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OfflineMidwestMonster
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Fresh AND dried?
    #26418704 - 01/06/20 03:06 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Hey all, sorry in advance for the long windedness of this question.

So, I recently completed my first shoeboxes and began testing for potency (PES Amazonian var., Psilocybe Cubensis)

My first test was out off sheer giddiness and the patience I had watching them grow over the past two months finally breaking down. 50g fresh was puréed in food processor with fresh ginger and lemon juice and basically just dumped into a large mug filled with Earl Grey tea and honey. As soon as cool, I chugged it down and it tasted pretty great.

(Important note: this was my first experience in over 5 years)

Anyways, I had been planning to do 62g and thank God I did not because after 5-10 min of completing the mug full, I had jumped in the shower and that shit hit me like a fucking train. I began to see my tub melting and growing mandala-like borders and felt an immediate sense of doom and started freaking out as it had never been that heavy, that quick.

I jumped out of the shower, began chugging water from the faucet, and proceeded to force puke to try and dilute/purge any additional alkaloids awaiting their chance to skull fuck me. The visuals dropped noticeably but I did remain uncomfortably high for the next...4-5ish hours maybe? Mainly body load as thankfully I have roommates that helped keep my mind in reality for the remainder of my trip.

The very next night I bravely sampled 4g of dried by just munching them down and then following up with a nice cup of regular tea with lemon essential oil. My thinking was that because they were dry possibly they would be “less potent” (less secondary alks?) and also with a slightly reduced dose and an increased tolerance having tripped the night before. Proud to say I had a great time but it felt mainly of a body high and not as much mental much less visual.

Finally, the question. Has anyone tried eating dried AND fresh at the same time? My logic here is that if 4g was a great time but was just under what I consider “moderate threshold”, would adding say 20g fresh on top get me about where I want to go/have a symbiosis between the body and mental/visual aspects? Or is there perhaps some pro-tips I may be missing?

I believe Jillsa from the FB group had mentioned something about fresh being subjectively “more potent” and that she takes a dialed back fresh dose most times. I’d love to get back to about a moderate/high experience but have a relatively smooth come up to a nice heavy peak and be able to ride that out versus the almost DMT-like immediate blast off (of which I also sampled a light dose of recently after, but I digress)

I’m all ears to any subjective advice or whatever you have for me. My last trip was on Jan 3rd and I’m taking a 1-week tolerance break in anticipation of this next attempt.

I appreciate all of you and mush love :smile:


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OfflineDJ Ed
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Re: Fresh AND dried? [Re: MidwestMonster]
    #26418715 - 01/06/20 03:20 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Nice write up MWM,

Fresh mushrooms will give you a more intense, more visual trip. But fresh can’t be stored for any length of time. So I always look forward to a harvest where I can eat fresh. I have never tried mixing fresh with dried though; I mean, why would you want to? Unless you didn’t have enough fresh for a full trip.

As it’s 5 years since your last trip, your tolerance was effectively zero. So whatever dose you took of fresh, the come up was always going to be fast and intense.

Wait a couple of weeks, then try a lower dose, just to get your psychedelic toes wet again. Then go larger.....

Good luck,
DJ Ed


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Re: Fresh AND dried? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26418848 - 01/06/20 07:15 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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DJ Ed said:
Nice write up MWM,

Fresh mushrooms will give you a more intense, more visual trip. But fresh can’t be stored for any length of time. So I always look forward to a harvest where I can eat fresh. I have never tried mixing fresh with dried though; I mean, why would you want to? Unless you didn’t have enough fresh for a full trip.

As it’s 5 years since your last trip, your tolerance was effectively zero. So whatever dose you took of fresh, the come up was always going to be fast and intense.

Wait a couple of weeks, then try a lower dose, just to get your psychedelic toes wet again. Then go larger.....

Good luck,
DJ Ed




:whathesaid:

When you took that 4g the next night, you may have had some tolerance diminish the effect (although this is debatable as some people say they trip consecutive days without noticeable tolerance).

I agree with DJ Ed, take at least 2 weeks off before dosing again. You can  mix dry and fresh, no problem, but many people do say fresh is more potent than dry so, perhaps, try 8 grams fresh for every 1g dry you would take (so if you're thinking of something equivalent to a 4g dry dose, try 32g wet.).

I have yet to take fresh large doses but I will say from taking 15g fresh, it definitely felt stronger than its equivalent 1.5g dry.


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