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Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system
#26421393 - 01/07/20 03:49 PM (4 years, 22 days ago) |
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Think this is worthy of some degree of reflection
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A student from Indonesia was identified as Britain's most prolific rapist on Monday after being convicted of more than 150 offences, including 136 rapes.
In four separate trials, Reynhard Sinaga, 36, was found guilty of assaulting 48 men whom he drugged after taking them back to his apartment from outside bars and clubs in the city of Manchester.
Many of the victims were lured by the offer of a place to sleep or more drink, and Sinaga filmed the assaults on his mobile phone, the U.K. Crown Prosecution Service said.
At a court in Manchester, a judge ruled that Sinaga must serve at least 30 years in prison for 159 offences committed between January 2015 and May 2017, and lifted reporting restrictions.
Ian Rushton, a government prosecutor, described Sinaga as the "most prolific rapist in British legal history."
Sinaga, who has lived in the United Kingdom since 2007, targeted young men who looked drunk or vulnerable and rendered them unconscious with a sedative, probably the party drug gamma-hydroxybutyric acid that is known as GHB, the court was told.
The victims were mainly heterosexual and had little or no memory of the attacks. But Sinaga was arrested after one of his victims woke up during an attack, fought him off and went to the police with one of his phones.
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Police discovered graphic material — equivalent to 250 DVDs or 300,000 photos — depicting sexual assaults on Sinaga's digital devices. Sinaga had said his victims were acting out sexual fantasies.
The court was told Sinaga kept men's belongings as trophies and looked them up on Facebook.
The rape investigation is the largest in British legal history. It is the first time prosecutors have split charges across four separate trials.
Police said there could be many more victims and are appealing for others who may have been targeted to come forward.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/britain-most-prolific-rapist-1.5416541
Ton of unwitting and unaware victims, but "fortunately" he was twisted enough to document it all so those who can't remember the violation can still see some justice for it
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: Tantrika] 5
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.....this is why I still support death penalty.
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: spirit_shadow]
#26421420 - 01/07/20 04:11 PM (4 years, 22 days ago) |
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spirit_shadow said: .....this is why I still support death penalty.
I man who levies the sentence should be the one to wield the sword.
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: Tantrika]
#26421432 - 01/07/20 04:22 PM (4 years, 22 days ago) |
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You know, those men decided to take something from the guy offering, so they are partly to blame here. But yeah, a predator is a predator. When I lived in New Orleans I was told by the locals to look around me every once in a while to help prevent people stalking the drunk/weak, like buzzards looking for the near dead. It's a fucking jungle out there.
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: SARAtonin] 1
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spirit_shadow said: .....this is why I still support death penalty.
I man who levies the sentence should be the one to wield the sword. 
Give me the chance, gladly
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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I don't think they knowingly took ghb. Probably alcohol spiked with the g.
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: MrMoon]
#26421500 - 01/07/20 04:58 PM (4 years, 22 days ago) |
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There has to be a record for everything.
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: MrMoon]
#26421508 - 01/07/20 05:00 PM (4 years, 22 days ago) |
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So he could possibly get out in 30 years?
After being convicted of 136 rapes?
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: Niffla] 2
#26421567 - 01/07/20 05:34 PM (4 years, 22 days ago) |
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This is the type of thing where he doesn't really deserve to ever get out. Even a single rape is damn near irredeemable if we hadn't seen Mike Tyson turn in to a decent man, but 150+? Just kill the guy so he's not wasting tax dollars. He doesn't even sound safe to release in to a healthy prison population.
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: larry.fisherman]
#26421575 - 01/07/20 05:40 PM (4 years, 22 days ago) |
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Well they rape in prison apparently
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: larry.fisherman]
#26421586 - 01/07/20 05:45 PM (4 years, 22 days ago) |
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larry.fisherman said: This is the type of thing where he doesn't really deserve to ever get out. Even a single rape is damn near irredeemable if we hadn't seen Mike Tyson turn in to a decent man, but 150+? Just kill the guy so he's not wasting tax dollars. He doesn't even sound safe to release in to a healthy prison population.
I don't know if my math is correct but if he was to somehow actually get out in 30 years, he would have effectively served a little over 2 and a half months per rape.
As bad as that would be though, that wouldn't even be the most egregious thing of this nature that I've ever heard.
