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A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system * 2
    #26420791 - 01/07/20 10:58 AM (4 years, 22 days ago)

Reading a lot of the things people post and the ideas they believe in around here, it's amazing to me how much of it goes right along with a course in miracles.  But I rarely run across anyone even mentioning it.  A quick search turned up a thread but it was 6 years old.

I feel this very interesting text got a bad rap, Christians hate it because it's "blasphemy" in that it corrects the bible (which was written/compiled/and edited by men with motives).  While at the same time non-Christians write it off as Christian and dismiss it for that reason, understandably.  Also one of it's major proponents being Marianne Williamson I think may have hurt more than helped it, but I digress...

Has anyone studied this book at all, or the ideas it talks about?  It would be cool if we could have a discussion.  To be clear I am not here to promote it or convert anyone, and I have not finished the complete text myself.  Just found it to be the most legit spiritual path for me after many years of searching.  Interested to see what others think.


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: Forrester]
    #26423390 - 01/08/20 06:04 PM (4 years, 20 days ago)

https://awakening-mind.org/resources/a-course-in-miracles/

Online text for anyone who is interested.


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26423402 - 01/08/20 06:14 PM (4 years, 20 days ago)

Interesting...

"T-1.II.5. Revelations are indirectly inspired by me because I am close to the Holy Spirit, and alert to the revelation-readiness of my brothers. 2 I can thus bring down to them more than they can draw down to themselves. 3 The Holy Spirit mediates higher to lower communication, keeping the direct channel from God to you open for revelation. 4 Revelation is not reciprocal. 5 It proceeds from God to you, but not from you to God.

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T-2.VIII.3. The Last Judgment is generally thought of as a procedure undertaken by God. 2 Actually it will be undertaken by my brothers with my help. 3 It is a final healing rather than a meting out of punishment, however much you may think that punishment is deserved."


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: Buster_Brown] * 1
    #26423577 - 01/08/20 08:25 PM (4 years, 20 days ago)

It's all just a book on white magic..

And everything it denies is black magic..


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: Forrester]
    #26423735 - 01/08/20 10:31 PM (4 years, 20 days ago)

I read it and did every exercise.  It made me feel good.  I thought I was reading something from a higher plane of consciousness.  I enjoyed reading the daily exercises in the morning, meditating on them, and doing my best to remember them throughout the day.


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: Billy Ray]
    #26423903 - 01/09/20 02:53 AM (4 years, 20 days ago)

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I read it and did every exercise.  It made me feel good.  I thought I was reading something from a higher plane of consciousness.  I enjoyed reading the daily exercises in the morning, meditating on them, and doing my best to remember them throughout the day.




I was attracted to 'The Magic' thru a different medium Pathwork

It seems to me that they both have a similar pyramidal type structure.


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26424026 - 01/09/20 06:41 AM (4 years, 20 days ago)

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Interesting...

"T-1.II.5. Revelations are indirectly inspired by me because I am close to the Holy Spirit, and alert to the revelation-readiness of my brothers. 2 I can thus bring down to them more than they can draw down to themselves. 3 The Holy Spirit mediates higher to lower communication, keeping the direct channel from God to you open for revelation. 4 Revelation is not reciprocal. 5 It proceeds from God to you, but not from you to God.

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T-2.VIII.3. The Last Judgment is generally thought of as a procedure undertaken by God. 2 Actually it will be undertaken by my brothers with my help. 3 It is a final healing rather than a meting out of punishment, however much you may think that punishment is deserved."




Yeah the language in it can be a little weird to interpret, until you know a few key words that they use in kind of weird ways, it's difficult to make sense of a lot of it.  I found the whole idea of a Course in Miracles through another book, Disappearance of the Universe.  Having read this book first, which is a lot easier to read and simplifies the language used in the actual course, the text of the course becomes a hell of a lot easier to understand.  Although it's really a whole lot of text that could be simplified to about a 10th as many pages... the ideas are quite simple.  I would recommend anyone that wants to get an idea of what the course is about to check out this book first.  It's a pretty entertaining read anyway even if you're not interested in checking out the course.

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It's all just a book on white magic..

And everything it denies is black magic..




Can you explain a little more?


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I was attracted to 'The Magic' thru a different medium Pathwork

It seems to me that they both have a similar pyramidal type structure.




Cool like I will have to check that out.


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: Forrester] * 1
    #26425223 - 01/09/20 06:36 PM (4 years, 19 days ago)

So I as well read Disappearance of the universe before I read the Course..

I read the whole thing and did every single excercise..

It helped me allot in a troubling time..

White magic is all the positive principles you learn in the book..

Seeing people as christ for example..

Calling things nothing is neutral.. but some people call it black magic when you call a person nothing..


