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OfflineSkibike
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WTF...that was disappointing first time!!
    #26415569 - 01/04/20 06:51 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

First time experience and totalled 3.7g dry of GT's and was like a level 1 experience. Is my brain broken or my batch broken?

Boiled 2g for 15min to make a tea first...hour later another 1g as tea. 2 hours later ate another 0.7g. Had not eaten for 4 hours prior. Not on any medications. Weighed it out on 2 different scales as well.

Effect was slight colored visuals around lights. If I closed eyes, Id get faint images appearing with sprinklings of colors but it was like it was faint and in the distance. To sum it up, its like I had to go out seeking some effect from the shroom versus it seeking me. It teased me and I wanted more. No geometric patterns etc.

So...if it aint my brain, is there something in my batch of GT's that I grew that could have caused them to be so impotent? IF there is bacteria in the grow...does that make them less potent etc?

Im just stumped and seeking answers!

Thanks


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Re: WTF...that was disappointing first time!! [Re: Skibike] * 1
    #26415577 - 01/04/20 06:58 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

Normally if u want the full affect take the whole dose at once. When u space it out like you did it just makes the first dose last longer, not make you trip harder. You could have weak mushrooms but I bet you there fine and u just spaced them out too mush. I’d wait a week then do 3.5-4gs all at once.


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Re: WTF...that was disappointing first time!! [Re: SFS96]
    #26415621 - 01/04/20 07:53 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

he's right you take it all at once. i once had power go out while drinking a 2g took me 45 min-1 hour to drink it while doing electrical work.. felt nothing......


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Re: WTF...that was disappointing first time!! [Re: HappyHigh]
    #26415628 - 01/04/20 08:04 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

Ok thats slightly encouraging but.....I did take the first 2g all at once and expected at least a level 2 experience just from that. Especially when some people have said they tripped balls on 2g.


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Re: WTF...that was disappointing first time!! [Re: Skibike] * 1
    #26415639 - 01/04/20 08:17 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

I’d say level 1-2  is pretty common for 2 gs. Take a eighth or more at once if u want to have a harder trip. Sometimes if u get some really strong shrooms 2 grams will  make you trip hard but it normally takes me at least a eighth to get good visuals.


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Re: WTF...that was disappointing first time!! [Re: Skibike]
    #26415646 - 01/04/20 08:20 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

If you let that tea boil away for too long, then you probably probably killed  the potency in your first 3 grams. The only potent shrooms to get in your system would be the .7g you ate. If the stuff was not super strong to begin with, then you have basically experienced a microdose. Or low dose, like a 1 gram experience.


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Re: WTF...that was disappointing first time!! [Re: Universe]
    #26415648 - 01/04/20 08:24 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

Boiling for 15min will not hurt the actives at all. Many people boil for 15min then strain and boil again to a reduce.


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Re: WTF...that was disappointing first time!! [Re: SFS96]
    #26415652 - 01/04/20 08:29 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

Yes, was just going to say...I followed the tea tek where people said it doesnt harm or reduce the actives and in fact many report a more intense reaction. However, I did wonder whether the reducing of volume (which mine did by half), how that doesnt also reduce the active substance.

I did add ground ginger to my tea but I made that first and then boiled the shrooms in the tea so I don’t think that would’ve made a difference.


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Re: WTF...that was disappointing first time!! [Re: Skibike]
    #26415666 - 01/04/20 08:38 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

It concentrates the actives when you reduce because water evaporates leaving the actives in your pot with less water. It definitely doesn’t hurt to reduce but I never do. I like to make tea on the stove like you normally would with tea bags then toss the bags in the trash and throw the shrooms in the pot of tea then boil for 15min. Strain and add sugar and it some good shit:thumbup:


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Re: WTF...that was disappointing first time!! [Re: SFS96]
    #26415668 - 01/04/20 08:39 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

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SFS96 said:
I’d say level 1-2  is pretty common for 2 gs. Take a eighth or more at once if u want to have a harder trip. Sometimes if u get some really strong shrooms 2 grams will  make you trip hard but it normally takes me at least a eighth to get good visuals.