That would belong to Pedro Lopez. "The Monster of the Andes" as he was known. Serial killer who targeted, raped and murdered young girls. He was convicted of killing 110 (ponder that for a moment if you can) young girls. He claimed to kill more than 300.
He spent 14 years in prison. Fourteen. And then was released. Seriously. Look it up.
Of course he killed again as soon as he got out.
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: MrMoon]
#26421595 - 01/07/20 05:49 PM (4 years, 22 days ago) |
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MrMoon said: I don't think they knowingly took ghb. Probably alcohol spiked with the g.
No, but they took what was offered and he preyed on them, it's a sick game for those unfortunate to get that severe of a predator. Maybe they were looking to take advantage of someone too, who knows. Shit could have happened to me a few times I'm sure.
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: Niffla] 1
#26421956 - 01/07/20 08:31 PM (4 years, 21 days ago) |
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larry.fisherman said: This is the type of thing where he doesn't really deserve to ever get out. Even a single rape is damn near irredeemable if we hadn't seen Mike Tyson turn in to a decent man, but 150+? Just kill the guy so he's not wasting tax dollars. He doesn't even sound safe to release in to a healthy prison population.
I don't know if my math is correct but if he was to somehow actually get out in 30 years, he would have effectively served a little over 2 and a half months per rape.
As bad as that would be though, that wouldn't even be the most egregious thing of this nature that I've ever heard.
That would belong to Pedro Lopez. "The Monster of the Andes" as he was known. Serial killer who targeted, raped and murdered young girls. He was convicted of killing 110 (ponder that for a moment if you can) young girls. He claimed to kill more than 300.
He spend 14 years in prison. Fourteen. And then was released. Seriously. Look it up.
Of course he killed again as soon as he got out.
Closest I know of to that was this dude:
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/08/a-different-justice-why-anders-breivik-only-got-21-years-for-killing-77-people/261532/
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: tyrannicalrex] 2
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MrMoon said: I don't think they knowingly took ghb. Probably alcohol spiked with the g.
No, but they took what was offered and he preyed on them, it's a sick game for those unfortunate to get that severe of a predator. Maybe they were looking to take advantage of someone too, who knows. Shit could have happened to me a few times I'm sure.
I know 'victim blaming' gets tossed around a lot, but dude I can't believe you are being serious. Accepting a beer is tantamount to taking a handful of random pills at a party where you don't know a single person? By that logic, every time you leave your house you are consenting to any and all crimes because you should know it's a dangerous world
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: tyrannicalrex] 2
#26422394 - 01/08/20 06:08 AM (4 years, 21 days ago) |
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tyrannicalrex said: You know, those men decided to take something from the guy offering, so they are partly to blame here. But yeah, a predator is a predator. When I lived in New Orleans I was told by the locals to look around me every once in a while to help prevent people stalking the drunk/weak, like buzzards looking for the near dead. It's a fucking jungle out there.
The person at fault for rape is the rapist, don't blame the victims

but do think that your post sort of alludes to a bit of a larger social issue warnings to beware of things like this are frequent for women and girls; advice to never put your drink down or accept a drink from someone cis-het men are exposed to such warnings, but typically do not live in a sphere where they are common place concerns
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: Niffla]
#26422399 - 01/08/20 06:15 AM (4 years, 21 days ago) |
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Niffla said: So he could possibly get out in 30 years?
After being convicted of 136 rapes?
rapists are kind of notorious for getting soft sentences compared to the disgust response such issues have
but at a guess, the particular "issue" here may have something to do with needing victims to press charges perhaps he was found guilty of abstract crime, but without a victim to gauge the damage the punishment cannot be as severe?
making this up in my mind from a few combined aspects of the story:
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...convicted of more than 150 offences, including 136 rapes. In four separate trials, Reynhard Sinaga, 36, was found guilty of assaulting 48 men ...
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At a court in Manchester, a judge ... and lifted reporting restrictions.
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Police said there could be many more victims and are appealing for others who may have been targeted to come forward.

think this guy executed a sort of perfect storm of rape tho he selected victims who were already intoxicated, making it difficult to remember or identify him he drugged them making it difficult to remember the assault and he selected cis heterosexual men, potentially making his victim group the least likely to report a presumed rape for fear of social emasculation over a gay experience
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: Niffla]
#26422607 - 01/08/20 09:48 AM (4 years, 21 days ago) |
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What a disgusting worthless animal. Seriously throw the whole fucking court room at him and lock him up for life.
