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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: Thayendanegea]
#26426122 - 01/10/20 07:50 AM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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Thayendanegea said: Live and let live comes to mind.
Doesn't work too well if you come from an emotionally abusive household though.
Then you get a job and GTFO.
Or or OOOR, you start selling droogz cause minimum wage doesn’t get you an apartment and you have no credit yet. Then you slowly graduate from organic to other droogz, start using, lose everything you made and live on the streets for months...until you finally break down and crawl back to your control-freak parents, more miserable than ever. You stay with them as long as you can take the bs, but one fateful day you decide it’s too much and go overseas to be a freedom warrior in a country you haven’t seen for 15 years.
Just another imaginary scenario. Nothing to see here...
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: feldman114]
#26426163 - 01/10/20 08:26 AM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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Maybe ask your mother for the specifics on why she feels the way she does and the experiences that led up to her current outlook.
Are you dismissing her prejudgments as completely racist without giving her a chance to explain herself?
Everyone person makes prejudgments on every environment or person they come into contact with, it's impossible not to prejudge. You're obviously frustrated with your mothers prejudgments based on race and ethnic status, but are giving yourself a free pass on the prejudgments you make in your own life?
Either way, I wouldn't let this one small disagreement in life alter the relationship with your mother. It's not worth it.
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: qman]
#26426188 - 01/10/20 08:49 AM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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qman said: Maybe ask your mother for the specifics on why she feels the way she does and the experiences that led up to her current outlook.
Are you dismissing her prejudgments as completely racist without giving her a chance to explain herself?
Everyone person makes prejudgments on every environment or person they come into contact with, it's impossible not to prejudge. You're obviously frustrated with your mothers prejudgments based on race and ethnic status, but are giving yourself a free pass on the prejudgments you make in your own life?
Either way, I wouldn't let this one small disagreement in life alter the relationship with your mother. It's not worth it.
It’s impossible to have a conversation because everything she says is trump’s words. I asked why and the answers I got were just more stereotypes.
Goes something like: “What have Mexican people ever done to you?” “They’re coming here stealing jobs, mooching of MY tax dollars.” “But mom, you’re an immigrant and we were on food stamps for almost 2 years when we moved here.” “That was different cause we’re good people and we belong here.”
Or: “Mom, when you start getting racial it makes me want to get up and go home. Can we just avoid the subject?” “It’s not my fault, you know how THEY are. You have to be careful around them, most of them are gang members and they all just want to stay on the drugs.” *meanwhile, she failed to notice my year-long amph addiction when I was living in her house years ago* “That’s the kind of thing I’m asking you to keep to yourself.” “Oh what? Just because I’m white, I can’t talk about race? You know THEY talk about US all the time and no one says a thing,”
Crazy part is, her demographic is sooo liberal. She was a single mom with 2 kids; she’s a nurse at a city hospital; she’s an atheist; she has been a victim of discrimination (way back in USSR); and she’s against guns, pro-choice, anti-war, etc. Nothing like a “typical” American racist, but echoing the same rhetoric...
Still...even after everything...I just can’t find it in me to cut off contact or ignore her....that’s my mom man, ya know?
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: feldman114]
#26426259 - 01/10/20 09:59 AM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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See, case in point. You cant talk to them qman. If you don't believe that then I guess you still have hope and good for you. But you are wrong. Whether he should let it destroy a relationship is another matter entirely
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: feldman114]
#26426280 - 01/10/20 10:16 AM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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Hell yeah tell her to come to OTD.
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: feldman114] 3
#26426294 - 01/10/20 10:29 AM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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Get her on to something relatively harmless like Youtube flat earth vids.
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: psi]
#26426369 - 01/10/20 11:42 AM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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psi said: Get her on to something relatively harmless like Youtube flat earth vids.
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: SporeJunkie]
#26426598 - 01/10/20 01:48 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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SporeJunkie said: Hell yeah tell her to come to OTD.
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: feldman114]
#26426653 - 01/10/20 02:19 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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qman said: Maybe ask your mother for the specifics on why she feels the way she does and the experiences that led up to her current outlook.
Are you dismissing her prejudgments as completely racist without giving her a chance to explain herself?
Everyone person makes prejudgments on every environment or person they come into contact with, it's impossible not to prejudge. You're obviously frustrated with your mothers prejudgments based on race and ethnic status, but are giving yourself a free pass on the prejudgments you make in your own life?
Either way, I wouldn't let this one small disagreement in life alter the relationship with your mother. It's not worth it.
It’s impossible to have a conversation because everything she says is trump’s words. I asked why and the answers I got were just more stereotypes.
Goes something like: “What have Mexican people ever done to you?” “They’re coming here stealing jobs, mooching of MY tax dollars.” “But mom, you’re an immigrant and we were on food stamps for almost 2 years when we moved here.” “That was different cause we’re good people and we belong here.”
Or: “Mom, when you start getting racial it makes me want to get up and go home. Can we just avoid the subject?” “It’s not my fault, you know how THEY are. You have to be careful around them, most of them are gang members and they all just want to stay on the drugs.” *meanwhile, she failed to notice my year-long amph addiction when I was living in her house years ago* “That’s the kind of thing I’m asking you to keep to yourself.” “Oh what? Just because I’m white, I can’t talk about race? You know THEY talk about US all the time and no one says a thing,”
Crazy part is, her demographic is sooo liberal. She was a single mom with 2 kids; she’s a nurse at a city hospital; she’s an atheist; she has been a victim of discrimination (way back in USSR); and she’s against guns, pro-choice, anti-war, etc. Nothing like a “typical” American racist, but echoing the same rhetoric...
Still...even after everything...I just can’t find it in me to cut off contact or ignore her....that’s my mom man, ya know?
To be fair to your mother, illegals DO dilute wages and steal jobs from US citizens. It really doesn't matter if they're from Mexico or Russia. Immigrants are also a massive burden on the US taxpayer, again it shouldn't matter where they're from, it's just economic reality. 
The fact that your mother was also an immigrant doesn't change the reality. Does it make her hypocritical? Yes, but that still doesn't change the validity of her argument.
As far as the criminal aspect, she is correct again. Illegals are part of the gang problem in the US. Again, it doesn't matter if they're Mexican or Russian.
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: feldman114]
#26426789 - 01/10/20 03:46 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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Appreciate your mom is human and that we all have our issues. Maybe just let her be instead of trying to change her.
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Re: So turns out my mom is a huge racist [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#26426799 - 01/10/20 03:51 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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Learn spanish then respond to her as often as possible in spanish thus subliminally teaching her in the process. That will show her
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