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Re: How often can I trip without repercussions? [Re: BabylonRuleDem]
    #26422146 - 01/07/20 10:44 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Ha, good looking out man. I was doing the same thing but then here he comes saying sumpin all toopid... I'm getting off of here. Can't do it anymore today
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Re: How often can I trip without repercussions? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26422155 - 01/07/20 10:55 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Ok ok...just one more
We got off on the right foot with you agreeing with me and my tough love approach...

TheStallionMang said:
This is a totally normal thing..KoreanJesus, you're thinking too much and worrying about dumb shit.  I'd say your eyes/vision are totally safe when it comes to trippin.  It's your pansy ass mentality that makes me think this isn't safe for you.

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Mmm I’m starting to agree with you actually Stallion




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Be careful doing whatever Stallion does. You might end up like him.




But now this?!  C'mon man, I thought you said you wanted to drop it...


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Re: How often can I trip without repercussions? [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #26422171 - 01/07/20 11:05 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Hey stallion try to relax, no point getting banned over an "expert" with 5 trips under his belt(all in a 2 week period:facepalm:) and 2 months of psychedelic experience:smilingpuppy:

Get some sleep man, all is good


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Re: How often can I trip without repercussions? [Re: feldman114]
    #26422182 - 01/07/20 11:17 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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feldman114 said:
As far as I know, there are no adverse long-term health problems associated with occasional tripping. At the same time, eating a QP in 2 weeks will likely send me to the loony bin.

So, where should I draw the line?

I wanna trip as much as possible cause mushrooms. But I don’t want it to fuck with my health AND I don’t wanna overload myself mentally.

For example, I took 3.5 on New Years and another 3.5 last night. When can I safely trip again?




I've tripped full on doses (adjusted for tolerance obviously) 3-5 days a week for months at a time, when I had a reason to do so.

The only downside ever was when I eventually stopped cold there were a few days of blunted affect as your tolerance subsides, things seem emotionally barren and it's hard to get motivated.  But it passes quickly.  That's it.  No weird mental shit unless you started out with that. :laugh2:

These were trips that bring OEV during the peak, which was my target.  After full tolerance set in (it peaks out) it took around 200-250 g fresh (as tea) of ordinary cubes, and about 150 g fresh of PE to maintain the daily regime.

Here's a sample of my trip journal from one of those times re dosage:



tl;dr  there is no line


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Re: How often can I trip without repercussions? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26422226 - 01/08/20 12:15 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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BabylonRuleDem said:
Hey stallion try to relax, no point getting banned over an "expert" with 5 trips under his belt(all in a 2 week period:facepalm:) and 2 months of psychedelic experience:smilingpuppy:

Get some sleep man, all is good



Did you two just jerk each other off for a full page of posts because I took a small shot at one of you? And you can't even count correctly? Jesus christ...

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feldman114 said:
As far as I know, there are no adverse long-term health problems associated with occasional tripping. At the same time, eating a QP in 2 weeks will likely send me to the loony bin.

So, where should I draw the line?

I wanna trip as much as possible cause mushrooms. But I don’t want it to fuck with my health AND I don’t wanna overload myself mentally.

For example, I took 3.5 on New Years and another 3.5 last night. When can I safely trip again?




I've tripped full on doses (adjusted for tolerance obviously) 3-5 days a week for months at a time, when I had a reason to do so.

The only downside ever was when I eventually stopped cold there were a few days of blunted affect as your tolerance subsides, things seem emotionally barren and it's hard to get motivated.  But it passes quickly.  That's it.  No weird mental shit unless you started out with that. :laugh2:

These were trips that bring OEV during the peak, which was my target.  After full tolerance set in (it peaks out) it took around 200-250 g fresh (as tea) of ordinary cubes, and about 150 g fresh of PE to maintain the daily regime.

