not the fault of the citizens themselves; that's TPTB cunts that have them singing the pledge of alleigance the moment they can fucking talk.
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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 3
#26425953 - 01/10/20 04:28 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: No, none should be critized as a whole. Full Stop.
But when I see some inexperienced, brainwashed, untravelled and uncultuired motherfucker shitting on another country they've never been to, I'm gonna call em on it.
Because it's fucking stupd. It's also racist and xenophobic and fuck and that's fucking shitty behaviour.
It's also unfortunate that America seems to have the largest percentage of brainwashed citizens. But then that's not the fault of the citizens themselves; that's TPTB cunts that have them singing the pledge of alleigance the moment they can fucking talk.
NO, it's none of those things. You have no idea what you're talking about and your hatered of America is blinding you. It has nothing to do with race or borders. It has to do with the way the Iranian government and most people act. The people there don't have much of a choice, but the government does.
Support whatever sick terrorist country you want to, but keep it to yourself.
Do you have any statistics for your dumb "brainwashing" comment? Why do you associate with us Americans if you think we're brainwashed? You are the hateful, brainwashed one, not the Americans. Go to the Iranian version of the Shroomery if you love them so much! Please
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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Lophosaurus]
#26425957 - 01/10/20 04:30 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Please know that you're talking to yourself at this point Loph. I already made it clear to you yesterday that I am not engaging with you.
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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 2
#26425965 - 01/10/20 04:40 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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You’re getting your worldview from South Park?
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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Eminence] 1
#26425972 - 01/10/20 04:44 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Eminence said: You almost sound like you're trying to imply that there are no terrible places in the world and none should be able to be criticized as a whole, unless it's America.
The superior European mindset.
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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: bodhisatta]
#26425984 - 01/10/20 04:59 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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On another board I frequent there is a Belgian fellow that rants and raves about how much he can't stand Germans. He can turn almost any conversation into a Germany hate fest.
I'm starting to think that when a country kicks your ass in a war enough times hate just gets in the DNA of the people or something.
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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: mycosis]
#26426000 - 01/10/20 05:14 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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mycosis said: On another board I frequent there is a Belgian fellow that rants and raves about how much he can't stand Germans. He can turn almost any conversation into a Germany hate fest.
I'm starting to think that when a country kicks your ass in a war enough times hate just gets in the DNA of the people or something. 
It does. The same with black supremacy.
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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Amanita86] 1
#26426001 - 01/10/20 05:15 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Amanita86 said: I heard Tehran is the transgender capital of the world because being a man that transitions to a female and has sex with males is ok, but being a gay dude is hella off limits. So gay dudes pretend to be tranny. ...
In Iran, gay or lesbian sex is punishable by the death penalty but an Islamic law was put in place that transitioning is a real thing so the government coerces people into transitioning with the threat of death as the alternative
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Later he moved to Canada and set up a support group, the Iranian Railroad for Queer Refugees. He says he receives hundreds of inquiries every week, and has helped nearly 1,000 people leave Iran over the past 10 years.
Some are fleeing to avoid gender reassignment surgery, but others have had treatment and find they still face prejudice. Parsi estimates that 45% of those who have had surgery are not transgender but gay.
"You know when you are 16 and they say you're in the wrong body, and it's very sweet... you think. 'Oh I finally worked out what's wrong with me,'" he says.
When one woman called him from Iran recently with questions about surgery, he asked her if she was transsexual or lesbian. She couldn't immediately answer - because no-one had ever told her what a "lesbian" was.
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29832690
noteworthy that this is not gay dudes "pretend(ing) to be tranny" as tranny is primarily used to refer to transvestites and transvestites are in violation of all sorts of additional lawbreaking issues due to cross-dressing while transgenderism isn't simply about clothing and some trans people argue that transvestites are basically a minstrel show against transgender individuals
core takeaway tho is to recognize that transgenderism is not considered "ok" at the social level of Iran's populace just in an abstract Islamic Fatwa
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Nahal smokes yet another cigarette on her mother’s balcony overlooking Tehran, one of the few peaceful places the 19-year-old transgender woman has in Iran, where her identity can bring harassment and prying, judging eyes on the street.
Nahal recalled how she had hardly started high school before being forced to leave over her classmates’ insistence she dress as a man. Her manicured fingernails, painted pink, brushed away her long brown hair as she looked through old photographs of her childhood, recounting how even her own family has struggled to accept her.
“I no longer see my relatives,” she said. “Maybe I’m a sign that if your own children will have a similar problem later, you can accept it.”
It shouldn’t be like this for Nahal in the Islamic Republic, which — perhaps to the surprise of those abroad — has perhaps the most open mindset in the Middle East toward transgender people. The Shiite theocracy’s founder, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, issued a religious decree, or fatwa, 30 years ago calling for respect of transgender people, opening the way for official support for gender transition surgery.
Nevertheless, the general public still harasses and abuses them, and families often shun them. Discrimination in the workplace has forced some into prostitution and others to kill themselves.
