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Re: EAT LIQUID INOCULATES™ [Re: Bph]
    #26417254 - 01/05/20 09:56 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: EAT LIQUID INOCULATES™ [Re: Bph]
    #26417416 - 01/05/20 11:27 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Ok so at least the orange ones are a viable option if these metal pour spouts dont work.

Bph does it say pp5 somewhere on it?


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Re: EAT LIQUID INOCULATES™ [Re: eatyualive]
    #26417440 - 01/05/20 11:46 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It's made if "tritan" by eastman plastics. Just says it's durable and won't warp in the dishwasher so I'm thinking its good... The wife will likely kill me if I melt it tho.


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Re: EAT LIQUID INOCULATES™ [Re: Bph]
    #26417455 - 01/05/20 12:01 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

they don;t look like the'yll survive the pc.  test:  boil  it in a pot on the stove and see how it holds up.  if it comes out unscathed it may be up to a test in the pc but if it warps or cracks at all scratch it.


also with other brands of plastic lids that claimed PP5 I did find some colors to warp more/less than other colors.  yellow and orange were the best and Ive reused them many times.  purple and blue shrunk considerably.  green and gray warped just enough that I didnt like how the threads sat after the pc cycle . (this is regular colored offbrand mason lids NOT the masontop brand pour lids) .


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Re: EAT LIQUID INOCULATES™ [Re: TedsDead]
    #26417497 - 01/05/20 12:35 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the info!


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Re: EAT LIQUID INOCULATES™ [Re: eatyualive]
    #26417562 - 01/05/20 01:29 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Found the Info. I forgot the word for it but it is rated to go up to 108c so not quite enough balls for the Pc cycle. May have to go to the Goodwill and snag a cheap blender. I've always liked the idea of getting a bunch of jars going with one clean plate.


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Re: EAT LIQUID INOCULATES™ [Re: Bph]
    #26417573 - 01/05/20 01:40 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

you can still get a bunch of jars going with 1 clean plate.  the colonization time will just take longer if your dropping wedges


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Re: EAT LIQUID INOCULATES™ [Re: TedsDead] * 1
    #26417605 - 01/05/20 02:01 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Bph you want an oster brand blender. It comes with a blade attachment and they fit perfect on a regular mouth pint, half pint or quart. You also don’t want to use the black plastic base as it will melt in the pc.

Also I can easily knock up 30 jars with one plate and 1/4 pint  water. You can use a regular mouth pint half full(1/2 pint of water) to one plate and inoculate close to 50 quarts with one plate. Granted you will have less inoculant but it will take longer to colonize. You could do a shake after a few days if you want. There is an art form to it. The more evenly you do your initial shake after inoculation the quicker your jars will grow. Spend a good minute shaking and turning each quart after inoculation. If time isn’t an issue simply inoculate more jars with less inoculant.

I don’t usually shake at all after the initial shake. But if I inoculate more jars with less inoculate, I may shake after 3 days to speed things up a little. My end goal is not to have to shake 50 quarts that’s a lot more work and adds up quick. If I can do anything to lessen shake time I’m down.


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Re: EAT LIQUID INOCULATES™ [Re: eatyualive]
    #26417662 - 01/05/20 02:30 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

All this blender talk put me in the mood for a margarita. And as for getting lots of jars from one plate using multiple small wedges. I find the more time a plate is open and the more times I'm in and out of it with my blade the more bacteria I get. I know that's my fault but I still am looking for ways to give myself an edge it would be cool get 30 clean shoe boxes off one plate.


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Re: EAT LIQUID INOCULATES™ [Re: Bph]
    #26417693 - 01/05/20 02:52 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I’d smash myself in the face if I had to cut 20 wedges for a2g. Liquids I pour like a beer and it takes me about 10 minutes for 30 quarts.


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Re: EAT LIQUID INOCULATES™ [Re: eatyualive]
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Re: EAT LIQUID INOCULATES™ [Re: FunnyFungiName]
    #26419062 - 01/06/20 10:32 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

thats what is being used on every build.  its the pour lids that need to be true


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Re: EAT LIQUID INOCULATES™ [Re: TedsDead]
    #26419184 - 01/06/20 11:50 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I prefer the pasty plate because I can loosen it prior to opening and exposing the culture to the SAB. Then do a quick drop with minimal exposure during drop. However, what I may do is do my Initial transfers on the holy grail plates and do my 2Nd and 3rd transfer on pasty’s for ease of technique using a tiger drop.





That's an excellent idea, It would be awesome if the plastic of the HG plates were soft at the bottom!!! Damn, I was thinking updating the HG thread with that idea, just so the people know that they can do that as well!


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Re: EAT LIQUID INOCULATES™ [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #26419353 - 01/06/20 01:52 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

also if you cut the wedges out first you can usually get them to pop out with a quick flick to the back of the dish( with HG plates) .  not as easy as squeezing out the pasty plate but if one find themself in such predicament  it may be a helpful technique


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Re: EAT LIQUID INOCULATES™ [Re: TedsDead]
    #26419793 - 01/06/20 06:27 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah alien I wish I could pry the agar loose 8 tried already but couldn’t. Either way I love those holy grails. But I’ll keep pasty’s specifically for the drop.

