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Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF 13
#26424109 - 01/09/20 08:04 AM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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So growing Panaeolus need not be complicated.All you need access to in this method is 1)A nice outdoor spot 2)Some clean spawn 3)hpoo With this method all we trying to do is mimic all conditions Pans love to grow in. So lets get busy.... Find a suitable spot Not sunny - and not to much shade -preferably with some really NICE healthy grass.(think of the stuff horses and cows love to eat) Simply break up as much spawn as you want and cover area
 Simply cover with crumbled,unpasteurized HPOO - bought to field capacity. Dont worry to much about getting it perfect -
 Water... And wait ... Keep top of Hpoo slightly moist And a few days later..... Viola'...
 And some close ups...
 You get the general idea .... EasyAsFuck
  
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: Zifozonke]
#26424120 - 01/09/20 08:16 AM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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outdoor growing is super easy, I haven't done it with Pans yet, but I'll need to try this! Well done man!
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: eLeSDenes]
#26424127 - 01/09/20 08:20 AM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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Nice.
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: Smartattack]
#26477901 - 02/10/20 02:23 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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This is awesome. Trying to do this in un-sterile conditions currently.
Got a bunch of stem buts in carboard thats been soaked in 2% honey/water solution. Ill try to knock up a bunch of cow poo, might mix it up with straw too, best to try a few things I figure. Then spawn more cow poo etc etc.. The sky is the limit 
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: bertblack]
#26477909 - 02/10/20 02:34 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nice job zifozonke! What is the climate like? I thinks it's too cold to get away with that here at least for a couple months.
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: spiritlands]
#26478378 - 02/10/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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bertblack said: This is awesome. Trying to do this in un-sterile conditions currently.
Got a bunch of stem buts in carboard thats been soaked in 2% honey/water solution. Ill try to knock up a bunch of cow poo, might mix it up with straw too, best to try a few things I figure. Then spawn more cow poo etc etc.. The sky is the limit  
Good luck man... I havnt tried this with stem butts on cardboard-I hope it works out-share your results if it does
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spiritlands said: Nice job zifozonke! What is the climate like? I thinks it's too cold to get away with that here at least for a couple months.
Yeah Spirit Im blessed weather wise where I stay..basically sub tropical-hot and humid summers with very mild winters-basically perfect conditions for outdoor mush tek
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: Zifozonke]
#26478395 - 02/10/20 11:20 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#26478626 - 02/10/20 01:47 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Very cool!
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: fahtster]
#26478724 - 02/10/20 02:58 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Bruhh
More like LuckyAsFuck 
Can’t easily do dis with grain spawn, critters be on dat shit in a heatbeat, coons, skunks, rats lol
Clean grain will also turn into dat green mean real quick like
Jussayin... prolly chucked a failed sub and got lucky lol
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: Ryzo]
#26478931 - 02/10/20 05:06 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Trich isn't going to grow outside. I could see animals liking it tho, birds and squirrels like to eat the grain I chuck outside. Never seen them dig for it tho.
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: spiritlands]
#26478977 - 02/10/20 05:33 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sure it can. Spawn in direct sun n see what happens. All about dat temps in the middle, get hot enough and trich will def show up before it dies. And if you haven’t seen critters dig out spawn then u have a sicc lucky spot n should do more outdoor grows. City gardens, rats dig our shit out in a heartbeat anyone who’s tried hella outdoor grows knows this for sure
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: Ryzo]
#26478988 - 02/10/20 05:40 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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That’s pretty cool I would try this but if found that termites love to eat grain spawn. Every patch Iv made outside the termites have hit hard.
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: SFS96]
#26479007 - 02/10/20 05:49 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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One could make something like this. Line the bottom and it should keep most critters from fucking with your little mush patch. Instead of using glass perhaps use chicken wire or window screen so that it can get rained on.
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: spiritlands]
#26479008 - 02/10/20 05:50 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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spiritlands said: Trich isn't going to grow outside.
Trich is EVERYWHERE outside. Pick up a handful of dirt. Its loaded with the stuff
Where you live OP? I don't think I could pull off outdoor pans in the city
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#26479023 - 02/10/20 05:57 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yuup these guys above me be the pros.. they kno what they talkin about

