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POWERFUL BLUE HONEY 3
#26423647 - 01/08/20 09:33 PM (4 years, 21 days ago) |
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This is what my Blue Honey looks like. I cut up some Fresh mushrooms and I also added Black Pepper, Ginger, Cinnamon, Lions Mane, Sage to Real Raw Honey. This Blue Honey is going to Powerful.
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: wilspeak]
#26423999 - 01/09/20 06:01 AM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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I know exactly how it's going to taste
May be a one way plane ticket - may not come back from that
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Vibe_Enthusiast said: I know exactly how it's going to taste
May be a one way plane ticket - may not come back from that
If you look closely at the jar, you may see eyes and faces.
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: wilspeak]
#26425353 - 01/09/20 08:03 PM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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what possessed you to do this, if i may ask
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: Corundum]
#26427358 - 01/10/20 10:23 PM (4 years, 19 days ago) |
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Corundum said: what possessed you to do this, if i may ask
I read about Blue Honey and I heard that many cultures preserved mushrooms and other foods in Honey. Also, I had some batches of picked mushrooms get old and moldy. So I decided instead of packing all of my mushroom stash away, why not preserve some of them in Honey and also make a Healthy tonic at the same time.
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: wilspeak]
#26427447 - 01/11/20 12:59 AM (4 years, 18 days ago) |
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I love making blue honey! I pick aborts and toss em into the raw honey jar. Interesting combination of spices and as well as lions mane didnt know that was even a thing will have to try it out.
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: wilspeak]
#26427463 - 01/11/20 01:16 AM (4 years, 18 days ago) |
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This looks like a jar of next-level experiences right there, OP! 
Be safe, have fun, enjoy!
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Endless Buddha said: I love making blue honey! I pick aborts and toss em into the raw honey jar. Interesting combination of spices and as well as lions mane didnt know that was even a thing will have to try it out. 
How does one measure a dose though?
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I dont think I'll ever understand the appeal of 'blue' honey.
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: mushboy]
#26427745 - 01/11/20 09:10 AM (4 years, 18 days ago) |
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Why is that?
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: Amanita86] 2
#26427762 - 01/11/20 09:23 AM (4 years, 18 days ago) |
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Looks gross. Isnt blue. impossible to accurately dose. Taste like death.
Gimmicky I guess
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Endless Buddha said: I love making blue honey! I pick aborts and toss em into the raw honey jar. Interesting combination of spices and as well as lions mane didnt know that was even a thing will have to try it out. 
Wow that looks very nice. I am thinking about doing Truffle Blue Honey I used the powdered Lions mane, not fresh. Do you keep your Blue Honey in the refrigerator or just store it at room temperature? And how long have you had Blue Honey?
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: mushboy] 1
#26428975 - 01/11/20 11:55 PM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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mushboy said: Looks gross. Isnt blue. impossible to accurately dose. Taste like death.
Gimmicky I guess
It's not gimmicky The Ancient Egyptians stored mushroom extracts in honey to preserve their potency. Its a delicious and healthy way to enjoy the mushrooms.
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: wilspeak]
#26429071 - 01/12/20 02:36 AM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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Its not unusual to get passed blue honey at doofs here. You just tip a mouthful into your mouth and pass the jar on. 
Pretty trashy places though. Partying with the manimals.
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: mushboy]
#26438424 - 01/17/20 11:50 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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mushboy said: Looks gross. Isnt blue. impossible to accurately dose. Taste like death.
Gimmicky I guess
Also Placing undried (living) mushrooms🍄 inside of Honey which comes from (Living) Beings called Honey Bees 🐝 is a WONDERFUL and BLESSED Idea.
