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Re: Hallucinating from weed? For real! [Re: The Mycologist]
    #26426081 - 01/10/20 06:56 AM (4 years, 19 days ago)

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I sometimes feel that if a person can handle strong edibles then they will be fine on the traditional psychs.



I took one high dose of edibles before and it was terrible. Its not even enjoyable to be honest. The anxiety and auditory hallucinations off edibles is not the same as mushrooms. Marijuana is not even really my thing anymore though.

Definitely do feel mushrooms are easier to handle:lol:


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Re: Hallucinating from weed? For real! [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast] * 1
    #26426190 - 01/10/20 08:52 AM (4 years, 19 days ago)

I don’t think it’s laced.  Super high dose cannabinoids are pretty much the only class of chemicals that give me true hallucinations.  Also like OM states no body is going to lace weed to get people to keep coming back.  If you sold me laced weed your never getting another 20 bill from me again.


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Re: Hallucinating from weed? For real! [Re: theRealrollforever]
    #26426365 - 01/10/20 11:34 AM (4 years, 19 days ago)

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I don’t think it’s laced.  Super high dose cannabinoids are pretty much the only class of chemicals that give me true hallucinations.  Also like OM states no body is going to lace weed to get people to keep coming back.  If you sold me laced weed your never getting another 20 bill from me again.



Yeah but the reason I'm thinking it was laced is because OP said that no other pot had given him experiences like this. If that was just the way he normally reacted to cannabis, or if this was on an occasion where he dosed SUPER high I'd figure it probably wasn't laced. But it sounds like he was dosing normally. I've never had laced weed but I know someone who has and this person is a long time daily smoker so they know what pot is and what it isn't. People do lace pot sometimes. It's rare but it happens.


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Re: Hallucinating from weed? For real! [Re: simeon]
    #26426370 - 01/10/20 11:44 AM (4 years, 19 days ago)

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OK, so it seems that the most people have had are slight visuals etc, apart from the odd edible experience here and there.
I did get slight visuals when I first started smoking, but never hallucinations, apart from this time I mentioned.
So
What does synthetic weed look like?
Does it look like bud in any way?
Thanks for sharing your experiences too.
Cheers.



Synthetic cannabanoids can pretty much just be dissolved into whatever plant you want. Maybe dude man extracted all the thc out of his buds and wanted to sell the plant matter to make some profit so he filled it back up with K2 or something lol. I'm not really sure. And it's possible that it wasn't laced like a lot of other people are saying. Some people get strong hallucinations from pot. But generally if you do that's just how it always is for you when you have zero/little tolerance. It sounds like this was just some freak one bag thing which is what makes me suspicious about it.


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Re: Hallucinating from weed? For real! [Re: The Mycologist]
    #26426376 - 01/10/20 11:50 AM (4 years, 19 days ago)

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I sometimes feel that if a person can handle strong edibles then they will be fine on the traditional psychs.



Yeah high dose edibles can absolutely wreck you. I'd say harder to handle than traditional psychedelics in a lot of ways. There's just these unbelievably heavy physical sensations from edible pot and your head just gets so clouded on top of the general altered mindset. Psychedelics alter your headspace drastically but for me there's normally more clarity to it.


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Re: Hallucinating from weed? For real! [Re: openmind]
    #26426383 - 01/10/20 11:57 AM (4 years, 19 days ago)

Wow, in no way was I expecting such a snooty response to my post. The op asked for an opinion and I gave mine. He specifically asked if anyone thought the weed was laced - remember?

I will try to address you question though, open mind.

How is it possible to cut a crystal into a herb?

Well, you could conduct your own little experiment to show how this could be done.

Take a glass of water and put a sugar cube in it and see what happens. Likely you will notice that the cube dissolves into solution as the ionic bonds between the sucrose molecules are broken by the chemical energy of the solvent; water. This same principle works for all solvents with water being the universal solvent for many organic molecules. But even covalent bonded molecules can be entered into solution if the solvent used has a high enough chemical energy to break those types of bonds - think acid etching of sandstone or dissolving or creating of gemstone crystals in lab solutions.