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The ruling clerics’ relative open-mindedness on transgender people hardly means tolerance of gender diversity. Homosexuality is illegal. Gay men can face the death penalty while lesbians can face flogging after three convictions and death for the fourth.
Iran’s former hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad famously told students at New York’s Columbia University in 2007: “In Iran we don’t have homosexuals like you do in your country.” A Human Rights Watch report in 2010 outlined how Iranian security forces allegedly abused those it suspected of being LGBT people, though Iranian officials have denied that.
In the ruling clerics’ view, gender reassignment surgery aims to cure a “disease” and re-fit a person into a recognized binary of straight male or straight female. Those who choose not to undergo surgery and get new documents can face arrest by police for dressing in a way that contradicts their government-recognized gender.
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But even with those caveats, the Islamic Republic’s stance opens a startling margin of space for transgender people.
It dates back to only a few years after the 1979 Islamic Revolution. A transgender woman, Maryam Khatoonpour Molkara, managed to push her way through the guards to meet Khomeini while dressed in men’s clothes. Molkara explained to the supreme leader how she felt her true gender was different from her physical sex. After consulting with doctors, Khomeini sanctioned gender-transition surgery in a groundbreaking fatwa.
Iran’s current supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, later gave Molkara a black veil to officially recognize her as a woman, upholding Khomeini’s fatwa, she said. She died in 2012 at the age of 62.
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But even in relatively politically liberal Tehran, Iranians remain highly conservative about sex and gender issues. Few understand what it means to be transgender.
“Social encounters are not good at all — verbal and physical abuse and harassment,” said Nahal. “Once even some people attacked and beat me.”
That’s what inspired Sanaz Bayan, a young director, to make “Blue Pink,” a stage show shedding light on the darkest corners of transgender life in Iran.
The play narrates real, often bitter stories, including one of a transgender woman forced by her father to go into Iran’s compulsory military service as a man.
Despite his show, Bayan thinks Iranian society as a whole isn’t ready to accept transgender people.
“More than 30 years have passed since Imam Khomeini issued the fatwa. ... Thirty years is more than enough for a rule to be realized and implemented,” she says. “Our society lacks the ability to accept minorities.”
https://apnews.com/a66b2167bb1744e6b12ba8ff1ef97c21
Fuck Iran and both their gay and trans discrimination
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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Eminence]
#26426018 - 01/10/20 05:35 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's bizarre. But I fully agree with that, there's things to complain about America but much of the complaints by people here show how ignorant to the world they are. It's the same with Christianity. People will call christians bigots for their view on gays or women but will defend islam in the same breath. It makes zero sense unless it has to do with nothing more than "woke" points. I mean if you're going to criticize something like that have the balls or the principle to go all the way, be consistent and not only pick the easiest target. It's a real bitch move.
Do not meet with the parameters listed in this, but personally make criticisms of Christianity as Christianity is the belief system surrounding my upbringing and also the structured community that ostracized and cut me out
think that happens to a lot of people, and they get bitter about it someone who is gay in the West may be chased from a Christian community while they never actually interact with Islamic communities beyond those already naturalized to Western society
this also seems to show up among athiests, tho there is typically a lot more antagonism towards religion on behalf of athiests and an interesting movement among the LGBTQ2+ community and (some) Christian communities to bridge the gap, while athiests have no interest in reconcilliation
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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: mycosis]
#26426090 - 01/10/20 07:16 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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mycosis said: Fair point. Airplanes do indeed crash from time to time.
Especially in certain parts of the world. It's kind of a Bermuda Triangle based on U.S. vital interests.
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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26426093 - 01/10/20 07:18 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: I really like some Americans. Hell, I fucking love some from the very bottom of my heart. They've changed my life, etc.
I especially like Americans that don't identify as being American.
Yeah, those guys are the best.
Me too, except that the bottom of my heart is cold and black.
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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26426986 - 01/10/20 05:52 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: No, none should be critized as a whole. Full Stop.
But when I see some inexperienced, brainwashed, untravelled and uncultuired motherfucker shitting on another country they've never been to, I'm gonna call em on it.
Because it's fucking stupd. It's also racist and xenophobic and fuck and that's fucking shitty behaviour.
It's also unfortunate that America seems to have the largest percentage of brainwashed citizens. But then that's not the fault of the citizens themselves; that's TPTB cunts that have them singing the pledge of alleigance the moment they can fucking talk.
I would've guessed North Korea had the highest percentage of brainwashed citizens. I've never been there personally to see it with my own eyes, but I've watched and read plenty about it.
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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Shroomslip]
#26427000 - 01/10/20 06:02 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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So Koods bashed on Trump saying he started a war.
Wrong as always
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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Patlal] 2
#26427074 - 01/10/20 06:40 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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He failed to start a war, but he tried.
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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: 1234go]
#26427081 - 01/10/20 06:45 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was sitting back waiting for something to instigate it further, but he definitely could've tried harder if he really wanted a war.
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