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: BrendanFlock] * 1
    #26425516 - 01/09/20 09:53 PM (4 years, 19 days ago)

Ah, gotcha.  Yes I do like the positivity aspects of the whole thing.  With all the different spiritual paths there are, it's difficult to know for sure if you're on a good one or not.  I always figure if it ends up having nothing but positive effects on your life and mood, as well as how you treat others, then it's a good thing regardless of whether everything the text claims is true or not :peace:


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: Forrester]
    #26426173 - 01/10/20 08:35 AM (4 years, 19 days ago)

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...it's difficult to know for sure if you're on a good one or not.




"It's all good" haha, I recently made a connection between "Pay me my money down, Pay me your golden chair..." with circumstances in my life. If I had chosen to follow that route I would be on solid ground as represented by the respective indicators for this period (see Tarot's 4 of Pentacles, Qabala's Chesed in Assiah, I-Ching's Gua#15, Astrology's Jupiter in Earth and Angel#59 of the Shem HaMephorash) But in rejecting 'trade' as the foundation for progress I think I remain on solid principles.


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: Billy Ray]
    #27390818 - 07/16/21 10:07 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Well articulated.
A Course in Miracles is a powerful spiritual path that has and continues to help millions to understand our relationship with each other and with God.
Joshua Stones 'Soul Psychology' has an excellent introduction to ACIM which is really helpful.


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: benjoseph78]
    #27391191 - 07/17/21 10:59 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

I'll have to check out that book, I hadn't heard of it.  There are so many course intros out there!  Some better than others... Marianne Williamson is one of the most famous but I read her books a decade ago and they didn't get me the least bit interested in the course.  Wasn't till I read Disappearance that I finally got into it and read the actual text of the course.


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: Forrester]
    #27392073 - 07/18/21 01:55 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

I don't belive that everything written in that book is de facto truth..

But the general idea behind it..

Miracles are real..

You need to be spiritual for miracles to occur..


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #27395056 - 07/20/21 12:15 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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It's all just a book on white magic..

And everything it denies is black magic..




I randomly thought about you saying this like a week ago.Then I saw you say its like black magic as well.  I think acim is great in its merging of  paths (psychology, gnostic christianity, magic systems , advaita etc.)
It is insane to me that someone would read that whole book tho as it is long and dry af yet
Yet I agree the central idea or practice of forgiveness as a journey of opening or dissolving into the awareness that life is a dream which began by entertaining the impossible idea of a life apart from god is pretty cool.


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: mt cleverest]
    #27395070 - 07/20/21 12:42 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Dissappearance of the universe is more entertaining but I couldn't get thru that either tbh. The audiobook rubbed me the wrong way, could've been his voice. I mean the alien archangels were awesome don't get me wrong but they didn't do anything cool , just talk the whole time.


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: mt cleverest]
    #27395078 - 07/20/21 12:49 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

I can see why the guy has more life cycles to go, absolutely no imagination!


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: mt cleverest]
    #27395117 - 07/20/21 01:22 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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It is insane to me that someone would read that whole book tho as it is long and dry af




Yeah I can certainly understand passing it over, I did the first few times I picked it up.  But when your path calls you to it, there's nothing more interesting to read.  Just depends on where you're at.  I'm sure it's not for a lot of people, ever. 
The Christian terminology I'm sure turns a lot of people off.  Yet paradoxically, many of the ones more open to Christian terminology (Christians) seem to be quite turned off by the ideas in the book as they oppose a lot of what many interpret the bible to say. (read some of the bad reviews - Blasphemy!!! :lol:)
It has a very small audience, for sure.  But some treasures are best kept hidden.


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: Forrester]
    #27413628 - 08/03/21 10:34 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I think I know what you are talking about and hopefully you are still good with the blessings and fortitude to face the coming darkness with plenty of light.

I will stand by your side and give you strength and with fire swords the Lord will grant the wind.


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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: Fiery]
    #27413675 - 08/03/21 11:55 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

So the idea of competition nullifies the honest ideal of peace with your brother..

Only one man will win..

The one takes power and the second bows..

Until the next tournament of course..

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Re: A course in miracles/non-dualistic belief system [Re: Forrester]
    #28181655 - 02/11/23 01:53 AM (11 months, 10 days ago)

I know this is old but it is so nice to find a thread on "the course".

The only ACIM teacher I follow is Dr. Ken Wapnick, who truly understood and lived it. It is by the far the most profound book I have ever found. It is not easy but I struggle with its teachings daily. I love that there is a thread about it here, and from Forrester

I am baffled by how unknown/overlooked it is.

As someone else said, it is dry. In my early days with it, I often felt it was completely barren. It contains nothing about how to live or what to do as it is entirely focused on the mind, which is very unsatisfying to our egos. I don't know how I made it through the first time I read it. The older I get, the more beautiful it gets.


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