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You dont haha
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: wilspeak]
#26439293 - 01/17/20 09:21 PM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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Im not so sure if lions mane or another mushroom would work than again I am no expert. From what I understand of blue honey is over time the honey is pulling the water out of the FRESH mushroom thus making magic honey and the blueing comes from the bruised part of the mushroom. I don't think dry mushrooms would work it would simply just be honey+dry mush. But hey who am I to say what is right or wrong
I store my honey in a dark cabinet and its been aging for 5 months and counting at room temp
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Endless Buddha said: Im not so sure if lions mane or another mushroom would work than again I am no expert. From what I understand of blue honey is over time the honey is pulling the water out of the FRESH mushroom thus making magic honey and the blueing comes from the bruised part of the mushroom. I don't think dry mushrooms would work it would simply just be honey+dry mush. But hey who am I to say what is right or wrong
I store my honey in a dark cabinet and its been aging for 5 months and counting at room temp
Is Your Blue Honey spoiling from being made with raw undried mushrooms? Because everyone has told me that raw undried mushrooms will rot in honey, I don't think so, but that's what's being said. So I made my Blue Honey with Cut up Raw undried mushrooms and I loaded the blue honey up with some spices to help it stay fresh and for health reasons and I store mine in the refrigerator. As for Lions Mane its a very interesting mushroom. Lion's mane has been shown to protect and help build up Brain cells and it has other health benefits. Check this video out >>>> Lion's Mane Mushroom >>>
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: wilspeak]
#26439474 - 01/18/20 01:21 AM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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I always thought you have to use dried, ground up shrooms for that.
Seeing fresh, whole shrooms in there doesn't look right to me at all..? 
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: Pandemoon]
#26439490 - 01/18/20 01:46 AM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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Ground up and powdered seems more pleasant to me. Just spread it on some toast and off you go. You wouldn’t even hardly know it’s there I wouldn’t think for the most part. It probably all settles over time so you would have to stir it.
Ever since that thread about low blood sugar = bad trip, I’ve been wondering about starting off mushroom trips with a couple slices of honey toast. This would kill two birds with one stone. You would just have to be sure nobody grabs it by accident..
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: Pandemoon]
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Pandemoon said: I always thought you have to use dried, ground up shrooms for that.
Seeing fresh, whole shrooms in there doesn't look right to me at all..? 
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I was waiting for someone to say that, I agree. If you thin out honey enough with water, it makes it possible to ferment. Not saying this is or isn't going to happen, I've not tried it, but I'd be concerned...
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: Forrester]
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Forrester said: If you thin out honey enough with water, it makes it possible to ferment.
And with mushies inside... Psychedelic mead.
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Gimmicky I guess
I guessed right
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And with mushies inside... Psychedelic mead. 
yeah that's gonna taste reeeeeeeeeeeal good
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: Forrester]
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Endless Buddha said: Im not so sure if lions mane or another mushroom would work than again I am no expert. From what I understand of blue honey is over time the honey is pulling the water out of the FRESH mushroom thus making magic honey and the blueing comes from the bruised part of the mushroom. I don't think dry mushrooms would work it would simply just be honey dry mush. But hey who am I to say what is right or wrong
I store my honey in a dark cabinet and its been aging for 5 months and counting at room temp
Thank You for the Links.... in the second Link (https://www.clusterheadaches.com/wwwboard/messages/88794.html) at the bottom of that page it says >>>> "When it comes time to use the shrooms, you only need the chunks of shroom, not the honey - unless you want to rot your teeth!" That quote is complete Nonsense. I have been eating Raw unfiltered Honey for Years and its done nothing to My teeth but made me Healthy. I eat both the Honey And the Mushrooms.
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: Pandemoon]
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Pandemoon said: I always thought you have to use dried, ground up shrooms for that.
Seeing fresh, whole shrooms in there doesn't look right to me at all..? 
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I put the magic Honey in the refrigerator to keep it Fresh, plus the spices (Black Pepper, Turmeric, Ginger, Cinnamon, Loins Mane, Sage) will help preserve it. It will not rot if kept Cold. As a matter of fact. I taste and smell it every few days and it's doing just fine.
Also Placing undried (living) mushrooms🍄inside of Honey which comes from (Living) Beings called Honey Bees 🐝 is a WONDERFUL and BLESSED Idea.
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: Forrester]
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Forrester said: If you thin out honey enough with water, it makes it possible to ferment.
And with mushies inside... Psychedelic mead. 
yeah that's gonna taste reeeeeeeeeeeal good 
Yes even if the Blue Honey does turn into a type of Mead inside of a Cold Refrigerator, it's going to taste Good
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: wilspeak]
#26441617 - 01/19/20 12:21 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Stop spamming this thread dude.
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said: Stop spamming this thread dude.
Who is "spamming" this Thread?
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: wilspeak]
#26444033 - 01/20/20 10:33 PM (4 years, 8 days ago) |
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Early on I really liked the sound of blue honey.
