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So turns out my mom is a huge racist
#26424294 - 01/09/20 10:05 AM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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Idk if it was always in her or if it’s a recent thing but, yeah, mom’s a big ol’ bigot. First noticed it last year and it’s been bugging me since. She was driving me from the eye doctor and, out of nowhere, it’s all “mesikins this, blacks that”, “When is Trump finally gonna get rid of all these mesikins?”
Thing is, she’s an immigrant who came over to the states on refugee status. I spent my childhood listening to how she kept getting fired and kicked out of places for being Jewish (in the USSR).
I tried talking to her multiple times, but she just answers with more right-wing craziness. I’m no freedom warrior, but it’s making me hate being around my own mother, and I know she doesn’t have that much time left anyway... I’m even wary of letting her babysit her own grandkid.
Anyone going through a similar situation? Did you find a way to deal with it? Any advice?
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: feldman114]
#26424310 - 01/09/20 10:13 AM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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Advice? What did you have in mind? Racism doesn't develop overnight, she was probably always a little racist. As far as your kid goes, that's your choice. I think as long as you've established tolerance and you've addressed the subject of racism, it's not like she will turn him/her into a racist overnight either. It's that kind of thinking that leads people to put their kids in Christian school, which any one who isn't a moron knows doesn't do shit
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: feldman114]
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Anyone going through a similar situation? I've been dealing with this my whole life. My parents are not racist but their parents sure the hell were. They were always talking down to and about non-whites. My great grandfather was the worst. Back in the 1930s and 40s, he personally assisted the police with murdering black folk and burning their bodies in ditches. I remember as a wee lad visiting him once and he was tying to find something to watch on TV. He tried to watch wrestling (his favorite show) and changed the channel because of too many black people. He then tried to watch football but too many black people. He tried to watch Wheel of Fortune and all the contestants were black. He angrily turned of his TV and angrily said, They've taken over everything!" My current main squeeze's family are just as bad.
Did you find a way to deal with it? Trying to talk or reason with any of these people on this matter turned out to be a complete waste of time. I often change the subject, ignore them or sneak into the bathroom and toke a doob.
Any advice? Invite your mother to an Afrocentric pool party or Mesikin fiesta! I wished I would have orchestrated a fake marriage with one of "those people" and caused heart attacks and being cut from the family.
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: Dilsnique]
#26424335 - 01/09/20 10:28 AM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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Holy shit they burned bodies in ditches? That’s pretty hardcore.
Feldman, I would be curious where the line between ‘racist’ and just a product of the USSR lays at. I know that sorta doesn’t make sense or a difference but it sort or does. A curiosity thing. I’d probably just be weary about leaving the kid alone with her unsupervised.
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: bloodsheen] 1
#26424342 - 01/09/20 10:31 AM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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Not much you can do. You choose your friends but not your family. Depending on the the level of trust in your relationship with her you could tell her that you don't want to hear anything demeaning about other people when she is talking in your presence and much less when your kid is around. You will not change her but you can set your boundaries.
You will need to talk to your child. It is actually a unique opportunity to teach him/her that these people exist. Hopefully your kid has some friends who are not caucasian too. Because that will help your kid understand that color of the skin doesn't matter. You may have to talk to your child every time he/she goes to grandma just to make sure she is not pushing her ideas on your child.
It also happens that people put all kind of garbage in their heads through the internet and talk radio Maybe she wasn't racist but in other aspects of her life she was intolerant in other ways. That could've opened the door for her to embrace bigotry.
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: VP123]
#26424354 - 01/09/20 10:36 AM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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Funny story. When I was a little kid my parents took me somewhere and for whatever reason they interacted with this bigass black dude. And when we got back into the car my dad said "Did you notice anything different about that man we were talking to?" And I said "Well yeah. He was totally bald!" Nobody is born racist, it's how they are raised.
I agree that it might be a good idea to just say, hey keep your thoughts on race to yourself around my kid and we are cool. But actually having a legit convo about it will make you even angrier
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: bloodsheen] 2
#26424409 - 01/09/20 11:06 AM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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I think people feel a lot freer to voice their racism because Trump has made it less taboo to be a bigot and act like a fool
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: feldman114]
#26424449 - 01/09/20 11:25 AM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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Anyone going through a similar situation? Did you find a way to deal with it? Any advice?