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larry.fisherman said: This is the type of thing where he doesn't really deserve to ever get out. Even a single rape is damn near irredeemable if we hadn't seen Mike Tyson turn in to a decent man, but 150+? Just kill the guy so he's not wasting tax dollars. He doesn't even sound safe to release in to a healthy prison population.
I don't know if my math is correct but if he was to somehow actually get out in 30 years, he would have effectively served a little over 2 and a half months per rape.
As bad as that would be though, that wouldn't even be the most egregious thing of this nature that I've ever heard.
That would belong to Pedro Lopez. "The Monster of the Andes" as he was known. Serial killer who targeted, raped and murdered young girls. He was convicted of killing 110 (ponder that for a moment if you can) young girls. He claimed to kill more than 300.
He spent 14 years in prison. Fourteen. And then was released. Seriously. Look it up.
Of course he killed again as soon as he got out.
Reminds me of the criminal corrections system in Norway. Believe me the Norwegian system of rehabilitating criminals is infinitely better than the idiotic American and U.K system of throwing anyone in jail to do hard time for petty crimes like drug use or drug dealing or petty theft. I don't believe tossing people in jail willy nilly to do hard time for minor crimes is productive or helpful to anyone and it only helps turn petty criminals into hardened criminals. But the Norwegians are really ass backwards when it comes to dealing with mass murders like the guy you mentioned. Norway doesn't sentence ANYONE for more than 20 years and their sentence is merely receiving mental health treatment and criminal rehabilitation. They don't do anytime of hard time or hard punishment like they do here in America. Anders Behring Brevik who murdered 77 people in a rampage is going to be freed from prison in Norway and be allowed to resume life the way he once did. I guarantee you he will commit another mass killing, there is no way someone like that can be rehabilitated and redeemed. Norwegians are highly socially advanced country and people but FUCK these people are so damn delusional and soft. This prick should have been executed.
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: bloodsheen]
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No, I don't entirely blame the victims, but in the gay bar scene there is a lot of back and forth with users and predators. That rapist could have escalated to murder easily if he got bored I'm sure. Look at the guy, there's no way he could overpower anyone physically without some knockout drugs. The victims (some of them?) may have talked to him an he also may be a fantastic manipulator, obviously.
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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MrMoon said: I don't think they knowingly took ghb. Probably alcohol spiked with the g.
No, but they took what was offered and he preyed on them, it's a sick game for those unfortunate to get that severe of a predator. Maybe they were looking to take advantage of someone too, who knows. Shit could have happened to me a few times I'm sure.
I don’t know why ppl are interpreting this as victim blaming. I don’t see it
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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tyrannicalrex said: No, I don't entirely blame the victims, but in the gay bar scene there is a lot of back and forth with users and predators. That rapist could have escalated to murder easily if he got bored I'm sure. Look at the guy, there's no way he could overpower anyone physically without some knockout drugs. The victims (some of them?) may have talked to him an he also may be a fantastic manipulator, obviously.
Can respect your insights with regards to the gay bar scene but that is part of my attempts to call to light certain facts about this case it didn't happen in the gay bar scene, he tended to target heterosexual men
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Sinaga typically approached his victims in the street. The rapist operated in a small area surrounding his flat. His targets were men mostly in their late teens or early 20s who had been out drinking, often in the nearby nightclubs.
Some were on their way home, others had become separated from friends.
Many were too drunk to remember their conversation with Sinaga, but for those who did there was no indication of a sexual motive. Sinaga used various pretexts to entice each to his flat.
Some victims could recall being provided with a drink and then blacking out.
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Sinaga presented himself as a flamboyant, churchgoing academic who used the nickname "posh spice". A thin man of slight build and short stature, physically he appeared unthreatening. Several victims recall him smiling a lot.
It was this apparent harmlessness that enabled Sinaga to pose as a "good Samaritan", coaxing men he approached back to the flat.
We know about the benign impression Sinaga created because dozens of victims gave testimony to police, with 48 of them appearing in court over the course of four trials.
Of the victims who went to court, the vast majority were heterosexual. Ian Rushton, from the Crown Prosecution Service, said he thought Sinaga took "a particular pleasure in preying on heterosexual men".
Most of his victims were living in Manchester at the time and, in all, 26 were students when they were attacked.