Now I think its just old stories, like smoking banana peals. People never seem to credibly come back with confirmation.
I'm not against being wrong though. I want active honey.
Using fresh mush doesn't seem food safe, but seems like the only way the honey itself would actually be active.
Using dry just seems like you'd still have to eat the mush anyway, so you're not really accomplishing anything beyond what drying them and storing them properly would do.
Does anyone actually make and consume blue honey? Where the actual honey itself becomes active, and is shelf stable?
Could you make mushroom tea, dissolve a bunch of honey in it while hot, the evaporate off the water til you had shelf stable honey again that is now active?
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I've eaten it before several times, never made it though. It's a real thing.
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I think it takes months untill the honey absorbs all the actives from fresh whole shrooms.
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Ithoughtshewasme said: Early on I really liked the sound of blue honey.
Now I think its just old stories, like smoking banana peals. People never seem to credibly come back with confirmation.
I'm not against being wrong though. I want active honey.
Using fresh mush doesn't seem food safe, but seems like the only way the honey itself would actually be active.
Using dry just seems like you'd still have to eat the mush anyway, so you're not really accomplishing anything beyond what drying them and storing them properly would do.
Does anyone actually make and consume blue honey? Where the actual honey itself becomes active, and is shelf stable?
Could you make mushroom tea, dissolve a bunch of honey in it while hot, the evaporate off the water til you had shelf stable honey again that is now active?
I can understand your concerns about the Blue Honey using raw mushrooms being safe to eat. I put the magic Honey in the refrigerator to keep it fresh, plus the spices (Black Pepper, Turmeric, Ginger, Cinnamon, Loins Mane, Sage) will help preserve it. It will not rot if kept Cold. As a matter of fact. I taste and smell it every few days and it's doing just fine.
Also Placing undried (living) mushrooms🍄inside of Honey which comes from (Living) Beings called Honey Bees 🐝 is a WONDERFUL and BLESSED Idea. Also, I tasted my own Blue Honey the other day and it was delicious with just 1 large teaspoon of the Honey and Yes it did have a mild magic mushroom effect.
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: Pandemoon]
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That is not just the case. I made my Blue Honey 1/05/20. And I tasted my own Blue Honey the other day 1/20/20 and it was delicious with just 1 large teaspoon of the Honey and Yes it did have a mild magic mushroom effect.
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: wilspeak]
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That is not just the case. I made my Blue Honey 1/05/20. And I tasted my own Blue Honey the other day 1/20/20 and it was delicious with just 1 large teaspoon of the Honey and Yes it did have a mild magic mushroom effect.
Well of course it had some effect, I would expect that. But how does that lead you to conclude that all actives are pulled from the material?
To be clear he said "all actives"
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And with mushies inside... Psychedelic mead. 
I've done psychedelic mead, it will fuck you up. Then you black out, not my cup of mead.
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Ithoughtshewasme said: Does anyone actually make and consume blue honey? Where the actual honey itself becomes active, and is shelf stable?
Could you make mushroom tea, dissolve a bunch of honey in it while hot, the evaporate off the water til you had shelf stable honey again that is now active?
That's exactly what I've done in the past. Make a STRONG tea, filter well and evaporate down, add half the honey and evaporate down to the consistency of hot honey, mix in the remainder of the honey and transfer to a hot glass jar. Let cool and enjoy. It works well, and the honey is super stealthy.
The idea of putting a lot of wet mushrooms in honey scares me. Botulism risk. Adding herbs will NOT protect against this potentially fatal issue.
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That is not just the case. I made my Blue Honey 1/05/20. And I tasted my own Blue Honey the other day 1/20/20 and it was delicious with just 1 large teaspoon of the Honey and Yes it did have a mild magic mushroom effect.
Well of course it had some effect, I would expect that. But how does that lead you to conclude that all actives are pulled from the material?
To be clear he said "all actives"
how does that lead you to conclude that all actives are pulled from the material? I eat the mushrooms and the honey, so it doesn't matter if all of the actives are pulled from the mushroom, Im still getting all of it.
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Forrester said: If you thin out honey enough with water, it makes it possible to ferment.
And with mushies inside... Psychedelic mead. 
I've done psychedelic mead, it will fuck you up. Then you black out, not my cup of mead.
I have never made psychedelic mead, How do you make it?