I feel ya man. I too am waiting for Trump to get rid of all those pesky Mesikins
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: Tripsurfer]
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Does she still care about YOU? cos, I mean, Id rather have a racist mother than a narcissistic sociopathic one.....
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: Dilsnique]
#26424474 - 01/09/20 11:36 AM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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TheStallionMang said: I think people feel a lot freer to voice their racism because Trump has made it less taboo to be a bigot and act like a fool
I honestly think there’s at least some truth to this. Like I said, I first heard a racist comment from her only a year ago.Quote:
Amanita86 said: Holy shit they burned bodies in ditches? That’s pretty hardcore.
Feldman, I would be curious where the line between ‘racist’ and just a product of the USSR lays at. I know that sorta doesn’t make sense or a difference but it sort or does. A curiosity thing. I’d probably just be weary about leaving the kid alone with her unsupervised.
Well the USSR was never that racist, just anti-Semitic and anti-Roma. Not obsessed with race like the US seems to be at times anyway...(obv USSR life was shitty and just horrific, just not in this way) Growing up, I never even thought about black people as a minority. Kyiv is full of African college students and business people, so 99% of the black people there are successful, well-off people. The only black stereotype that exists in Ukraine is “they’re all rich spoiled brats”, and only cause it’s kinda true for 90% of the students - rich Ukrainians send their kids to study in Europe, and rich Nigerian/Ethiopian families send kids to Ukrainian colleges.
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Dilsnique said: Anyone going through a similar situation? I've been dealing with this my whole life. My parents are not racist but their parents sure the hell were. They were always talking down to and about non-whites. My great grandfather was the worst. Back in the 1930s and 40s, he personally assisted the police with murdering black folk and burning their bodies in ditches. I remember as a wee lad visiting him once and he was tying to find something to watch on TV. He tried to watch wrestling (his favorite show) and changed the channel because of too many black people. He then tried to watch football but too many black people. He tried to watch Wheel of Fortune and all the contestants were black. He angrily turned of his TV and angrily said, They've taken over everything!" My current main squeeze's family are just as bad.
Did you find a way to deal with it? Trying to talk or reason with any of these people on this matter turned out to be a complete waste of time. I often change the subject, ignore them or sneak into the bathroom and toke a doob.
Any advice? Invite your mother to an Afrocentric pool party or Mesikin fiesta! I wished I would have orchestrated a fake marriage with one of "those people" and caused heart attacks and being cut from the family.
Ugh that sounds super cringe. And I totally agree that talking to them and using logic is useless. I just end up extremely pissed off and exhausted afterwards. Haha might borrow your fiesta idea! The wife never skips the block parties during the warm season...I’ll just say it’s a “Caribbean theme” party lol.
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: feldman114] 1
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The only thing to do is repent for having white bigot family members! Make sure you make friends with minorities and really let them know they’re different, but that’s ok!
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: spirit_shadow]
#26424486 - 01/09/20 11:42 AM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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spirit_shadow said: Does she still care about YOU? cos, I mean, Id rather have a racist mother than a narcissistic sociopathic one.....
Idk, I guess. It’s always been more about stuff I did that she can brag about with her stuck up friends.
Compared to most of my friends, my relationship with my mom is super fucked up, but I still cherish it. I just really hope I’ll remember all the good times and not the racist talk when...you know. I was an angry teenager growing up and left home on my 18th bday, but 20 years later - when all I have left for her is love and gratitude - she goes and gives me real reasons to stay away.
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: feldman114]
#26424496 - 01/09/20 11:49 AM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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I don't blame you for being upset at all. I would be as well. I just had to cut my mother out of my life I just hope yours isn't as shit.
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: feldman114] 2
#26424498 - 01/09/20 11:50 AM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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Your moms a little racist so what. sad youre actually thinking about distancing you and your kid from her over it. If one of my family members says something racist I just laugh, its not like theyre planning on hurting anyone. If its so bothersome to your righteous sensibilities maybe try having a talk with her about it. just be prepared that she might show you some unsettling statistics on IQ, race and crime.