Their accounts explain how Sinaga operated.
One was waiting for his girlfriend outside Fifth Avenue nightclub - since renamed Fifth Manchester - when he was approached by a "small Asian guy" who seemed harmless.
The man was invited back to Sinaga's flat to wait for his girlfriend, but recalled nothing further after being given a shot of clear liquid to drink.
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Another man described being "approached by a young Asian gentleman". He said he had a "vague recollection of explaining that my phone was dead and that I was trying to get a taxi but the taxis were passing me".
He added: "I think I can recall a conversation along the lines of, 'Would you like to come inside and charge your phone and have a quick chat,'" he told the court.
To him, Sinaga "didn't seem like an imposing character" and during their conversations in the apartment, he appeared to be "an honest, motivated person" with an interest in academic research.
The man told the court that soon after being offered a drink, he couldn't remember "a single thing until the next morning".
After waking, confused and disoriented, he left within five minutes.
Like almost every victim, he had no idea he had been raped until being approached by police.
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Another victim remembered his friends putting him in a cab outside a club. His next recollection was waking up in a strange apartment.
When he asked Sinaga what had happened, he described providing care and shelter after finding him lying in the street.
Another victim believed Sinaga had been "really nice and had looked after him".
One victim, a teenage university student, managed to get Sinaga's mobile number as a precaution after waking up in the flat, and then having concerns that something might have been stolen from him.
When he rang to ask for more information about what happened, Sinaga described himself as a "good Samaritan" who had found him unconscious on the pavement.
Another man remembered waking up on the floor, covered in a blanket, before thanking the flat's occupier for letting him stay over.
He suspected nothing, even though the person "refused to give me personal details" in order to assist with an insurance claim for a lost mobile phone.
The phone, like many others stolen from their owners, was later recovered from Sinaga's home by police.
Some victims felt incredibly unwell after regaining consciousness, sometimes naked and covered in vomit.
Unknown to them at the time, Sinaga had given his victims a drug - almost certainly GHB - which rendered them unconscious before he assaulted them.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50688975
Rather than people going out expecting to hook up at a gay bar and getting exploited he picked people off the street, drugged them, raped them, then acted like he helped them
interestingly, in court he even tried to claim he victims were secretly gay
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His victims recounted that they rarely felt threatened by Sinaga, who had a slight build, according to the PA Media news agency. One victim said he seemed "really nice" and thought he had merely looked after him after his phone died and he had been separated from his friends on a night out. "That night was just like any night out with my mates. What I didn't know was that there was a monster lurking in the background waiting to take advantage of my drunken state," PA quoted one victim as saying. "I want Sinaga to acknowledge what he has done to me and show some remorse, but I doubt that will ever happen." Sinaga claimed in court that the men he attacked had in fact consented to have sex with him, and were pretending to be unconscious to fulfill his fantasy. Prosecutors branded that defense "preposterous," PA reported. In court, he claimed victims had individually lied to police in order to not be outed as gay. "It is not an easy thing for some people to come out as gay. That has probably influenced the way they want to answer it," PA quoted him as saying. "They were probably scared that, 'what if my girlfriend finds out I was lying and that night I was with a man?'" "Sinaga's unthreatening demeanour duped these young men -- many of whom thanked him for his kindness in offering them a place to stay -- into thinking this monster was a Good Samaritan," Rushton added. "But once back at his flat he used victims as objects purely for his own gratification -- then appears to have derived further twisted pleasure from re-watching his films in court and putting victims through the trauma of giving evidence."
but yeah, in longer account he basically used a cover of seeming like a good person in the community
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The most prolific rapist ever caught in Britain, who spent more than a decade luring dozens of intoxicated young men to his apartment before drugging and sexually assaulting them, has been sentenced to life imprisonment after being found guilty in four separate trials. Reynhard Sinaga was found guilty of 159 counts of sexual offenses against 48 different men, and must serve 30 years before he is considered for release. Police said the true number of his victims is likely to have been higher, having found evidence linking him to assaults on as many as 190 different people. Details of his campaign of assault were suppressed while trials were ongoing, but can now be published. Sinaga, 36, approached men in the early hours of the morning outside nightclubs in Manchester, striking up a conversation and offering them somewhere to sleep or promising them more alcohol.