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: Boarders]
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Ithoughtshewasme said: Does anyone actually make and consume blue honey? Where the actual honey itself becomes active, and is shelf stable?
Could you make mushroom tea, dissolve a bunch of honey in it while hot, the evaporate off the water til you had shelf stable honey again that is now active?
That's exactly what I've done in the past. Make a STRONG tea, filter well and evaporate down, add half the honey and evaporate down to the consistency of hot honey, mix in the remainder of the honey and transfer to a hot glass jar. Let cool and enjoy. It works well, and the honey is super stealthy.
The idea of putting a lot of wet mushrooms in honey scares me. Botulism risk. Adding herbs will NOT protect against this potentially fatal issue.
Well I understand what You are saying. I guess eating raw mushrooms from the supermarket or anywhere else is also a Botulism risk. I smell the honey and taste the honey every couple of days to make sure its kept fresh. I feel confident that its good to eat and enjoy. Also, its kept in a COLD refrigerator. Honey is one the oldest known antibiotics. The ancient Egyptians frequently used honey as a natural antibiotic and skin protectant. Honey contains hydrogen peroxide, which may account for some of its antibacterial properties. ... The honey can help kill off many kinds of dangerous bacteria and aid in healing .
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: wilspeak]
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wilspeak said: Well I understand what You are saying. I guess eating raw mushrooms from the supermarket or anywhere else is also a Botulism risk.
No it's not. The problem comes from the dilution of honey. There are spores within the raw honey but the water concentration is too low for them to germinate.
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wilspeak said: I smell the honey and taste the honey every couple of days to make sure its kept fresh.
This is insufficient. There would be no telltale signs spores had germinated, proliferated and begun to produce botulinum toxin.
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wilspeak said: Honey is one the oldest known antibiotics. The ancient Egyptians frequently used honey as a natural antibiotic and skin protectant. Honey contains hydrogen peroxide, which may account for some of its antibacterial properties.
True. Until you water it down, then it becomes an excellent growth medium. Ever seen a honey liquid culture made from a spore syringe?
It PROBABLY is safe, but why take a chance? Have a read about honey and botulism for interest sake.
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: Boarders]
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wilspeak said: Well I understand what You are saying. I guess eating raw mushrooms from the supermarket or anywhere else is also a Botulism risk.
No it's not. The problem comes from the dilution of honey. There are spores within the raw honey but the water concentration is too low for them to germinate.
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wilspeak said: I smell the honey and taste the honey every couple of days to make sure its kept fresh.
This is insufficient. There would be no telltale signs spores had germinated, proliferated and begun to produce botulinum toxin.
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wilspeak said: Honey is one the oldest known antibiotics. The ancient Egyptians frequently used honey as a natural antibiotic and skin protectant. Honey contains hydrogen peroxide, which may account for some of its antibacterial properties.
True. Until you water it down, then it becomes an excellent growth medium. Ever seen a honey liquid culture made from a spore syringe?
It PROBABLY is safe, but why take a chance? Have a read about honey and botulism for interest sake.
yeah, there is blue honey in fridge several YEARS old...to avoid possibility of botulism (or other harmful substance) can't the honey just be added to simmering water....so basically it goes into a tea. the temperature would kill anything unsafe and/or undesirable. right?
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: myco_fun]
#26454432 - 01/27/20 03:08 AM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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myco_fun said: yeah, there is blue honey in fridge several YEARS old...to avoid possibility of botulism (or other harmful substance) can't the honey just be added to simmering water....so basically it goes into a tea. the temperature would kill anything unsafe and/or undesirable. right?
As the toxin is heat labile, if it were to be boiled for a while it's possible it could be denatured. Swallowing a spoon of goo is a bigger problem.
WHO Botulism Factsheet
I'm not trying to be alarmist, but that picture showing watery honey is the concern. The risk is extraordinarily low, but it's significantly higher than honey with a similar water content to its 'natural' state which carries very little risk as the spores can't germinate.
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: Boarders]
#26454458 - 01/27/20 03:55 AM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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WHO Botulism Factsheet
I'm not trying to be alarmist, but that picture showing watery honey is the concern. The risk is extraordinarily low, but it's significantly higher than honey with a similar water content to its 'natural' state which carries very little risk as the spores can't germinate.
Cracker dry mushrooms were used...so does that eliminate (or drastically reduce) the chance of an undesirable contaminant? The jar is several years old...being stored in fridge.
