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Help: anxious friend - should I give her mushrooms?
#26426401 - 01/10/20 12:14 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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Hey, quick, possibly rather dumb one: I promised my friend mushrooms tonight, but she’s been saying she feels very anxious and a bit depressed today (she suffers from some bad anxiety sometimes) - should I still give her mushrooms? Me, it helps my anxiety, but I don’t know whether it’s safe giving it to her... HELP, please?
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Re: Help: anxious friend - should I give her mushrooms? [Re: IntoTheMaelstrom]
#26426404 - 01/10/20 12:17 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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The answer is yes, but only if you’re up for being her guide. You gotta create a good set & setting and her anxiety will dissolve, not to be seen again for at least a week or two.
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Re: Help: anxious friend - should I give her mushrooms? [Re: IntoTheMaelstrom]
#26426405 - 01/10/20 12:17 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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In a word. No!
Try her with some lemon balm tea, see how she calms down first.
Good,luck, DJ Ed.
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Re: Help: anxious friend - should I give her mushrooms? [Re: DJ Ed]
#26426410 - 01/10/20 12:25 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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“Try her with some lemon balm tea” - yeah right :/ knowing her, if I promised her shrooms and, instead, gave her tea, she’d probably throw it at my face and scald me pretty badly -.-‘ Chocolate might be a better option... maybe... hopefully at least...
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Re: Help: anxious friend - should I give her mushrooms? [Re: DJ Ed]
#26426411 - 01/10/20 12:25 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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I'm assuming this is her first time?
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Re: Help: anxious friend - should I give her mushrooms? [Re: feldman114]
#26426416 - 01/10/20 12:28 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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Hopefully neither of us will end up in the morgue tonight -.-‘
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Re: Help: anxious friend - should I give her mushrooms? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
#26426418 - 01/10/20 12:29 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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Yip -.-‘
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Re: Help: anxious friend - should I give her mushrooms? [Re: IntoTheMaelstrom]
#26426419 - 01/10/20 12:30 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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Oh stop it, not like you’re gonna give her a heroic dose.....riiight?
I’d stick to 2g
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Re: Help: anxious friend - should I give her mushrooms? [Re: IntoTheMaelstrom]
#26426426 - 01/10/20 12:33 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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IntoTheMaelstrom said: “Try her with some lemon balm tea” - yeah right :/ knowing her, if I promised her shrooms and, instead, gave her tea, she’d probably throw it at my face and scald me pretty badly -.-‘ Chocolate might be a better option... maybe... hopefully at least...
Sorry fella, think I need to explain!
Dosed 3.6g dry GTeachers tonight. But they’re obviously poor genetics. I’m getting something, but not what I’d say is a trip! A few things are off though: poor mushroom genetics, first time I’ve dried mushrooms in a dehydrator, had a strong coffee beforehand, nd infused the mushroom tea with lemon balm tea (which I’ve never tried before)
I now have headache dude. The lemon balm has definitely calmed me down, ie come up anxiety. That’s why I suggested that. Kicks in in 15mmins.
If she’s like me, the come up anxiety can be quite overwhelming for a first timer, nd if she’s anxious to begin with, thought it might just enhance that anxiety. Usually when you peak, the anxiety goes, but for a first timer, who knows.
Good luck, DJ Ed
p.s. My iPad screen is really bright!1
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Re: Help: anxious friend - should I give her mushrooms? [Re: DJ Ed]
#26426626 - 01/10/20 02:01 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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I believe everyone has a weird anxiety thing with the comeup. Shit, even right before I take my dose my anxiety is pretty high. This is normal imho. She may feel anxious and feel like she does not want to do it - but just like myself, I'm usually always glad I did.. and ironically always wish I had taken more.
I just deal with the anxiety with breath work and trying to keep the positivity to an all time high - whether it be music or just looking at something calming. If I didn't take mushrooms every time I had anxiety prior, I wouldn't know what a mushroom trip is
Just because things seem a little off prior to tripping, doesn't always mean things will be off intra-trip. This also works the other way around - mushrooms are just extremely unpredictable. But, in the end.. all is safe and you'll be watching over her.
Just give her a taste. 1.5/2g... make the setting as calm, cool and collective.. and let the good times roll. Easier to stay in a brighter side of mindset when someone is with you. Darker trips usually tend to happen on higher doses and while you're alone - but I guess some shitty thoughts can come roaming around on smaller doses as well - just be a good distraction in the means of helping her have a better trip. Laughter, good music.. maybe go and buy some chocolate and snacks and taste the difference between some of your favorite foods while tripping!!
That's always been a good time. Nothing like a big glass of ice water and a bunch of snacks to taste test while rolling dick
I'm sure all will be fine - just don't be stupid.. and I have a feeling you won't be because your intentions are being shown through this thread.
Good luck!!
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Re: Help: anxious friend - should I give her mushrooms? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
#26426629 - 01/10/20 02:05 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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A little alcohol buzz goes a long way to easing that anxiety during come up I don't meen get drunk just a good buzz really helps the whole process your first couple times until you get a feel for what's going on. Just my opinion but it helped me a lot
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Re: Help: anxious friend - should I give her mushrooms? [Re: IntoTheMaelstrom]
#26426636 - 01/10/20 02:10 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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Her attitude is gonna get her fucked by the shrooms
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Re: Help: anxious friend - should I give her mushrooms? [Re: The Mycologist]
#26426646 - 01/10/20 02:15 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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Mmm idk. Shrooms tend to overpower any “attitudes” one has. ESPECIALLY that first trip. There’s nothing like it, really
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Re: Help: anxious friend - should I give her mushrooms? [Re: IntoTheMaelstrom]
#26426688 - 01/10/20 02:44 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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NO. Unless you give .5-1g ONLY! And I DO NOT suggest you do that. There may underlying mental stresses and issues you or her know about that can be brought out by the mushroom trip. She is not you, and you are not her. Why are all these people thinking mushrooms can cure all these mental ailments? They ARE NOT FOR EVERYONE!