Once he had brought them to his flat he would lace their drink with a drug -- most likely GHB, police said -- then film himself raping them while they slept. His comatose victims were unaware they had been assaulted. Sinaga's attacks only came to light in 2017, after an 18-year-old victim woke up at 6 a.m. while being assaulted. The victim managed to fight him off, and crucially was able to grab Sinaga's white iPhone before leaving the apartment. He went to police, who discovered 3.29 terabytes of graphic material on Sinaga's phone -- the equivalent to 250 DVDs. In some cases the assaults lasted hours, with one particular attack taking place for eight hours. Sinaga's victims, who were usually heterosexual and were often students, were seen snoring and in some cases vomiting while Sinaga raped them, Britain's Crown Prosecution Service said. When a groggy victim was starting to wake, Sinaga would push them back to the floor to continue his assault, or snatch away his phone to avoid suspicion.
Police believe he began the attacks in 2005 and continued until June 2017. "Reynhard Sinaga is the most prolific rapist in British legal history," Ian Rushton, North West Deputy Chief Crown Prosecutor, said. "His extreme sense of sexual entitlement almost defies belief and he would no doubt still be adding to his staggering tally had he not been caught.
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Little was known about Sinaga and police had no record of him before the morning one of his victims escaped his apartment. He was ultimately found guilty in four separate trials, with cases split given the number of victims and assaults involved. Police said around 70 victims have not yet been identified. Juries heard how Sinaga kept victims' belongings as trophies and would look the men up on Facebook after assaulting them. He would also text friends to boast about his assaults. In one such message, he wrote of a comatose victim: "He was straight in 2014. 2015 is his breakthrough to the gay world hahaha." In a phone conversation, he made a reference to a song by the group Little Mix, telling a friend: "Take a sip of my secret potion, I'll make you fall in love."
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A churchgoer and PhD student Originally from Indonesia and born to a relatively wealthy family, Sinaga was a churchgoer who studied various university courses while living in Manchester, PA reported. He had been living in the UK on a student visa. He was studying for a PhD at the University of Leeds and would commute monthly from Manchester, where he had an apartment close to the city center. His thesis was entitled "Sexuality and everyday transnationalism. South Asian gay and bisexual men in Manchester," PA reported. "It is almost beyond belief that someone who could profess some Christian faith could at the same time have been committing such wicked and evil crimes," the judge said while delivering her verdict. "You are an evil serial sexual predator who has preyed upon young men who came into the city center wanting nothing more than a good night out with their friends," she added. After the verdict was announced, the UK's Home Secretary, Priti Patel, called for an urgent review of legislation on date-rape drugs like Gamma-hydroxybutyrate, more commonly known as GHB. GHB is a powerful depressant and is a Class C drug in the UK, the third of three categories of criminalized substances.
Those caught in possession of GHB can face an unlimited fine and up to two years in prison, compared with up to five years for Class B drugs and up to seven years for Class A drugs. Police have urged anyone who believes they may have been a victim of Sinaga, or who has information related to his crimes, to contact them on 0800 092 041 from within the UK or +44 207 158 0124 internationally. Reports can also be made online.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/06/uk/reynhard-sinaga-rapist-life-sentence-scli-gbr-intl/index.html
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: Tantrika]
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One victim, who woke up naked on Sinaga's floor feeling nauseous and panic-stricken, came to the conclusion he had been drugged, telling his fiancé about that suspicion but not about the condition in which he awoke.
Another man, who was told he could sleep on the floor, recalled waking twice during the night, on one occasion to be sick.
He remembered that on one of the occasions he was unable to move his arms and could feel himself being penetrated, before passing out again.
In the morning, he briefly spoke with Sinaga before leaving. He did not report what happened to police, until being approached by them.
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Sinaga was offending with abandon, sometimes night after night. In footage recovered from CCTV cameras covering his block of flats, he is seen leaving one evening only to return with a man 60 seconds later.
It was just after midnight on 2 June 2017, when he approached his final victim.
A teenager, who left The Factory nightclub to get some fresh air after becoming separated from friends, agreed to go to Sinaga's flat after it was suggested he could try to contact them from there.
The man recalled nothing further until waking several hours later being sexually attacked by Sinaga.
He immediately pushed Sinaga away, who responded by screaming "intruder" and "help", before repeatedly biting the teenager.
The man hit Sinaga several times, escaped from the flat, and then called police, who arrived to a chaotic scene.