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mt cleverest said: Your moms a little racist so what. sad youre actually thinking about distancing you and your kid from her over it. If one of my family members says something racist I just laugh, its not like theyre planning on hurting anyone. If its so bothersome to your righteous sensibilities maybe try having a talk with her about it. just be prepared that she might show you some unsettling statistics on IQ, race and crime.
Sounds like you're a little racist yourself
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: bloodsheen]
#26424521 - 01/09/20 12:09 PM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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Dude, she's still your mom. Maybe not the perfect example of motherhood. Parents raise children and put limits on their behavior. As the children become adults and the parents age, the roles turn around. Certainly you are not going to put her in time out, but you no longer depend on her. Draw the line about what you don't want to hear. If she crosses it, walk away and tell her you'll come back when she stops that. You don't need to distance yourself from her forever, but you can leave her alone as many times as needed to make her understand that if she wants a relationship with you, she needs to show restrain. For the relationship to work, both of you have to feel comfortable around each other.
And as you noticed it was just a matter of time for people to get triggered here and come in support of your mom's ideas and behavior. Just mention mexicans and some people get triggered. Weird!
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: bloodsheen]
#26424547 - 01/09/20 12:20 PM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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Is it racist to laugh at black jokes?
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: feldman114]
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spirit_shadow said: Does she still care about YOU? cos, I mean, Id rather have a racist mother than a narcissistic sociopathic one.....
Idk, I guess. It’s always been more about stuff I did that she can brag about with her stuck up friends.
Compared to most of my friends, my relationship with my mom is super fucked up, but I still cherish it. I just really hope I’ll remember all the good times and not the racist talk when...you know. I was an angry teenager growing up and left home on my 18th bday, but 20 years later - when all I have left for her is love and gratitude - she goes and gives me real reasons to stay away.
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: Thayendanegea]
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Thayendanegea said: Live and let live comes to mind.
Doesn't work too well if you come from an emotionally abusive household though.
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: chibiabos]
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: koods]
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: koods]
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koods said: Does she watch Fox News all day? That shit will change people.
You guessed it. But I think it’s only because no one else says good things about trump. She’s liberal on 90% of key issues, but voted for trump. Pretty sure that a lot of potential democrats voted republican cause they had a racist candidate
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: feldman114]
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I have seen people years ago who HATED trump that now think he is perfect.....koods is onto the real mk ultra
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: feldman114]
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My girlfriend's dad is one of the most racist people I've ever met.
We were sitting at the dinner table a while back and he said something to which I cannot even remember now but I told him a lot of people would say that was a racist statement.
He put his fork down, looked me in the eye and said, "Yeah? Last I heard this was still a free country and it isn't illegal to be racist."
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: feldman114]
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I think there's a spectrum of racism. On one end you have reasonable concern based on statistics and retaining culture, on the other you have violence. I think as long as that person doesn't let their opinions treat others differently, even in conversation, then it's harmless. Would she cast an evil eye at someone for being ethnic? Ignore a simple greeting or door held for her? Would she take advantage of one of those people, casting different social values upon them? If the answer is no, then she's perfectly harmless.
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mycosis said: My girlfriend's dad is one of the most racist people I've ever met.
We were sitting at the dinner table a while back and he said something to which I cannot even remember now but I told him a lot of people would say that was a racist statement.
He put his fork down, looked me in the eye and said, "Yeah? Last I heard this was still a free country and it isn't illegal to be racist."

The two worst people to try to talk to are racists and Christians. I'm not sure what the link is but IME no matter what one of them says you should just smile and nod or try to change the subject. They haven't considered any other viewpoints and they don't plan to
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I say the worst 2 types of people to talk to are racists and atheists, and jews in 3rd place.
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: mt cleverest]
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mt cleverest said: I say the worst 2 types of people to talk to are racists and atheists, and jews in 3rd place.
Ahhh, so anti-Semitism is your bag. Alrite, makes sense
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mt cleverest said: I say the worst 2 types of people to talk to are racists and atheists, and jews in 3rd place.
