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James "Whitey" Bulger claimed he was a guinea pig for the CIA and dosed with heavy doses of LSD
#26423328 - 01/08/20 05:22 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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James "Whitey" Bulger, former Boston Irish mob boss who rose as high as #2 on the FBI's Most Wanted worldwide list.


(Top photo is actual photo of James Bulger; bottom photo is Johnny Depp playing James Bulger in the 2015 movie Black Mass)
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In 1957, while a prisoner at the Atlanta penitentiary, I was recruited by Dr. Carl Pfeiffer of Emory University to join a medical project that was researching a cure for schizophrenia. For our participation, we would receive three days of good time for each month on the project. Each week we would be locked in a secure room in the basement of the prison hospital, in an area where mental patients were housed. We went in from 9 a.m. Tuesday to 9 a.m. Wednesday. We were injected with massive doses of LSD-25.
In minutes the drug would take over, and about eight or nine men — Dr. Pfeiffer and several men in suits who were not doctors — would give us tests to see how we reacted. Eight convicts in a panic and paranoid state. Total loss of appetite. Hallucinating. The room would change shape. Hours of paranoia and feeling violent. We experienced horrible periods of living nightmares and even blood coming out of the walls. Guys turning to skeletons in front of me. I saw a camera change into the head of a dog. I felt like I was going insane.
The men in suits would be in a room and hook me up to machines, asking questions like: Did you ever kill anyone? Would you kill someone? Two men went psychotic. They had all the symptoms of schizophrenia. They had to be pried loose from under their beds, growling, barking and frothing at the mouth. They put them in a strip cell down the hall. I never saw or heard of them again. They failed the Babinski test.
Lots of tests that have caused me sleeping problems and nightmares to the present. They told us we were helping find a cure for schizophrenia. When it was all over, everyone would feel suicidal and depressed, wrung out emotionally. Time would stand still. I tried to quit, but Dr. Pfeiffer would appeal to me: “Please, you’re my best subject, and we are close to finding the cure.”
Years later, when I read the book The Search for the Manchurian Candidate, which came out in 1979 and was written by State Department whistle-blower John Marks, I found out there was a CIA project code-named MK Ultra. The project was a violation of my rights, using prisoners for dangerous tests. I was angry reading that because I’d never mentioned how I felt hallucinating. I kept silent because I thought they might commit me to a mental institution.
I never slept more than two or three hours a night, waking up in cold sweats with side effects. The tests damaged my sleep and gave me nightmares. I had to sleep with the lights on and only for a few hours at a time. The government used us and never tried to help us out after injecting us with government LSD. I’ve had brain scans that told me I was damaged by the tests. The government did a number on us and walked. If anybody opened a shop selling LSD in my neighborhood he would have lost his life.
https://www.ozy.com/true-story/whitey-bulger-i-was-a-guinea-pig-for-cia-drug-experiments/76409/
Bulger wrote this from prison in 2017. He was murdered in prison in 2018.
I wonder how much they dosed him with?
He obviously didn't have the enlightening, profound, life changing experience that some would have hoped for.
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Re: James "Whitey" Bulger claimed he was a guinea pig for the CIA and dosed with heavy doses of LSD [Re: Niffla]
#26423460 - 01/08/20 07:06 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not too many people IV LSD..
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Re: James "Whitey" Bulger claimed he was a guinea pig for the CIA and dosed with heavy doses of LSD [Re: Amanita86] 1
#26423483 - 01/08/20 07:21 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I mean he was already fucked up in the head
probably made him a smarter criminal
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Re: James "Whitey" Bulger claimed he was a guinea pig for the CIA and dosed with heavy doses of LSD [Re: cannabinated]
#26423652 - 01/08/20 09:37 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I’ll admit that when he got transferred to WV and cancelled out within hours I chuckled a little bit. I know I should be more sympathetic but it was sort of like, how do I say this... like when your team scores a touchdown first kickoff of the game.. I’ve been by that prison.
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Re: James "Whitey" Bulger claimed he was a guinea pig for the CIA and dosed with heavy doses of LSD [Re: Amanita86]
#26423750 - 01/08/20 10:40 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Everything they did, from set and setting, administration, follow up, integration, education, was WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.
You abuse anybody with anything for the first time, and they're going to be left with the impression that nothing good may come of it.
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Re: James "Whitey" Bulger claimed he was a guinea pig for the CIA and dosed with heavy doses of LSD [Re: Niffla] 2
#26423799 - 01/09/20 12:05 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Niffla said: James "Whitey" Bulger, former Boston Irish mob boss who rose as high as #2 on the FBI's Most Wanted worldwide list.

