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OfflineVibe_Enthusiast
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Possibly a reason for concern?
    #26421128 - 01/07/20 01:32 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

As many times as I've done shoeboxes, I've never had an issue with any type of contamination during colonization(had a pretty good run I guess) - anyway, all of my other boxes look great, checked this one out today and noticed this green spot on the surface.

Here's some pictures below.. any thoughts of advice would be appreciated. Thanks fellas :rockon:



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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26421136 - 01/07/20 01:37 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

Its contamination. Myself id throw it out. Some choose to keep it. Idk why


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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26421149 - 01/07/20 01:46 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

Def contamination. I get that at times. I want to say it's Trich, but I'm no expert with molds/bac. I'd either toss, or try to let it fruit outside if weather permits.


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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: Zachsonpub]
    #26421152 - 01/07/20 01:48 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

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Zachsonpub said:
Def contamination. I get that at times. I want to say it's Trich, but I'm no expert with molds/bac. I'd either toss, or try to let it fruit outside if weather permits.



This is good advice. Don't increase your spore load


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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: Diego]
    #26421189 - 01/07/20 02:08 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

For sure - I'll ditch it. Glad I several at a time:lol: Think it would have caused a concern opening the lid within my area? Just checked it out today.


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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26421197 - 01/07/20 02:12 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

If your other spawn was clean, they should all be good. Might want to wipe shit down around where you do SAB work...


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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: Zachsonpub]
    #26421223 - 01/07/20 02:24 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

Opening it will spread spore. Imo I'd bleach what you can. You'll be ok though


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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: Diego]
    #26421239 - 01/07/20 02:33 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

Meh, well I opened it by my closet and my other boxes are on the top shelf. I think it'll all be good.. other spawn is looking extremely healthy with pinning and knotting showing.

Just going to pitch this box and leave my other ones alone.


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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26421266 - 01/07/20 02:45 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

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Vibe_Enthusiast said:
Meh, well I opened it by my closet and my other boxes are on the top shelf. I think it'll all be good.. other spawn is looking extremely healthy with pinning and knotting showing.

Just going to pitch this box and leave my other ones alone.



Beat of luck!


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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: Diego]
    #26421402 - 01/07/20 03:59 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

I forgot who but somebody recently had an outbreak of shoeboxes going moldy before fruiting, and suspected it was something in the batch of coir he was using. I want to say it was black though not green.

Anyway yours doesn’t look like trich so maybe it’s salvageable if you leave it out of the growroom.


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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26421418 - 01/07/20 04:09 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

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I forgot who but somebody recently had an outbreak of shoeboxes going moldy before fruiting, and suspected it was something in the batch of coir he was using. I want to say it was black though not green.

Anyway yours doesn’t look like trich so maybe it’s salvageable if you leave it out of the growroom.



I saw this as well. Did they say why they thought it was that specific brand? Additives? I cant remember


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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: Diego]
    #26421421 - 01/07/20 04:11 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

I did an experiment and had this exact problem with every tub I cased with coir. Same green spored mould


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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: Diego]
    #26421722 - 01/07/20 06:54 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

I "cased" these ones with coir this time. I never have done it before. Was trying something differently. But this seems to be the only one that has a green spot or showing any sign of contamination.

I took it out of the room and put it under the bed in the spare bedroom - just may let it sit down there and see what happens.  Not really going to get any light - but meh, doesn't really bother me too much. If it fruits, it fruits. If not, I have several back ups.

This is just a fun grow anyway. Don't even need mushrooms - just enjoy the hobby:lol:


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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26421727 - 01/07/20 06:56 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

Right on man.

I love the coir top layer, it was a game changer for me with my no humidity grow room.


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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26421730 - 01/07/20 06:59 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

If it was mine, I'd cut out the area and move it somewhere away from everything to see what it does


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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26421732 - 01/07/20 07:00 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

Quote:

Vibe_Enthusiast said:
I "cased" these ones with coir this time. I never have done it before. Was trying something differently. But this seems to be the only one that has a green spot or showing any sign of contamination.

I took it out of the room and put it under the bed in the spare bedroom - just may let it sit down there and see what happens.  Not really going to get any light - but meh, doesn't really bother me too much. If it fruits, it fruits. If not, I have several back ups.