i would also add dat screen on the bottom jus in case, fuckin seen plenty gophers too before lol ain't as easy as layin spawn outside my dude
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: mushboy]
#26479024 - 02/10/20 05:58 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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It exists outside as spores but I'd love to see trich growing on its own in open air. Not likely. Even bad subs I've tossed outside that had trich don't mold. Not to argue, I could be wrong, but I say pics or it doesn't happen.
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: Ryzo] 1
#26479030 - 02/10/20 06:00 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've made plenty of gourmet beds outside on the ground uncovered. The wildlife can sometimes be an issue, sometimes not.
It's not as hard as you're making out to be. It seems to be working for him. Should you have an issue though just build an enclosure.
The only thing I've had grow in or near my beds are slime mold, never trich.
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: spiritlands]
#26479032 - 02/10/20 06:02 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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lol they all over the forest man ahaha


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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: spiritlands]
#26479033 - 02/10/20 06:03 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: mushboy]
#26479044 - 02/10/20 06:09 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's not as hard as you're making out to be.
Nah bruh. It's not as easy at he's making out to be is my point.
We just don't want new people to be pouring out their hard earned clean spawn outside thinking it be dat easy ya know? Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't ur right, but it ain't #EasyAsFuck fersure
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: mushboy]
#26479052 - 02/10/20 06:13 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Guess it happens.  Mushboy that article does say it's temp dependant and list rainforests and decaying vegetation as habitat. I'm in high desert, no rainforests anywhere close.
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: Ryzo]
#26479064 - 02/10/20 06:23 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ryzo said:
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p9hu7 said:
It's not as hard as you're making out to be.
Nah bruh. It's not as easy at he's making out to be is my point.
We just don't want new people to be pouring out their hard earned clean spawn outside thinking it be dat easy ya know? Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't ur right, but it ain't #EasyAsFuck fersure
Hpoo may be different, I don't use ot so I wouldn't know. Check this out though:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4304709
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#26479204 - 02/10/20 07:56 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Werddd Lous oldskool grow classic, seen it
Cubes grow like weeds in Florida man, he put dat shit in the shade with sum klean enough blackkow and boom lol easy
Just like Devas, also in a tropical enviro : https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4563577
Also notice BRF is a bit tougher than grain, rye, oats, RGS outdoors, dems shit will turn green quick if the inner temps get hot
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: Ryzo]
#26479243 - 02/10/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ok...
Well, sorry for the thread high Jack there OP, nice grow
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: Ryzo]
#26479314 - 02/10/20 09:19 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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This was really easy...the main problems I have had with outdoor grows are the elements ie wind rain and sun. I have had the odd problem with rats diggin out grain-more so in my outdoor tubs close to house termites-only when grain and hpoo is laid on bare ground-didnt have problem s when I started on nice grass Green mould/Trich-I dont see any even on unpasteurised hpoo-sometimes only a little at the end after mushrooms are finished-But I have more mould problems on my indoor projects/tubs Slugs can be a major problem when pins and fruits come-they love them!! I like that cold frame idea.I think that could be used to great advantage But dont get me wrong... Im not trying to say it will work everywhere...but Im pretty certain could be done in most places once its warm-with a little ingenuity. For drier less humid areas-a bit of water poured 2/3 times daily around area creates favorable humid conditions. Give it a try You may be surprised...
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: Zifozonke]
#26624113 - 04/24/20 08:07 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Super excited to attempt this, do you reckon if one were to poke a bunch of holes in the "casing" layer it might influence the mycelium to put out fruits from each hole? (possibly leading to bigger yields spread out opposed to clusters)
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: Tryptamang]
#26624554 - 04/24/20 11:43 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Poking holes wont make any differnce- Dont let the top dry hard-Keep your pile dampish and if your temps,rh and evaporation are right you will get fruits  
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: Zifozonke]
#26631536 - 04/27/20 06:56 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Poking holes wont make any differnce- Dont let the top dry hard-Keep your pile dampish and if your temps,rh and evaporation are right you will get fruits   
Cheers, digging through the panaeolus thread have found a lot of good tips & your posts are helpful, hopefully you'll see some photos once my outdoor beds start giving me some results! (They're coir+foraged&bagged cow manure+v8+5htp+wild spores)
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: Tryptamang] 2
#27476639 - 09/21/21 07:41 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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This worked great for me. I had 4 jars of the same pan cyan variety and didn't have my martha built yet at that point so I didn't have a way to fruit them all. So I made an outdoor bed with all four jars. I did things just slightly differently, but really it probably would have worked the same had I followed the instructions exactly. I sprinkled the colonized grains down directly on the soil, sprinkled dry aged horse manure over the top (a very thin layer - just enough to completely cover the grains - so slightly less than 1/4"), then I covered that with fresh chopped straw. Then I watered it all with a watering pail and left it alone. It sat like that for maybe 2 weeks max, then we got some rains several days in a row and the patch is starting to fruit. If you zoom in you can see a LOT more fruits coming up so it appears the patch is just getting started. Now I just have to figure out when I should harvest the fruits. As of now I'm waiting to see them drop spores and then I harvest them. They do seem to get bigger each day up to that point and since pans are so tiny anyway, I want to let them get as big as possible.