Sinaga, who was discovered semi-conscious with serious injuries, was at first viewed sympathetically, and the teenager was arrested for assault.
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But Sinaga's behaviour in hospital began to arouse suspicion. He kept asking officers to have a mobile phone brought to him from his flat.
Police asked him to confirm the pin number before they would hand it over. However Sinaga gave a series of false numbers, then tried to grab the phone after providing the correct one.
The officer became so suspicious that he seized the phone as potential evidence and, when it was checked, a video recording was found of Sinaga raping the arrested teenager.
It was the start of what the officer overseeing the investigation, Assistant Chief Constable Mabs Hussain, calls "an absolutely unprecedented case".
He says the inquiry has been like "piecing a jigsaw together without the picture".
Another of Sinaga's mobiles had somehow ended up in the pocket of the final victim.
Between them, the two phones had been used to capture about 800 videos of Sinaga raping or sexually assaulting unconscious men.
The victims, usually snoring loudly, were often repeatedly raped over several hours.
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In some of the films, Sinaga is seen to forcibly hold men down who, though unconscious, were visibly distressed or made attempts to push him away. In others, victims are seen to vomit while being attacked.
To find the men, detectives used both the films and "trophies" collected by Sinaga - phones, watches, ID cards from their wallets, images that Sinaga had downloaded from their social media profiles, searches about them he conducted online.
When they lacked identifying information, investigators tried facial recognition technology, approached local universities, and asked other police forces around the UK if they knew any of the men.
Officers also considered whether Sinaga might have killed any of his victims with fatal drug overdoses, examining potential links to unsolved deaths or missing people, but there was no evidence to suggest this was the case.
When officers made a positive identification, that person would be approached and told he had been a victim of sexual offences.
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Police officers have spoken to other men, tracked down as a result of still images discovered in the flat that date from before 2015. These men recall being there, but not what happened. There is no other evidence available to show that they were sexually assaulted.
Only one previous report to police was linked to Sinaga after his arrest, dating from April 2017, when the victim had woken disorientated and unwell in a strange room with an Asian male.
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He quickly left, but later that day had flashbacks of being sexually assaulted and - two days afterwards - he called the police.
However, the man was unsure of the property in which he had been assaulted, meaning inquiries focused on two nearby hotels, neither of which had had any guests who matched the suspect's description.
Despite the overwhelming evidence, Sinaga pleaded not guilty to all 159 charges, forcing a series of four trials in which his victims had to give evidence and jurors had to watch hours of distressing videos.
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When entering and exiting court he often appeared cheerful, as if he was enjoying the process.
In the absence of the jury, the judge repeatedly asked defence counsel whether any of the evidence could be agreed, to spare jurors watching every video.
But Sinaga would not agree and, because he insisted each victim was conscious and consenting, the videos had to be played to demonstrate this was a lie.
really fucked up how this guy operated; people who thought he helped them finding out months later he had raped them seemingly enjoyed having the jury watch his home videos
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The impact on Sinaga's victims is vast.
Waters says that "some of the men have found it very difficult to function in everyday life".
This has resulted in substance misuse, people unable to go to work, students unable to finish university, and others having to leave home after feeling unable to function any longer within their families.
She adds that "some men have been suicidal and we've had to try to help them come to terms with that and how we can make them safe".
Dr Sam Warner, author of a report about the psychological impact on Sinaga's victims, says a loss of power coupled with an absence of memory can be "extremely frightening, disturbing, upsetting because that goes to the heart of how you make sense of yourself, how you understand your experiences".
"In a situation where people have been incapacitated through drugs they may have no flashback to that particular event," she says.
"What they will have is the flashback to being told, however sensitively done, because suddenly they become a rape victim at that point."
She says the stress and trauma "may continue throughout people's lives".
In a series of statements read in court, the men themselves described the impact.
"I felt numb. I was totally shocked, embarrassed, betrayed and very angry," one said.
"His actions were disgusting, unforgiveable. He has massively abused my trust in humanity."
Another man said: "I want Sinaga to spend the rest of his life in prison. Not only for what he has done to me but for what he has done to the other lads and the misery and stress he has caused them."
A further victim said: "I remember the day the police contacted me, it is a day I will never forget because it changed my life forever."
Another: "I wish the worse for him, I want him to feel the pain and sufferance I have felt. He has destroyed a part of my life."