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Re: Help: anxious friend - should I give her mushrooms? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26426696 - 01/10/20 02:50 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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Cures my anxiety like a charm, at least for a few days🤷🏻♂️
1.5-2g is super euphoric too, compared to higher doses.
Benefits>Risks IF he’s a good sitter.
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Re: Help: anxious friend - should I give her mushrooms? [Re: IntoTheMaelstrom] 1
#26426821 - 01/10/20 04:02 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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I have her 1g and we’ve been laughing nonstop for hours, bit stressed here and there because she’s worried she might not be able to sleep but nothing unmanageable, so far so good
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Re: Help: anxious friend - should I give her mushrooms? [Re: IntoTheMaelstrom]
#26426829 - 01/10/20 04:09 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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IntoTheMaelstrom said: I have her 1g and we’ve been laughing nonstop for hours, bit stressed here and there because she’s worried she might not be able to sleep but nothing unmanageable, so far so good 
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IntoTheMaelstrom said: I have her 1g and we’ve been laughing nonstop for hours, bit stressed here and there because she’s worried she might not be able to sleep but nothing unmanageable, so far so good 
I was going to say a gram would be perfect maybe 1.5, when you look at the studies regarding psilocybin research, pretty much noone has any anxiety or extreme fear from low doses of shrooms.
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Re: Help: anxious friend - should I give her mushrooms? [Re: 330ci]
#26426989 - 01/10/20 05:53 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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Yeah because you can't drown when your toes are barely in the water
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Re: Help: anxious friend - should I give her mushrooms? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
#26426999 - 01/10/20 06:01 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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Idk my first psychedelic experience consisted of me driving 1000 miles across the country in my convertible with my best friend to go to a concert in a cave and we popped a few shrooms and a tab of acid after camping in mammoth caverns the night before and hiking at a few waterfalls before the rave. it was one of the greatest experiences of my life, and I'm glad I held it in an almost ceremonious fashion. not saying everyone should, but waiting your whole life to do something just to half ass it with some dude in his apartment is lame as shit no need to take a ton of shrooms to exacerbate that experience. Grams perfect
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Re: Help: anxious friend - should I give her mushrooms? [Re: 330ci]
#26427547 - 01/11/20 05:04 AM (4 years, 18 days ago) |
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330ci said: Idk my first psychedelic experience consisted of me driving 1000 miles across the country in my convertible with my best friend to go to a concert in a cave and we popped a few shrooms and a tab of acid after camping in mammoth caverns the night before and hiking at a few waterfalls before the rave. it was one of the greatest experiences of my life, and I'm glad I held it in an almost ceremonious fashion. not saying everyone should, but waiting your whole life to do something just to half ass it with some dude in his apartment is lame as shit no need to take a ton of shrooms to exacerbate that experience. Grams perfect
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Re: Help: anxious friend - should I give her mushrooms? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
#26427656 - 01/11/20 07:32 AM (4 years, 18 days ago) |
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She’s had the same after-shroom effect as me the first time, like sad due to like seeing things around her clearly but not anxious as she normally is (clinically so), so hopefully she’ll experience the same lower stress “therapeutic” effect as myself.
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Re: Help: anxious friend - should I give her mushrooms? [Re: IntoTheMaelstrom]
#26427661 - 01/11/20 07:45 AM (4 years, 18 days ago) |
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IntoTheMaelstrom said: “Try her with some lemon balm tea” - yeah right :/ knowing her, if I promised her shrooms and, instead, gave her tea, she’d probably throw it at my face and scald me pretty badly -.-‘ Chocolate might be a better option... maybe... hopefully at least...
Hey dude, I’m sober now! Had been trying to trip last night but must have been poor genetics. Fucked up my vision and I couldn’t get to sleep though. But here’s the deal; I tried lemon balm tea. Not sure I’d ever take it again because basically it knocked me out for an hour. Maybe that’s why people recommend taking it for come-up anxiety, I.e. you’re not really present for the first hour, when thenlemon balm wears off, you’re tripping balls.....
Take care, DJ Ed
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Re: Help: anxious friend - should I give her mushrooms? [Re: DJ Ed]
#26427663 - 01/11/20 07:46 AM (4 years, 18 days ago) |
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Oh and the other thing that’s occurred to me; maybe the lemon balm teabag soaked up the psilocin and psilocybin from the tea and that’s why they were so weak. Going to try some more of that batch next week, without the lemon balm......
Mush love, DJ Ed
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Re: Help: anxious friend - should I give her mushrooms? [Re: DJ Ed]
#26428273 - 01/11/20 02:43 PM (4 years, 18 days ago) |
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Anytime you wanna add a tea bag off somthing to your mush tea you make the normal tea first then take that and make mush tea with it after removing the tea bag or ball whatever your using.
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Re: Help: anxious friend - should I give her mushrooms? [Re: Hillbillyjohn]
#26428419 - 01/11/20 03:58 PM (4 years, 18 days ago) |
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Hillbillyjohn said: Anytime you wanna add a tea bag off somthing to your mush tea you make the normal tea first then take that and make mush tea with it after removing the tea bag or ball whatever your using.
I think I’ve now realised that. It’s obvious really. I thought the mushrooms looked really healthy, so couldn’t work out why it was so poor!
Cheers, DJ Ed
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