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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: tinymadidea]
    #28181674 - 02/11/23 02:28 AM (11 months, 10 days ago)

:heart: A more recent thread on it, also started by Forrester, is The Little Garden.


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: syncro]
    #28181709 - 02/11/23 03:30 AM (11 months, 10 days ago)

Thanks syncro, I'll check it out


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #28186437 - 02/13/23 11:31 PM (11 months, 7 days ago)

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White magic is all the positive principles you learn in the book..

Seeing people as christ for example..

Calling things nothing is neutral.. but some people call it black magic when you call a person nothing..




I like this a lot!


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: Lucis]
    #28187507 - 02/14/23 06:25 PM (11 months, 7 days ago)

I have seen the whole, large set of volumes in used book stores. Just skimmed it.

Can anyone, who has completed the entire course, perform any miracles on the spot, no matter who or what you are plugged-into.


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: durian_2008]
    #28187518 - 02/14/23 06:37 PM (11 months, 7 days ago)

I have done the full course..

I have created things with mind over matter.

I can site relevant passages with stichomancy.

Also I get allot of synchronicities per day/week.


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #28187520 - 02/14/23 06:38 PM (11 months, 7 days ago)

Oh I can create life as well..

Resurrect people from history and interact with them..

Also I can communicate with beings that are dead/in the bardos.


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #28187528 - 02/14/23 06:50 PM (11 months, 7 days ago)

How would you describe the process of physical manifestation, which seems to be the least subjective of all the miracles mentioned?

Or, can you show me a falsifiable example of hidden knowledge?

This is not intended to be a battle of worldviews, but a demonstration of the methodology.


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: durian_2008]
    #28187835 - 02/14/23 09:44 PM (11 months, 6 days ago)

Yeah so like.. I looked in my closet one day and there was this new Grey Hoodie..  which I knew was spontaneously generated.. and this has happened with a few other pieces of clothing too.

Also the course says the meaning is to remove blocks to loves awareness which I think is great for sure. But I think the main aim of the course is to remove blocks to free expression..including performing miracles.


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: durian_2008] * 1
    #28188069 - 02/15/23 04:08 AM (11 months, 6 days ago)

I was browsing a version of the Shiva sutras and this to me coincided with the miracle in ACIM:

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Wielding the power hidden in the Shakti chakras, one should render the objective world as nonexistent or immaterial.



Except that it is done with the power of witness, in essence not different. The terms used in the course can be obscure, so miracle may be preliminary to corrected perception, etc. I'm not remembering specifically.

Miracle is sharing immutability which is the same as joy, the expansive element, that which extends in reality.


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #28188328 - 02/15/23 09:07 AM (11 months, 6 days ago)

:peace: I don't necessarily have anything against the claims being made, here.

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to remove blocks to free expression




When discussing manifestation some people say they are sending out a prayer, over the entire universe, and that is answered by whatever synchronicity comes their way.

Is this what you mean, by removing blocks to expression?


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: durian_2008]
    #28189381 - 02/15/23 08:52 PM (11 months, 6 days ago)

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:peace: I don't necessarily have anything against the claims being made, here.

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to remove blocks to free expression




When discussing manifestation some people say they are sending out a prayer, over the entire universe, and that is answered by whatever synchronicity comes their way.

Is this what you mean, by removing blocks to expression?



I think understanding prayers and mantras and there effects on the fabric of existence is important..

But also via self expression understanding what your freewill is without lying to one self.. which is hard to do.

Basically I say it is removing blocks to your awareness.. of self existence and other..


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #28189509 - 02/15/23 10:36 PM (11 months, 5 days ago)

Some of the charismatics talk about living in a state of holiness, as sinless as possible, or not to take part in negative karma in any way.

Are you saying that lower emotions, or what, are blocks to awareness?


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: durian_2008] * 1
    #28189618 - 02/16/23 12:16 AM (11 months, 5 days ago)

Hi Durian,

A miracle, as defined by A Course in Miracles, is a change in perception rather than the biblical definition of a miracle which is more like an impressive spectacle. Better yet, it is a correction of our ego perception and a choice for the already present vision of our right minds.


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: tinymadidea]
    #28189624 - 02/16/23 12:24 AM (11 months, 5 days ago)

So, you're content with saying everything is an act of God. I don't find that controversial. :shrug:

How do you go from that, to making a lame person walk?


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: durian_2008]
    #28189756 - 02/16/23 04:59 AM (11 months, 5 days ago)

Um.. I know there are evil forces at work.. that work constantly to screw with your awareness..

Thats one thing..

Also ignorance in general can go against the ability to make well informed choices..

I think any emotion even "lesser" emotions should be embraced..

Just honoring what you are and how you feel is the first step.


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: BrendanFlock] * 1
    #28189757 - 02/16/23 05:02 AM (11 months, 5 days ago)

Course also says miracles change the laws of physics..

So there are both physical and mental types of miracles..

I once had a dream where God came out of a UFO with a beige orb.. which I think is The Philosophers Stone.. then a voice said "All of life is a miracle".. then the orb absorbed everything and I woke up.


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: Forrester]
    #28190028 - 02/16/23 10:20 AM (11 months, 5 days ago)

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How do you go from that, to making a lame person walk?




Someone yelled out in pain, through the adjoining wall.

A couple of dogs are getting old and crippled.

If you take a direct and literal approach, what is it?


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: durian_2008]
    #28190206 - 02/16/23 01:02 PM (11 months, 5 days ago)

Hi Durian,

According to the course, nothing that happens here has anything to do with God. Everything here is a negation of God.

"The world you see has nothing to do with reality. It is of your own making, and it does not exist." (W-p1.14.1.4-5)

"The world you see is the delusional system of those made mad by guilt." (T13.in.2.2)

That's why the course is focused on changing perception rather than anything else. The goal of the course is to awaken from this illusory existence.


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: tinymadidea]
    #28190290 - 02/16/23 01:51 PM (11 months, 5 days ago)

I am trying to relate what you are saying to my personal studies, not to put words in your mouth.

It sounds very similar to gnosticism.

How might someone use this worldview to effect a change in matter?

If it works -- even as a matter of coincidence -- I will report back honestly.


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: durian_2008]
    #28190843 - 02/16/23 10:35 PM (11 months, 4 days ago)

Absolutely, it is very similar to gnosticism, you are right. The God that the course refers to has nothing to do with what we think of as reality, which is a false existence.

Nothing in its teachings have any instructions on how to alter matter. That would be in direct opposition to the goal of the course, which is to have us awaken from the dream.

"You are at home in God, dreaming of exile"
(T10.I.2.1)

There are not even any directions for how to behave in the course, because the goal is to help us change our minds:

"seek not to change the world, but choose to change your mind about the world." (T21.in.1.7)

To answer your question: "How might someone use this worldview to effect a change in matter?" The answer might not be what you are looking for, but this course can't help you with that as it is all about uncovering your ego thoughts which help maintain your false existence as a body. The course might suggest you look at the need to change the world and where that would be coming from. We all have to do things in the world, granted, but the course's focus is on the motivations behind our actions rather than the actions themselves.


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