Here's a sample of my trip journal from one of those times re dosage:



tl;dr  there is no line



Do you think doses that high could have an adverse effect on heart health? Also, on an unrelated note, have you ever thought about what would happen if you took 150g or 250g without tolerance?


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Re: How often can I trip without repercussions? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26422268 - 01/08/20 01:27 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Close enough to get the point across.

If you wanna watch this Paul Stamets describes a, IIRC, 20g dry dose without tolerance (may have been his first experience, i don't remember its been awhile since i watched it) that according to him cured his stutter


EDIT: Starts at about 35 mins


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Re: How often can I trip without repercussions? [Re: BabylonRuleDem]
    #26422277 - 01/08/20 01:36 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

The advice here is terrible. You should not trip more than once a month.


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Re: How often can I trip without repercussions? [Re: viraldrome]
    #26422285 - 01/08/20 01:42 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Ideally yes, and you get more out of it.
However, 2 weeks is generally enough to get most people back to baseline(zero tolerance)


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Re: How often can I trip without repercussions? [Re: DJ Ed] * 1
    #26422412 - 01/08/20 06:38 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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DJ Ed said:
Hey brother,

Yeah, I’m starting to “lose the magic” already. It sucks cause I finally got so comfortable with mushrooms that I can take them for fun

You’ve definitely got your head screwed on and are listening to our advice. Thumbs up to you, fella.

Yeah, when you lose the magic, the trips will become, dare I say, “boring”. And we don’t want that! Give your self a break for two weeks. Try the same 3.5g dose. Trust me. Then decide how much to increase your next trip doseage by, after at least another two weeks.

Then come back here, tell us how you got on, nd maybe a trip report. Let yourself go, trip alone, and I promise your trip will be intense and rewarding. Then if you jump to 4g; you WILL notice a difference. Trust me on all of this, hopefully the shroomery will back me up.

Definitely take the break, and best of luck to you.
DJ Ed



I would have to agree with this completely. If trips are starting to become "boring", AKA losing their magic- a  break is needed. I've been down that rabbit hole. Taking 3/4g every other weekend and it was just getting a tad boring. Waited a few weeks and let everything settle and the magic came back more than ever.

Taking that break is so worth it. I know they can be fun.. and majestical. But everything in moderation. When it starts to lose its spark- that's saying a lot. Of course if you decide to take 5g+ you won't be saying that:lol: but you're taking it slow, just like me.

And my dose is around 4/4.5. Perfect (FOR ME)


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Re: How often can I trip without repercussions? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26422422 - 01/08/20 06:56 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

As people have stated, it depends on the person
and the dose.

I, at least in my younger shell with less responsibility, can easily handle taking 500mg - 1.5g doses on a daily basis for an exteneded - and have, for probably half a year at that point in time.
It didn't lose the magic; some doses were mild, some were strong; cubes vary in potency. But, as far as my tolerance and mental well-being were concerned, it was a fantastic time the whole way through.

Now, if you're taking 2g+ and heavily hallucinating on the daily, that's when you start to get spent and notice the tolerance buildup.

Really, my opinion now is that you can take µ (100mg - 300mg) doses daily. Mild (500mg - 2g) weekly. Moderate (3g - 5g) doses monthly. And heavy (5g+) doses quarterly.
It sounds oddly specific because it is. To me.

Also mentioned is the potential cardiac risk of prolonged use. As far as I can tell, there is basically no real evidence to back that up and your cheeseburger is probably gonna get you before the mushrooms.


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Re: How often can I trip without repercussions? [Re: footpath]
    #26422573 - 01/08/20 09:26 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Shiit, guess there’s nothing like a beef to spice a thread up lol

Thanks again everyone, some primo info here. Wish I was on my laptop so I could quote/respond individually but I’m a full-time office slave, so I’m doing this ninja-style on my phone.