Throughout all four trials, Sinaga displayed not a glimmer of empathy or contrition.
His persistent smile, so often used to comfort and disarm, was instead revealed to be a mark of his cruelty.
In a message to Sinaga, one victim said: "I'm not going to let you ruin my life."
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Only 30 years ?
You get more time for drug trafficking
Pedophiles and rapists get light sentences for some reason.
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spirit_shadow said: .....this is why I still support death penalty.
For some crimes, I often think, it sure would be nice if we still stoned people, or hung em in the streets.
You know, the real sick fucked up ones 
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He doesn't at all look like someone who'd need date rape drugs to get laid.
I guess it was a power trip for him.
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: Big Worm]
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Big Worm said: Only 30 years ?
You get more time for drug trafficking
Pedophiles and rapists get light sentences for some reason.
I know! And it's pretty fucking sickening!
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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Ill have to check this out when I get a chance I've always been fascinated with the biochemistry, environmental, belief systems, mental health, Tracey, abuse neglect etc can lead one person to be an overcome of all and a success and in more extreme situations the same thing can lead to a monster. I've wondered if mental health problems to this degree is triggered by speech abusive things, selling the soul etc. It just gets me into a Sherlock mode
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Well that does change my jaded and cynical outlook on this case. I would make a bad juror! I didn't read ANY details on the case(s). Thanks T!
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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Fuck no man thats GANGSTER. Guilty. Death penalty..... Next?
Edit: you know that would work as a deterrent for would be future rapists.
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I'm changing my stance on placing partial blame on the victims, although I bet a few of them were secretly gay, or questioning it, and that led to their getting mixed up with this guy. Predators such as these are very beguiling, wicked, sinister, insidious, and tricky/convincing.
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: sh4d0ws]
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spirit_shadow said: .....this is why I still support death penalty.
For some crimes, I often think, it sure would be nice if we still stoned people, or hung em in the streets.
You know, the real sick fucked up ones 
Yeah sue me I know it aint shroomy 
If anyone is concerned about the lack of shroominess towards a subhuman who has been convicted of 136 rapes, then they're the ones with issues. Not you.
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: Asante]
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He doesn't at all look like someone who'd need date rape drugs to get laid.
I guess it was a power trip for him.
Only pedophiles wear those style glasses.
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LOL, seems like it.
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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tyrannicalrex said: I'm changing my stance on placing partial blame on the victims, although I bet a few of them were secretly gay, or questioning it, and that led to their getting mixed up with this guy. Predators such as these are very beguiling, wicked, sinister, insidious, and tricky/convincing.
Think that your earlier observance of him potentially being skilled and deceptive with words rings particularly true especially with the CCTV footage of him walking out on the street and taking only about a minute to retrieve a victim
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"In a situation where people have been incapacitated through drugs they may have no flashback to that particular event," she says.
"What they will have is the flashback to being told, however sensitively done, because suddenly they become a rape victim at that point."
She says the stress and trauma "may continue throughout people's lives".
I bet in that situation you would kind of wish you hadn't found out. For the police not to tell you would be unethical, yet telling you arguably makes you worse off.
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: psi]
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This is scary
More time away from people birdwatching
Or something like that sounds good
I have my own spots
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: spirit_shadow]
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Fuck no man thats GANGSTER. Guilty. Death penalty..... Next?
Edit: you know that would work as a deterrent for would be future rapists.
While being executed may act as a "deterrent" in as much as the executed can commit no more crime, it may also spur them on to murdering their victims in that 'dead men tell no tales'.
On a slightly different note. Does anyone understand the reasoning behind the notion that every time video media is shared on line, the victim is revictimised. Iv'e heard 'experts' state this when talking about child porn and wondered what the reasoning was behind it.
I would have thought that by making these vidios public, you would reduce the profitability of making more of the same. Could it be that by destroying such caches of perversion, the police are unwittingly encouraging new videos to be made, to replace them, and therefore more children to become victims of this horible aspect of capitalism. Is it, monkey see monkey do? Did deathrace 2000 lead to the truck terror attacks in France?
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tyrannicalrex said: Well that does change my jaded and cynical outlook on this case. I would make a bad juror! I didn't read ANY details on the case(s). Thanks T!
Fuck no man thats GANGSTER. Guilty. Death penalty..... Next?