OMG OMG OMFG!
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18348908/fpart/1/vc/1
It was the oirish mafia all along, and where's Esekan now? eh?
Edited by deucedbi9 (01/09/20 12:18 AM)
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Re: James "Whitey" Bulger claimed he was a guinea pig for the CIA and dosed with heavy doses of LSD [Re: Amanita86]
#26423803 - 01/09/20 12:24 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Amanita86 said: Not too many people IV LSD..
I've done it.
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Re: James "Whitey" Bulger claimed he was a guinea pig for the CIA and dosed with heavy doses of LSD [Re: Northerner]
#26423818 - 01/09/20 12:58 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ha ha fucking snitch
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Re: James "Whitey" Bulger claimed he was a guinea pig for the CIA and dosed with heavy doses of LSD [Re: viraldrome] 1
#26423861 - 01/09/20 02:08 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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My moms friend’s husband was murdered by Whitey Bulger
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Re: James "Whitey" Bulger claimed he was a guinea pig for the CIA and dosed with heavy doses of LSD [Re: Northerner]
#26423865 - 01/09/20 02:10 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Northerner said:
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Amanita86 said: Not too many people IV LSD..
I've done it. 
I’ve done it too. It’s nothing special. Surprisingly, it still takes a bit of time to ramp up. You aren’t instantly tripping.
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Re: James "Whitey" Bulger claimed he was a guinea pig for the CIA and dosed with heavy doses of LSD [Re: koods]
#26423919 - 01/09/20 03:10 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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koods said:
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Northerner said:
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Amanita86 said: Not too many people IV LSD..
I've done it. 
I’ve done it too. It’s nothing special. Surprisingly, it still takes a bit of time to ramp up. You aren’t instantly tripping.
Exactly my experience.
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Re: James "Whitey" Bulger claimed he was a guinea pig for the CIA and dosed with heavy doses of LSD [Re: deucedbi9]
#26424128 - 01/09/20 08:20 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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deucedbi9 said:
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Niffla said: James "Whitey" Bulger, former Boston Irish mob boss who rose as high as #2 on the FBI's Most Wanted worldwide list.

OMG OMG OMFG!
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18348908/fpart/1/vc/1
It was the oirish mafia all along, and where's Esekan now? eh?

Omg it was Bulger who killed Esekon
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Re: James "Whitey" Bulger claimed he was a guinea pig for the CIA and dosed with heavy doses of LSD [Re: Niffla]
#26424166 - 01/09/20 08:47 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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So the man got free drugs paid for by your taxes?
You guys should be outraged.
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Re: James "Whitey" Bulger claimed he was a guinea pig for the CIA and dosed with heavy doses of LSD [Re: Patlal]
#26424169 - 01/09/20 08:49 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am outraged, where are my free drugs.
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Re: James "Whitey" Bulger claimed he was a guinea pig for the CIA and dosed with heavy doses of LSD [Re: Crazy_Horse]
#26424271 - 01/09/20 09:53 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crazy_Horse said: I am outraged, where are my free drugs.
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Re: James "Whitey" Bulger claimed he was a guinea pig for the CIA and dosed with heavy doses of LSD [Re: Northerner]
#26424320 - 01/09/20 10:20 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Northerner said:
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Amanita86 said: Not too many people IV LSD..
I've done it. 
How was it prepared? I imagine you would need quite the baby syringe to shoot 200 or so mcg. Was it suspended in any sort of fluid?
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Re: James "Whitey" Bulger claimed he was a guinea pig for the CIA and dosed with heavy doses of LSD [Re: Amanita86] 2
#26424329 - 01/09/20 10:25 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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No surprise that a ruthless murderer had terrible, hellish trips.
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Re: James "Whitey" Bulger claimed he was a guinea pig for the CIA and dosed with heavy doses of LSD [Re: Dark_Star] 1
#26424340 - 01/09/20 10:31 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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He was probably a bad egg to begin with. He was already locked up, I wonder what for. I would guess his poor decision making, if you want to call it that, was already in there long before any trips came along.
Not an ideal terrain for hella psychedelic to run through.
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Re: James "Whitey" Bulger claimed he was a guinea pig for the CIA and dosed with heavy doses of LSD [Re: Amanita86]
#26424361 - 01/09/20 10:41 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I doubt they gave him LSD. What, they give him LSD and train him to kill for the Mob? I really doubt this story is true. Probably just trying to turn more people against the CIA.
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Re: James "Whitey" Bulger claimed he was a guinea pig for the CIA and dosed with heavy doses of LSD [Re: Lophosaurus] 1
#26424470 - 01/09/20 11:35 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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LOL
so rather than believing a proven conspiracy you want to make one up about turning the public against the CIA
The CIA needs no help with that
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