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: mt cleverest]
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mt cleverest said: Is it racist to laugh at black jokes?
When black people tell jokes they are for other black people to laugh at only. Stop cultural appropriating.
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I think the races should all mix so that cultural divisions dissolve. But other people should work that out, I have a hard enough time relating to people from my own culture.
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mt cleverest said: I say the worst 2 types of people to talk to are racists and atheists, and jews in 3rd place.
Kids are the worst. Always complaining about missing their mommy and how the ropes are too tight
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: koods]
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theres a spectrum to stereotype
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: sideroxylon]
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My dad hasn’t said a racist thing since the day he died. Jk. I mean he’s dead but he wasn’t racist. My mom is more liberal than me
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: koods]
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My mom is that ‘well meaning’ sort of racist like she was telling me one time about a lady she worked with and said something like “I don’t even think of her as black”. Like she always manages to take it just a weeee step too far, twist it around and make it back handed.
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: bloodsheen]
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I believe it's because both types of people are overly judgmental and have deeply rooted beliefs based on misconceptions while at the same time convince themselves that anyone who doesn't feel the same way is wrong
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: chibiabos]
#26426111 - 01/10/20 07:37 AM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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Thayendanegea said: Live and let live comes to mind.
Doesn't work too well if you come from an emotionally abusive household though.
Then you get a job and GTFO.
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feldman114
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: Thayendanegea]
#26426122 - 01/10/20 07:50 AM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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chibiabos said:
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Thayendanegea said: Live and let live comes to mind.
Doesn't work too well if you come from an emotionally abusive household though.
Then you get a job and GTFO.
Or or OOOR, you start selling droogz cause minimum wage doesn’t get you an apartment and you have no credit yet. Then you slowly graduate from organic to other droogz, start using, lose everything you made and live on the streets for months...until you finally break down and crawl back to your control-freak parents, more miserable than ever. You stay with them as long as you can take the bs, but one fateful day you decide it’s too much and go overseas to be a freedom warrior in a country you haven’t seen for 15 years.
Just another imaginary scenario. Nothing to see here...
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: feldman114]
#26426163 - 01/10/20 08:26 AM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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Maybe ask your mother for the specifics on why she feels the way she does and the experiences that led up to her current outlook.
Are you dismissing her prejudgments as completely racist without giving her a chance to explain herself?
Everyone person makes prejudgments on every environment or person they come into contact with, it's impossible not to prejudge. You're obviously frustrated with your mothers prejudgments based on race and ethnic status, but are giving yourself a free pass on the prejudgments you make in your own life?
Either way, I wouldn't let this one small disagreement in life alter the relationship with your mother. It's not worth it.
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feldman114
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: qman]
#26426188 - 01/10/20 08:49 AM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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qman said: Maybe ask your mother for the specifics on why she feels the way she does and the experiences that led up to her current outlook.
Are you dismissing her prejudgments as completely racist without giving her a chance to explain herself?
Everyone person makes prejudgments on every environment or person they come into contact with, it's impossible not to prejudge. You're obviously frustrated with your mothers prejudgments based on race and ethnic status, but are giving yourself a free pass on the prejudgments you make in your own life?
Either way, I wouldn't let this one small disagreement in life alter the relationship with your mother. It's not worth it.
It’s impossible to have a conversation because everything she says is trump’s words. I asked why and the answers I got were just more stereotypes.
Goes something like: “What have Mexican people ever done to you?” “They’re coming here stealing jobs, mooching of MY tax dollars.” “But mom, you’re an immigrant and we were on food stamps for almost 2 years when we moved here.” “That was different cause we’re good people and we belong here.”
Or: “Mom, when you start getting racial it makes me want to get up and go home. Can we just avoid the subject?” “It’s not my fault, you know how THEY are. You have to be careful around them, most of them are gang members and they all just want to stay on the drugs.” *meanwhile, she failed to notice my year-long amph addiction when I was living in her house years ago* “That’s the kind of thing I’m asking you to keep to yourself.” “Oh what? Just because I’m white, I can’t talk about race? You know THEY talk about US all the time and no one says a thing,”
Crazy part is, her demographic is sooo liberal. She was a single mom with 2 kids; she’s a nurse at a city hospital; she’s an atheist; she has been a victim of discrimination (way back in USSR); and she’s against guns, pro-choice, anti-war, etc. Nothing like a “typical” American racist, but echoing the same rhetoric...