Edit: you know that would work as a deterrent for would be future rapists.
While being executed may act as a "deterrent" in as much as the executed can commit no more crime, it may also spur them on to murdering their victims in that 'dead men tell no tales'.
On a slightly different note. Does anyone understand the reasoning behind the notion that every time video media is shared on line, the victim is revictimised. Iv'e heard 'experts' state this when talking about child porn and wondered what the reasoning was behind it.
I would have thought that by making these vidios public, you would reduce the profitability of making more of the same. Could it be that by destroying such caches of perversion, the police are unwittingly encouraging new videos to be made, to replace them, and therefore more children to become victims of this horible aspect of capitalism. Is it, monkey see monkey do? Did deathrace 2000 lead to the truck terror attacks in France?
Don't quote me on this, but I believe their reasoning is that the crime is often one of humiliation and it ruins their lives. By sharing the story you further humiliate them and spread the information to more and more people, making it more and more likely that they will stumble across it themselves and be forced to relive the crime. Also its more likely they will be remembered for the article and even potentially judged.
When I was in school this 15 year old girl was sleeping with a teacher (I think she was 14 when it started) and after it came out she became completely ostracized by my school. She was labeled a slut and was harassed on a fairly regular basis. I remember seeing her walk down the halls with her head down and her books clutched to her chest like she was trying not to be noticed. I have no idea how her life ended up but people still talk about that incident like 18 years later.
It's a double edged sword for sure. If you don't report on it people aren't aware it's a danger. You also allow the perpetrator to have his reputation go unscathed. If you do report on it you complicate the situation 10x, potentially making it much harder for the victim to move on. Idk how I feel about it, but my instinct is to protect as many people as possible and that means letting as many people know as possible
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deucedbi9 said: ... On a slightly different note. Does anyone understand the reasoning behind the notion that every time video media is shared on line, the victim is revictimised. Iv'e heard 'experts' state this when talking about child porn and wondered what the reasoning was behind it. ...
Presuming this is strictly referring to videos made of non-consensual acts and not the non-consensual publishing of consenual videos made as revenge porn
think it has to do with the idea that the video is not consented to being made, along with the act it films so the video is inherently exploitationary, and there isn't really a morally defensible position for viewing it (aside from maybe the instances of the jurors in the court case) and every time the video is viewed, the victim is effectively being victimized by a new individual; who typically also psychologically empowers the abuser and/or may directly influence the abuser to make further content
sexual agency is an unfortunately gray area socially -- it seems to be commonsense recognized that individuals should have it, but rough around the edges of what that means and someone who was filmed being violated has no sexual agency during the act; but they also lose sexual agency to the people who view it -- particularly when it is viewed as an autoerotic prompting
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Does the porn industry keep making more money pumping out adults doing the same things over and over again? the new content would be made either way; attempting to eliminate trace of the sensitive material (particularly in child pornography) helps to liberate the victimized individual to live their life without being haunted by knowledge that a re-exposure of the material may put their life into upheaval again
personally am additionally critical of animated/drawn images of children or childified characters due to a perception that the sort of normalization it portrays may further embolden abusers likewise think that filmed pornography has a similiar impact; an idea that since the abuser has access to it they may interpret it as "secretly socially acceptable"
but do recognize that some people may associate my criticism of drawn images as straying into the realm of thought crimes due to the absence of an actual victim in the portrayal
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: Tantrika]
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You just found my new band name... Thought crime
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You should read 1984. Thought crime won't sound so cool when you realize how close we are to it happening
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Re: Britain catches 'most prolific rapist' in U.K. history -- targetted men, outside the prison system [Re: bloodsheen]
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In Holland there were a few miscreants who drugged people up and, once unconscious, injected them with AIDS infected blood, in the time AIDS still was lethal.
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Holy fucking shit Asante!!! WTF drives people to do these things?
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You gotta wonder, where did they get AIDs infected blood, how did they store it, and why do it? That sounds like some weird propaganda to me...although which side would invent it I'm not sure
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Asante said: In Holland there were a few miscreants who drugged people up and, once unconscious, injected them with AIDS infected blood, in the time AIDS still was lethal.
You gotta wonder, where did they get AIDs infected blood, how did they store it, and why do it? That sounds like some weird propaganda to me...although which side would invent it I'm not sure
Obviously, one of them was HIV+
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