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: myco_fun]
#26454944 - 01/27/20 10:49 AM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: myco_fun]
#26456151 - 01/28/20 01:05 AM (4 years, 1 day ago) |
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Absolutely. The problem arises when adding a lot of fresh mushrooms - water is pulled out of them through osmosis, diluting the honey.
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: wilspeak]
#26456193 - 01/28/20 02:33 AM (4 years, 1 day ago) |
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Blue honey is an interesting concept, but I agree that it's gimmicky and overhyped. It's impossible to dose accurately, and you probably have to consume a larger mass than you would otherwise. I don't even like honey that much anyway (not by itself anyway) so... I have no interest in trying it, and have no doubt that it probably tastes pretty awful. But to each their own, don't let me stop you from enjoying it.
I'll just stick to dried and tea.
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: nooneman]
#26456209 - 01/28/20 03:08 AM (4 years, 1 day ago) |
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yeah, the big selling point of blue honey is the thought that it would preserve the dried material for much longer - perhaps indefinitely.
and the honey can be added to tea...so taste isn't an issue.
for dosing, could make separate honey batches with specific masses of dried material.
the blue honey lasts forever...from what I understand.
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: myco_fun]
#26456235 - 01/28/20 03:58 AM (4 years, 1 day ago) |
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I've done both fresh and dry in honey a few times .
Using dry they store for 3 years according to a report of the person I gave them too.
Using fresh I know from personal experience they are atleast fine for a year.
There is a leeching effect from both dry and fresh according to experiences that I have seen unfold before me. I always consume both the mushroom and the honey so it's not for me to say exactly how much.
I've never really measure my doses anymore so it not an issue.
My advice is a teaspoon of the top as a starter and have had good reports back.
The fresh mushrooms will give a blue watery look to the top of the jar...if you strain and mix the jar after an extended sit, it will have a very slight blue.
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: mushboy]
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Ever tried it?
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: Amanita86]
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King Crankey--my new band name!
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: nooneman]
#26458592 - 01/29/20 02:12 PM (4 years, 8 hours ago) |
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nooneman said: Blue honey is an interesting concept, but I agree that it's gimmicky and overhyped. It's impossible to dose accurately, and you probably have to consume a larger mass than you would otherwise. I don't even like honey that much anyway (not by itself anyway) so... I have no interest in trying it, and have no doubt that it probably tastes pretty awful. But to each their own, don't let me stop you from enjoying it.
I'll just stick to dried and tea.
It's not gimmicky The Ancient Egyptians stored mushroom extracts in honey to preserve their potency. Its a delicious and healthy way to enjoy the mushrooms. Also Placing undried (living) mushrooms🍄 inside of Honey which comes from (Living) Beings called Honey Bees 🐝 is a WONDERFUL and BLESSED Idea.
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: myco_fun]
#26458595 - 01/29/20 02:14 PM (4 years, 8 hours ago) |
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wilspeak said: Well I understand what You are saying. I guess eating raw mushrooms from the supermarket or anywhere else is also a Botulism risk.
No it's not. The problem comes from the dilution of honey. There are spores within the raw honey but the water concentration is too low for them to germinate.
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wilspeak said: I smell the honey and taste the honey every couple of days to make sure its kept fresh.
This is insufficient. There would be no telltale signs spores had germinated, proliferated and begun to produce botulinum toxin.
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wilspeak said: Honey is one the oldest known antibiotics. The ancient Egyptians frequently used honey as a natural antibiotic and skin protectant. Honey contains hydrogen peroxide, which may account for some of its antibacterial properties.
True. Until you water it down, then it becomes an excellent growth medium. Ever seen a honey liquid culture made from a spore syringe?
It PROBABLY is safe, but why take a chance? Have a read about honey and botulism for interest sake.
yeah, there is blue honey in fridge several YEARS old...to avoid possibility of botulism (or other harmful substance) can't the honey just be added to simmering water....so basically it goes into a tea. the temperature would kill anything unsafe and/or undesirable. right?
I put the magic Honey in the refrigerator to keep it Fresh and I also add more honey when I eat some of the Blue Honey. , plus the spices (Black Pepper, Turmeric, Ginger, Cinnamon, Loins Mane, Sage) will help preserve it. It will not rot if kept Cold. As a matter of fact. I taste and smell it every few days and it's doing just fine.