Now imagine stirring the solution really well and then using a spray bottle to coat our buds of weed. Then we put the weed sugar mixture in a heated drying chamber and presto - we have cut our weed with sugar. I wouldn't recommend you smoke it but there are lots of things I wouldn't recommend as it happens.

Why would a dealer cut his product with meth?

Why do dealers cut their product with anything? Likely because it does increase product for one reason or another. Some may want to produce a more intense high and others may simply want to increase the weight of their product as those who cut weed with crushed glass. Don't forget that in regions where weed is still illegal you have all the incentives for artificial demand that prohibition of substances people like to consume brings with none of the ethics or regulation of a legal substance. Though I am actually not a big fan of the recovery industry, a couple of sites that may help you out are the American addiction centre's page on substances that marijuana can be cut with or the recovery village page on weed and meth. I would post links but I'm on a phone at the moment and don't feel like making the effort. You can easily google yourself.

Why does it not make sense to cut weed with anything when almost all other drugs have been cut to some extent. I once was offered to smoke up outside a nightclub by some dude and his you could tell right away his weed was cut with rock just from the taste and the rush. I actually did not appreciate this but it didn't stop me from toking. It made for a really intense high though I do not like crack at all. Why would he buy weed that was cut? I suppose he either didn't know or that he liked the high.

People do all kinds of weird things with drugs. Why would dealers be any different? Because they just want to chill and are ethical honest dudes?

Really??

Why do I think the op's weed was laced with something toxic?

If you go back and read using your reading comprehension skills you will notice that he asked for an opinion and I was merely giving mine as a suggestion.

I have been smoking weed since I was 13 and I'm 60 now. I took 8 years out because it was not fun anymore then started again when it became legal here.

In all the years I have smoked pot I have never experienced the kind of vivid terrifying visuals described in the op. So I was only going on my own experience One of the symptoms of weed laced with meth according to the AAS website page was agitation and vivid hallucinations.

So, I merely offered this as a possibility.

Now that I have answered your questions, is it possible to have a more sedate and respectful discussion?

I notice you've been put on ignore a few times. That is not really my style but I didn't appreciate the tone of your response.


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Re: Hallucinating from weed? For real! [Re: Ranger7227]
    #26426391 - 01/10/20 12:05 PM (4 years, 19 days ago)

I've had hallucinations from weed but for that legal of intensity with open eyes visuals from smoking a few bowls seems very sketchy. Especially since he said his bro was feeling g similar symptoms as well which also leads me to thi knits laced.


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Re: Hallucinating from weed? For real! [Re: SonicTitan]
    #26427490 - 01/11/20 02:20 AM (4 years, 18 days ago)

Thanks for the replies and opinions.
I had always thought that it was laced, and still do.
However, when I tell people this, they often say that it doesn't make financial sense to lace weed.
This may be true or not, but common sense is not gifted to every dealer.
The reason I thought it was laced, is because it was very different to every other smoke I'd had, and I've had a lot.
I've been way too high quite a few times, and nothing like this ever happened.
Even the smallest puff from this had me "high" in a very different way.
I have seen a girl once who was drinking a lot of scotch, and smoking a lot of strong weed with me. She passed out and became delirious, we had to carry her to bed, and she kept ranting about Mulder and Scully, like she was in the X-files..lol. I wouldn't say she hallucinated though.
Also my sons friend had a psychotic break from weed, and started grazing on grass in his backyard. Needless to say he had to quit.

And yeah, the Mighty Boosh is awesome Ferrum, Crackfox is a crackup.


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Re: Hallucinating from weed? For real! [Re: simeon]
    #26427800 - 01/11/20 09:50 AM (4 years, 18 days ago)

how long was the extremely hallucinogenic part of the trip?
if it were short (<10 minutes) it could have been the addition of salvia divinorum extract for not much expense.