Yeah funnyfungi im using that in the op. You can’t beat the price of Goodman’s and oster brand. So I’ve also gotten blender assemblies at Walmart. They hide them on the top shelf as a replacement blade that comes with a gasket. It’s 10$ though. I have 3-4 blades but really only use two back and forth.

I mean I think I can take my exacto blade, loosen the entire holy grail plate and drop it. But the exposure is a little more than it would be with a pasty plate. I can also use the bottom of the pasty plate as a shield as I lift the blade to drop the plate.


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Re: EAT LIQUID INOCULATES™ [Re: eatyualive]
    #26419801 - 01/06/20 06:33 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Bph you want an oster brand blender. It comes with a blade attachment and they fit perfect on a regular mouth pint, half pint or quart. You also don’t want to use the black plastic base as it will melt in the pc.

Also I can easily knock up 30 jars with one plate and 1/4 pint  water. You can use a regular mouth pint half full(1/2 pint of water) to one plate and inoculate close to 50 quarts with one plate. Granted you will have less inoculant but it will take longer to colonize. You could do a shake after a few days if you want. There is an art form to it. The more evenly you do your initial shake after inoculation the quicker your jars will grow. Spend a good minute shaking and turning each quart after inoculation. If time isn’t an issue simply inoculate more jars with less inoculant.

I don’t usually shake at all after the initial shake. But if I inoculate more jars with less inoculate, I may shake after 3 days to speed things up a little. My end goal is not to have to shake 50 quarts that’s a lot more work and adds up quick. If I can do anything to lessen shake time I’m down.



I just did this last week. Took a tiny cake and turned it into 3 gal of good spawn in 4 days. I shook the two on the left bc they had uncolonized grains and I wanted to spawn them over the weekend. Spawned 4 monos one week from using this tek. Never shook the jar in the right.


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Re: EAT LIQUID INOCULATES™ [Re: spiritlands]
    #26421717 - 01/07/20 06:52 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Ok here we go.

The lids are being wrapped in heavy duty aluminum foil. Make sure to be wary of the bottom air spout. This can poke a hole through the foil. I am pressure cooking the lid for 30 minutes at 15psi. And now it begins. Now it’s time for the elves.









We tested the pour lid two ways with 1/4 pint of water in a regular mouth half pint.

First one is the normal setting where the spout comes down about 1/4 inch below the bottom of the lid. This is how the lid is intended for use with oil. I’m assuming you want a delay with oil so a large amount doesnt come gushing all over the place. I also can’t get the remainder of the liquid out at the bottom of the batch and I feel it’s wasteful.



The 2nd way we put the spout flush with the bottom of the lid. This seems to pour a little better and more controlled. I’m not sure I like the cap it’s a little funky. But it does provide a nice cover between pours if you need to take a break and it’s automatic. You could use your gloved finger to push it closed as well. I want a quick  motion where I flick once and it lets out as much inoculant as I need per jar. So what I’ve done in the image below is sit the spout flush with the bottom of the lid.



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Re: EAT LIQUID INOCULATES™ [Re: eatyualive]
    #26424558 - 01/09/20 12:26 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: EAT LIQUID INOCULATES™ [Re: NothingsChanged] * 1
    #26425408 - 01/09/20 08:46 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Ok test one with the bottom of the pour spout flush with lid is complete. 

I do a slight swirl right before the first pour. If you keep the speed consistent after, the movement of the pour jar moves the mycelia slurry around for you. If you need to pause between jars for whatever reason. Simply do a light swirl again. I’ll work on getting a video of it. Things were foggy and hard to see with what I made.



So the pour was nice and controlled. It poured less water than I’m used to but I absolutely love the automatic closing lid between each pour. It’s also really convenient if you lift the lid of receiving jar at a 45degree angle turn the pour lid and pour. When you lift the pour jar up it automatically closes and as that happens you are closing the lid to receiving grain jar. I slightly tighten each lid after the pour with my left hand while I’m doing all pour work with my right.

What I didn’t like is that 90% of the jar pours but the last 10% won’t pour. Even if you flip the entire jar 180 to the surface of the work area. You would have to free pour and that is not the idea. I’ll likely just increase my volume of water 1/4 inch lore in the jar next time to account for the wasted liquid.


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Re: EAT LIQUID INOCULATES™ [Re: eatyualive]
    #26438608 - 01/17/20 01:31 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Hi Eats,

I've been making LI in a similar way with golden teacher, noccing up gallon bags of wheat. But man, your leapoff is soooo much faster than mine. I see leapoff on day 2, but only barely.

I blend a 50cc worth of water and a full size agar plate, into a syringe and squirt that into two, 1 gallon bags of wheat. I blend a little less than you do I think. Some of the bigger pieces are the size of rice. I use a huge basting needle (maybe a 1/8 in diameter).

Any advice? Your jars just EXPLODE!!!

I only slosh the grains around for 20 seconds or so after nocc'ing, fearing damaging the mycelia even more by the mixing.... maybe thats my problem.


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