Still...even after everything...I just can’t find it in me to cut off contact or ignore her....that’s my mom man, ya know?
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bloodsheen
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: feldman114]
#26426259 - 01/10/20 09:59 AM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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See, case in point. You cant talk to them qman. If you don't believe that then I guess you still have hope and good for you. But you are wrong. Whether he should let it destroy a relationship is another matter entirely
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: feldman114]
#26426280 - 01/10/20 10:16 AM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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Hell yeah tell her to come to OTD.
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psi
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: feldman114] 3
#26426294 - 01/10/20 10:29 AM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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Get her on to something relatively harmless like Youtube flat earth vids.
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spirit_shadow
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: psi]
#26426369 - 01/10/20 11:42 AM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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psi said: Get her on to something relatively harmless like Youtube flat earth vids.
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Dilsnique
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: SporeJunkie]
#26426598 - 01/10/20 01:48 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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SporeJunkie said: Hell yeah tell her to come to OTD.
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qman
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: feldman114]
#26426653 - 01/10/20 02:19 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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feldman114 said:
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qman said: Maybe ask your mother for the specifics on why she feels the way she does and the experiences that led up to her current outlook.
Are you dismissing her prejudgments as completely racist without giving her a chance to explain herself?
Everyone person makes prejudgments on every environment or person they come into contact with, it's impossible not to prejudge. You're obviously frustrated with your mothers prejudgments based on race and ethnic status, but are giving yourself a free pass on the prejudgments you make in your own life?
Either way, I wouldn't let this one small disagreement in life alter the relationship with your mother. It's not worth it.
It’s impossible to have a conversation because everything she says is trump’s words. I asked why and the answers I got were just more stereotypes.
Goes something like: “What have Mexican people ever done to you?” “They’re coming here stealing jobs, mooching of MY tax dollars.” “But mom, you’re an immigrant and we were on food stamps for almost 2 years when we moved here.” “That was different cause we’re good people and we belong here.”
Or: “Mom, when you start getting racial it makes me want to get up and go home. Can we just avoid the subject?” “It’s not my fault, you know how THEY are. You have to be careful around them, most of them are gang members and they all just want to stay on the drugs.” *meanwhile, she failed to notice my year-long amph addiction when I was living in her house years ago* “That’s the kind of thing I’m asking you to keep to yourself.” “Oh what? Just because I’m white, I can’t talk about race? You know THEY talk about US all the time and no one says a thing,”
Crazy part is, her demographic is sooo liberal. She was a single mom with 2 kids; she’s a nurse at a city hospital; she’s an atheist; she has been a victim of discrimination (way back in USSR); and she’s against guns, pro-choice, anti-war, etc. Nothing like a “typical” American racist, but echoing the same rhetoric...
Still...even after everything...I just can’t find it in me to cut off contact or ignore her....that’s my mom man, ya know?
To be fair to your mother, illegals DO dilute wages and steal jobs from US citizens. It really doesn't matter if they're from Mexico or Russia. Immigrants are also a massive burden on the US taxpayer, again it shouldn't matter where they're from, it's just economic reality. 
The fact that your mother was also an immigrant doesn't change the reality. Does it make her hypocritical? Yes, but that still doesn't change the validity of her argument.
As far as the criminal aspect, she is correct again. Illegals are part of the gang problem in the US. Again, it doesn't matter if they're Mexican or Russian.
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RJ Tubs 202


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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: feldman114]
#26426789 - 01/10/20 03:46 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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Appreciate your mom is human and that we all have our issues. Maybe just let her be instead of trying to change her.
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spirit_shadow
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#26426799 - 01/10/20 03:51 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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Learn spanish then respond to her as often as possible in spanish thus subliminally teaching her in the process. That will show her
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