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Re: Hallucinating from weed? For real! [Re: simeon]
    #26427805 - 01/11/20 09:55 AM (4 years, 18 days ago)

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simeon said:
Thanks for the replies and opinions.
I had always thought that it was laced, and still do.
However, when I tell people this, they often say that it doesn't make financial sense to lace weed.
This may be true or not, but common sense is not gifted to every dealer.
The reason I thought it was laced, is because it was very different to every other smoke I'd had, and I've had a lot.
I've been way too high quite a few times, and nothing like this ever happened.
Even the smallest puff from this had me "high" in a very different way.
I have seen a girl once who was drinking a lot of scotch, and smoking a lot of strong weed with me. She passed out and became delirious, we had to carry her to bed, and she kept ranting about Mulder and Scully, like she was in the X-files..lol. I wouldn't say she hallucinated though.
Also my sons friend had a psychotic break from weed, and started grazing on grass in his backyard. Needless to say he had to quit.

And yeah, the Mighty Boosh is awesome Ferrum, Crackfox is a crackup.



Yeah honestly man I have no idea who would lace weed, unless you were some rich shitty person knowing you're causing some bullshit to happen to random people lol.

Just some strong weed with familiarity in the psychedelic headspace and I can for sure see things starting to unfold from there


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Re: Hallucinating from weed? For real! [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26427811 - 01/11/20 10:04 AM (4 years, 18 days ago)

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how long was the extremely hallucinogenic part of the trip?
if it were short (<10 minutes) it could have been the addition of salvia divinorum extract for not much expense.




For me the first 30 minutes or so of Cannabis is the most hallucinogenic part, after 30 to 45 minutes or so things start to balance out and calm down and i feel more comfortable.


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Re: Hallucinating from weed? For real! [Re: SonicTitan]
    #26428235 - 01/11/20 02:29 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

Interesting that so many here report hallucinations on weed. I can't ever remember that happening to me - even with black lighting and strobes at concerts and dances back in my misspent youth.

As I said earlier, I've had some strange things happen like the incident with the car keys but never outright visuals.

Maybe I'm just not getting the quality product the rest of you are... :jah:  :psychsplit:

I always get a pretty high THC content though and the level is listed on the packaging.

Oh well, maybe my brain is just not wired for heavy visuals.

I agree with you though that for outright visuals of pirates attacking it sounds like the product was laced to me.


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Re: Hallucinating from weed? For real! [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26428299 - 01/11/20 02:54 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

The full hallucinations were fairly short, and definitely only a few minutes, counting the first wavy floor to the people coming through the wall.
Also I had time to walk from the garage to the upstairs bedroom before anything kicked in.


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Re: Hallucinating from weed? For real! [Re: Ranger7227] * 1
    #26428693 - 01/11/20 07:16 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

I have a friend who for years has been a heavy daily smoker and has access to top grade herb. Like years without even a day break. He had to take 6 weeks off recently for health reasons...and the first time he smoked some headband he had what he called “borderline dmt like experience that morphed into a lsd type mental state”. This lasted 3-4 hours and happened a few times until he got his tolerance back and then  “stoned” effects were the norm. He’s done a lot of psychedelics in his life and it in his early 50’s and was shocked at how powerful the weed was with zero tolerance


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Re: Hallucinating from weed? For real! [Re: simeon]
    #26428706 - 01/11/20 07:30 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

I've had visuals from weed before (although not anything like what OP mentions), and of course I've had it cause psychedelic flashbacks and it temporarily worsens my HPPD. Also greened out once or twice and had some crazy hallucinations. Especially with zero tolerance, smoking enough weed would shoot me into space.

I wouldn't call it psychedelic, it's something else entirely.

Weed generally isn't cut with anything. It'd be pointless, difficult, and expensive to do so without any clear benefit. It's possible it was a cannabinoid RC sprayed onto fake weed maybe. But since the other experienced posters are saying that regular weed can cause this kind of stuff, I'm inclined to agree that it was just weed even though I've never had experiences like OP's.


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Re: Hallucinating from weed? For real! [Re: Dilsnique]
    #26428714 - 01/11/20 07:43 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

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I usually get visuals from the purple strains.




True dat, not sure why.. I'm a one hit guy in general. It does not take a lot of any kind of bud to get me too high. Learning to enjoy the hallucinations on edibles even if it has that high anxiety factor. It's good to try and do things active like an ab workout. Or just let the patterns take over your mind.


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