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OfflineWeavieWonder
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Re: casing layer question [Re: Diego] * 1
    #26417789 - 01/05/20 03:42 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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Casings work great...if the right materials are used and are prepared properly. I use peat based casings with a high ph, and pasteurize. Zero issues...providing that the grain spawn used to inoculate the substrate is not contaminated.

Although casings are not always nessecary, they are a nice tool to have in the tool box. Like any tool, you need to know how to use it properly, or it will act as a deficit to your project instead of an asset.



Do you have alot of flushes with that high ph casing? Stamets says in The Mushroom Cultivator "an overly acidic or alkaline casing mixture depresses mycelial growth and supports competitors".




Quite the opposite. Mushroom mycelium can tolerate higher ph a lot better than competitor molds. Btw, fuck the cultivator. That book was relevant 36 years ago.


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Re: casing layer question [Re: WeavieWonder]
    #26417791 - 01/05/20 03:43 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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Casings work great...if the right materials are used and are prepared properly. I use peat based casings with a high ph, and pasteurize. Zero issues...providing that the grain spawn used to inoculate the substrate is not contaminated.

Although casings are not always nessecary, they are a nice tool to have in the tool box. Like any tool, you need to know how to use it properly, or it will act as a deficit to your project instead of an asset.



Do you have alot of flushes with that high ph casing? Stamets says in The Mushroom Cultivator "an overly acidic or alkaline casing mixture depresses mycelial growth and supports competitors".




Quite the opposite. Mushroom mycelium can tolerate higher ph a lot better than competitor molds. Btw, fuck the cultivator. That book was relevant 36 years ago.



Hasnt done wrong by me whatsoever.


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Re: casing layer question [Re: Diego]
    #26417913 - 01/05/20 04:48 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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Spawn quality is not an issue with me. Do you think that if peat contaminates quicker because of sterilazion that the coir could do the same through pasteurization?



That doesn't look healthy



What about it? I didnt have any issues with it



Ok


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Re: casing layer question [Re: cronicr]
    #26418019 - 01/05/20 05:37 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

if your getting contams before first flush ur spawn is shit no if ands or buts about it no matter what the sub is made from


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Re: casing layer question [Re: cronicr]
    #26418025 - 01/05/20 05:40 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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Spawn quality is not an issue with me. Do you think that if peat contaminates quicker because of sterilazion that the coir could do the same through pasteurization?



That doesn't look healthy



What about it? I didnt have any issues with it



Ok



that shit looks bacterial and stressed as hell if u ask me


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Re: casing layer question [Re: jcm4620]
    #26418026 - 01/05/20 05:41 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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if your getting contams before first flush ur spawn is shit no if ands or buts about it no matter what the sub is made from



I clearly said after the first cropping. Once I inoculate i don't open again until cropping.


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Re: casing layer question [Re: jcm4620]
    #26418032 - 01/05/20 05:44 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

My experinence with bacteria, is the grain gets clear slime and wont colonize. The results are there in my sig


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Re: casing layer question [Re: Diego]
    #26418038 - 01/05/20 05:48 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

where u say that at i dont c that on here at all maybe u should put some peroxide on it. lol this dude just wants to argue with ppl. were beatin a dead horse here fellas and words of advice stammets is a hack around these parts


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Re: casing layer question [Re: jcm4620]
    #26418043 - 01/05/20 05:49 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

all i c in ur sig is a bunch of overly saturated fruits that look like u just took a garden hose to em


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Re: casing layer question [Re: jcm4620]
    #26418051 - 01/05/20 05:53 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

I sure hope your day gets better dude


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Re: casing layer question [Re: Diego]
    #26418054 - 01/05/20 05:55 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

If you only open your monos to crop then yes moisture gathers and falls off the lid.


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Re: casing layer question [Re: jcm4620]
    #26418055 - 01/05/20 05:56 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

cron il let u do the honors my friend im done. as i stated in another thread and now this one he is only here to act like a know it all and argue with ppl. his post history proves as much


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Re: casing layer question [Re: jcm4620]
    #26418062 - 01/05/20 05:59 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Peace.


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Re: casing layer question [Re: Diego]
    #26418065 - 01/05/20 06:01 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Why do you find that to be bacterial and shitty? Please change my mind. Hopefully I'll learn something.


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