This is just a fun grow anyway. Don't even need mushrooms - just enjoy the hobby:lol:



I personally feel a coir casing leads to contamination. This is NOT popular opinion but idc. I believe it


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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: Diego]
    #26421736 - 01/07/20 07:02 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

That's speculation at best. Coir doesnt cause contamination:facepalm:


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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: mushboy]
    #26421743 - 01/07/20 07:06 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

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That's speculation at best. Coir doesnt cause contamination:facepalm:



Thats what I hear.


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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: Diego] * 1
    #26421747 - 01/07/20 07:08 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

Why position yourself to go against facts? If you have contamination it's because your spawn is dirty.

Saying coir casing causes contamination is like saying a herb seasoning made your turkey overcooked.


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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: mushboy]
    #26421750 - 01/07/20 07:09 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

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That's speculation at best. Coir doesnt cause contamination:facepalm:




Lol this is like the third thread this has happened in.

We’ve definitely got the data pool on this site to prove it.


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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: Diego]
    #26421773 - 01/07/20 07:21 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

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Quote:

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That's speculation at best. Coir doesnt cause contamination:facepalm:



Thats what I hear.




What Diego means, is that he said it, and in saying it, he heard it, therefore it must be true.  Check out the ridiculous line in his signature...babble quoted by him and written by him.

This dude's been spewing bad info here for days and doesn't really care about general consensus.  I swear the b.s. is intentional and not just due to a lack of knowledge


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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: mushboy]
    #26421821 - 01/07/20 07:36 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

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Why position yourself to go against facts? If you have contamination it's because your spawn is dirty.

Saying coir casing causes contamination is like saying a herb seasoning made your turkey overcooked.



insert mic drop here


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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: jcm4620]
    #26421827 - 01/07/20 07:38 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

hes whacked man ive never seen a pic of a grow by him at all. look at the post amount for the registration date not 1 pic hmmmm seems fishy to me team


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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: jcm4620]
    #26421832 - 01/07/20 07:40 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

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mushboy said:
Why position yourself to go against facts? If you have contamination it's because your spawn is dirty.

Saying coir casing causes contamination is like saying a herb seasoning made your turkey overcooked.



insert mic drop here



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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #26421851 - 01/07/20 07:45 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

lol nice 1 brother i dont have that one but that was a great analogy by mush well worded 👍


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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: jcm4620]
    #26421969 - 01/07/20 08:42 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

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look at the post amount for the registration date not 1 pic hmmmm seems fishy to me team




That’s actually really fucking impressive or just straight up crazy...or both!!

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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: Psychgro]
    #26422015 - 01/07/20 09:17 PM (4 years, 22 days ago)

I have a good amount of experience under my belt, just never had the chance to deal with a colonizing sub becoming contaminated. Have had jars, but never a sub. All a learning process and that's the best way to learn things.

Appreciate all the insight... and the entertainment:lol:


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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: Diego]
    #26422165 - 01/07/20 11:02 PM (4 years, 21 days ago)

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I personally feel a coir casing leads to contamination. This is NOT popular opinion but idc. I believe it




I personally feel that vaccines cause autism. This is NOT popular opinion but idc. I believe it


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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26423123 - 01/08/20 02:59 PM (4 years, 21 days ago)

Vibe, you know they were coming down on Diego, right?


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Re: Possibly a reason for concern? [Re: Zachsonpub]
    #26423195 - 01/08/20 03:46 PM (4 years, 21 days ago)

Trich and penecilium are fungi themselves and absolutely love for you to provide moisture for them through a casing.
Of course coir can be PCed if anyone’s really worried about it.

As far as spore loads, everyone should just chill.  Take a damp paper towel, place it over the potential spore area, press down and wiggle around a bit, leave it there.  Wash your hands.  There, no spore issues.  If you decide to still fruit the tub you can carefully clean up the spore loaded paper towel, otherwise, dump it with the rest.

I can’t tell if that is trich or not but in my experience everytime I’ve seen it on the surface it’s already all the way through to the bottom of the tub, often that spot will also stick to the tub bottom while mushroom mycelium lifts right out.


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