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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: Hindsight]
#27476643 - 09/21/21 07:44 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hindsight said: This worked great for me. I had 4 jars of the same pan cyan variety and didn't have my martha built yet at that point so I didn't have a way to fruit them all. So I made an outdoor bed with all four jars. I did things just slightly differently, but really it probably would have worked the same had I followed the instructions exactly. I sprinkled the colonized grains down directly on the soil, sprinkled dry aged horse manure over the top (a very thin layer - just enough to completely cover the grains - so slightly less than 1/4"), then I covered that with fresh chopped straw. Then I watered it all with a watering pail and left it alone. It sat like that for maybe 2 weeks max, then we got some rains several days in a row and the patch is starting to fruit. If you zoom in you can see a LOT more fruits coming up so it appears the patch is just getting started. Now I just have to figure out when I should harvest the fruits. As of now I'm waiting to see them drop spores and then I harvest them. They do seem to get bigger each day up to that point and since pans are so tiny anyway, I want to let them get as big as possible.



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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: Guerrilla]
#27476664 - 09/21/21 08:04 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Very nice, well done!
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: seldom seen]
#27536759 - 11/09/21 04:41 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I kow I'm late to the party, but this is still totally awqesome. I'm in FL. Gonna try this. Just need a starter...spores, culture, something.
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Re: Lets grow PAN.CYAN outdoor - EAF [Re: SpaceBaby]
#27536965 - 11/09/21 07:15 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've got a perfect little spot in my landscaping for a Pan-patch. Winter is just about to hit though so I'll have to start some spawn in the Spring. What temperatures would be best for pans?
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Above 70 at night, and really any temp during the day so long as it's humid enough. For example, if it got to 90F during the day, but humidity was high, that would be fine. The more rain the better. You can make up for that if you install some sprinklers. The best possible weather for outdoor pans in my experience is daily rains (even if just for a couple of hours), night time temps above 70, and day time temps between 76 and 90. Direct sun is ok but mine preferred partial shade (filtered sunlight). You can use tools to make up for a lot of things your environment might be lacking. Misters would fix lack of rain. Shade cloth setup a few feet above the pans can prevent long direct sun exposure. And a make-shift hoop frame poly covering (low budget greenhouse) may help with the day and or night-time temps if they are a bit low.
I've heard panaeolus bisporus will tolerate lower temps but I haven't tried them yet. I plan to give them a shot in early spring to see how early and how late I can extend the outdoor season.
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#27537037 - 11/09/21 08:05 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Awesome, thanks! Temps/humidity shouldn't be a problem for me from June to mid September and I have a perfect spot for filtered sun. This will be going in a manicured lawn/landscaping bed so I will have to either install a mister or hand water daily to avoid having wet grass over night, otherwise I'll get lawn diseases.
I hate when I'm already planning Spring projects and expecting the snow to fly within the month
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Very cool!
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