Also Placing undried (living) mushrooms🍄inside of Honey which comes from (Living) Beings called Honey Bees 🐝 is a WONDERFUL and BLESSED Idea.
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: Boarders]
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myco_fun said: yeah, there is blue honey in fridge several YEARS old...to avoid possibility of botulism (or other harmful substance) can't the honey just be added to simmering water....so basically it goes into a tea. the temperature would kill anything unsafe and/or undesirable. right?
As the toxin is heat labile, if it were to be boiled for a while it's possible it could be denatured. Swallowing a spoon of goo is a bigger problem.
WHO Botulism Factsheet
I'm not trying to be alarmist, but that picture showing watery honey is the concern. The risk is extraordinarily low, but it's significantly higher than honey with a similar water content to its 'natural' state which carries very little risk as the spores can't germinate.
I eat some of that Blue Honey almost every other day and that Honey has never gotten me sick ... in fact it's very healthy to eat. I also add fresh honey to jar as I eat the mushrooms.
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: wilspeak]
#26458616 - 01/29/20 02:28 PM (4 years, 7 hours ago) |
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When I took that picture, I had just put the mushrooms in the Honey and shook the jar up . So Yes the jar had some air bubbles in it. But I eat some of that Blue Honey almost every other day and that Honey has no bubbles in it now , nor does it smell bad and has never gotten me sick ... in fact, it's very healthy to eat. I also add fresh honey to the jar as I eat the mushrooms. Thank You
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: wilspeak]
#26459231 - 01/29/20 09:33 PM (4 years, 53 minutes ago) |
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I’ve done it with freshies, the water was pulled out the fruits and separated from the honey. No bueno
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Question..... Did you shake the jar on a regular basis And keep that jar in the Refrigerator to keep it COLD And Fresh? I doubt it. Because My Jar of Blue Honey is Kept COLD, wrapped in dark bags and shaken up regularly and is Delicious. Mucho Bueno 😀🍄🥰🐝
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: wilspeak]
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I am thinking about adding some sort of strong Rum to the Blue Honey to help combat any possible botulism.
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: wilspeak]
#26462634 - 01/31/20 06:29 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Rum will add more water, don't do that. Just leave it as it is and be happy.
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: Boarders]
#26462706 - 01/31/20 07:27 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ok, I just thought the alcohol would help. Thank You
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: wilspeak]
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Can someone help me? This website seems a little intimidating to me so much info. I just added local honey to a small Mason jar of fresh picked shrooms. The source had a video showing them being picked out of a pasture and turning blue immediately. So I filled the jar with honey and put in my closet. Im wanting to trip with a friend in December but don't know if we're supposed to eat the shrooms or add the honey to food of choice? Seems like the honey would be sweet so how much dosage of the shrooms or how much honey should we ingest to trip? Years ago I simply picked fresh and ate but was waiting for friend to celebrate our birthday just never made blue honey before. Can someone give me some incite of what I should do.
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What is it, like 20mg of psilocybin per 1g dried, and 1g dried is 10g wet? So the study I saw said 30mg pure psilocybin was still a microdose, but that's 1.5g, so to answer your question, I have no idea and don't want to be responsible. Give me the jar and I'll be your guinea pig.
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: Sub-Easy]
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Sub-Easy said: What is it, like 20mg of psilocybin per 1g dried, and 1g dried is 10g wet? So the study I saw said 30mg pure psilocybin was still a microdose, but that's 1.5g, so to answer your question, I have no idea and don't want to be responsible. Give me the jar and I'll be your guinea pig.
Try it that Blue Honey turned out great and I didnt get sick like everyone was saying. Just keep the jar in the refrigerator
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Re: POWERFUL BLUE HONEY [Re: wilspeak]
#27589566 - 12/21/21 02:36 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you put raw undried mushrooms in honey it will grow mycelium.
From the picture in the OP it looks like the honey contains a live culture for sure. This is what we'd expect after all. You put live fruits to agar to get a culture. Honey is a bit high in sugar to culture, but when you put that much mushrooms in, the honey becomes diluted and mycelium grows.
Your jar definitely looks like it contains living mushroom cultures...
Not saying that is a bad thing by the way. I could see someone getting sick from it, I could also see it being healthy. Probably tastes a lot funkier. I'd try it.
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