Omg whoever said they got their dosage up to 150g wet PE - you’re a trooper man. You should have a “Trusted Traveler” badge. Also makes me feel better about wanting to trip again next weekend hehe...:shrug:


From what I’m seeing, looks like there is no “line” to tread with mushrooms. I’m planning increase my breaks by 1 day with each trip, until I feel the “magic” again.gonna stick with 3.5g PE blobs.


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Re: How often can I trip without repercussions? [Re: feldman114]
    #26422603 - 01/08/20 09:47 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

They're slopping burgers all over our psychedelic experience...

Yeah, 30g doses (for me) are reserved for only so often. Meaning three times in the past 15 years. So, once every 5 years, take down 300 wet grams.

(Not actually recommending that.

... necessarily.)


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Re: How often can I trip without repercussions? [Re: footpath]
    #26422615 - 01/08/20 09:53 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Oh man that must be something.
I’m still working up the courage to eat 10g..

My 7g trips were the best, but got a bit dark during the peak... complete with Face-melting sensations and a visit from dead relatives.


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Re: How often can I trip without repercussions? [Re: feldman114]
    #26422640 - 01/08/20 10:00 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It's common to hear, and I can attest, that the higher doses are actually an easier ride.
Having a grip on reality can give you whiplash.
When you have no choice but to fully check out, it seems like there's nothing there to trouble you.
Landing back down can be a little turbulent from time to time... but nothing like being halfway between worlds.


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Re: How often can I trip without repercussions? [Re: viraldrome]
    #26422643 - 01/08/20 10:02 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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viraldrome said:
The advice here is terrible. You should not trip more than once a month.




Nobody is suggesting to OP that he should trip as often as he can.


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Re: How often can I trip without repercussions? [Re: footpath]
    #26422702 - 01/08/20 10:27 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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footpath said:
It's common to hear, and I can attest, that the higher doses are actually an easier ride.
Having a grip on reality can give you whiplash.
When you have no choice but to fully check out, it seems like there's nothing there to trouble you.
Landing back down can be a little turbulent from time to time... but nothing like being halfway between worlds.




I heard of this but...well...I guess I’m a bit of a bitch lol. Like I’ve made a 10g tea multiple times, then pussied out of chugging the whole thing.

Maybe after hearing about all yous people’s 30g trips, I’ll go for it next time🤞🤞🤞


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Re: How often can I trip without repercussions? [Re: feldman114]
    #26422867 - 01/08/20 12:15 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

5g was the most intense experience of my life. I’m not sure I wouldn’t get PTSD or traumatized or whatever from something higher, although I’m super curious about what it’d be like. Maybe down the line when I have a lot more tripping experience


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Re: How often can I trip without repercussions? [Re: feldman114] * 1
    #26422940 - 01/08/20 01:05 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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So, where should I draw the line?





I did 1-2g of ape almost everyday for a month and after that I've routinely shroomed 2 or 3 times a week for the last two years.

Test your limits know yourself. I found that nobody knows more about my experiences than I do. Tolerance is a weird thing. I think it's all in your head. Just as long as I feed the fire I can trip daily.

Fueling the fire is more about set and setting style stuff.


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Re: How often can I trip without repercussions? [Re: mushboy]
    #26422944 - 01/08/20 01:09 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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mushboy said:
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feldman114 said:

So, where should I draw the line?




Tolerance is a weird thing. I think it's all in your head. Just as long as I feed the fire I can trip daily.

Fueling the fire is more about set and setting style stuff.




Maybe some of it, but the vast majority of tolerance is biological. Your system simply becomes more efficient at processing psilocybin with repeated exposure.


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Re: How often can I trip without repercussions? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26422982 - 01/08/20 01:34 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

What changes that biology is so very extensive and intricate, you can't just say your system 'simply' does anything.
Considering much of that efficiency has to do with neurological function as well as digestive/absorptive functions, you also can't possibly say the 'vast majority' of it does anything.

Weren't you just recently talking shit on everyone here for not honoring individuality?


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