:whathesaid:

Even at 3.5, I still find my self searching for more, so, many times when I want to trip, I aim for 5g because I know it'll floor me.

Don't piddling with dosing if you're 'looking' for visuals, especially with common cubensis varieties.


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Re: WTF...that was disappointing first time!! [Re: HamHead]
    #26415688 - 01/04/20 08:54 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

Weak shrooms or a high individual natural tolerance.

Dose higher next time. Wait a week or two in between.

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Re: WTF...that was disappointing first time!! [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26415749 - 01/04/20 09:36 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

People purposefully ruined it.

Even if it is your first time, you can’t even really always continually trip. There are energy limits to the universe that can be shown mathematically, but it must be spread out and can’t be abused.


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Re: WTF...that was disappointing first time!! [Re: Pandemoon] * 1
    #26415750 - 01/04/20 09:36 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

To be honest, 2 grams is not that much. If you've got some exceptional mushrooms, 2g may give you a good ride.. but for the most part, 2g is a "microdose" IMHO. The real experience begins around 4g+.

PS: Set&Setting is HUGE. I can't stress enough the importance. Even, while on a minimal dose.


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Re: WTF...that was disappointing first time!! [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast] * 1
    #26415768 - 01/04/20 09:49 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

Yeah that’s how I did my tea @Astro.

I think other peoples experiences of lift off with 2g AND universal recommendation of 2g for first time, is why I went with that.

Setting was perfect...low lights, quiet, meditation music. The vague images when I closed my eyes almost seemed to be in time to the music, so was perfect!

Could different shrooms from the same harvest vary a lot in terms of potency? Meaning, could the content of psilocybin be vastly different in another batch of tea I make from the same harvest? Thinking about for my next go around.

And heres a pic of one of my bigger shrooms after harvest:


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Re: WTF...that was disappointing first time!! [Re: Skibike] * 1
    #26415799 - 01/04/20 10:13 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

Quote:

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Yeah that’s how I did my tea @Astro.

I think other peoples experiences of lift off with 2g AND universal recommendation of 2g for first time, is why I went with that.

Setting was perfect...low lights, quiet, meditation music. The vague images when I closed my eyes almost seemed to be in time to the music, so was perfect!

Could different shrooms from the same harvest vary a lot in terms of potency? Meaning, could the content of psilocybin be vastly different in another batch of tea I make from the same harvest? Thinking about for my next go around.

And heres a pic of one of my bigger shrooms after harvest:




Absolutely. Each mushrooms is different than the one right next to it. 3.5 is a good dose to really get familiar with getting your feet wet. Though, 2g does have its pros.

I just figure, if I'm going to trip.. I want the experience and not just the ride to the parking lot without getting on the ride.

:cheers:


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Re: WTF...that was disappointing first time!! [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26415810 - 01/04/20 10:23 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

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I just figure, if I'm going to trip.. I want the experience and not just the ride to the parking lot without getting on the ride.





Well put...thats exactly what it felt like...a glimpse into a magical experience. But the good thing is it has me wanting more versus some bad trip experience.


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Re: WTF...that was disappointing first time!! [Re: Skibike]
    #26415881 - 01/04/20 11:31 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

You can try adding fresh lemon juice to the tea (from the beginning),
it will help to preserve the actives by protecting them from oxidizing,
and the acid will make them more bioavailable.
But could also be the mushrooms, I had pretty bunk experiences on 3.5g,
but also super intense ones.


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Re: WTF...that was disappointing first time!! [Re: sporecap]
    #26416491 - 01/04/20 06:33 PM (4 years, 25 days ago)

Dont have too many expectations, OP you seem to be taking the "levels " literal when you should just let it happen and not build it up before even dosing.

Next time eat it all at once and let it do its thing. Also eating it may fair out better imo.


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Re: WTF...that was disappointing first time!! [Re: SonicTitan]
    #26416507 - 01/04/20 06:42 PM (4 years, 25 days ago)

I do love doing teas, don't get me wrong. BUT, sometimes I feel like there's always something left behind in the mushrooms that I didn't get (I don't eat the mushrooms after doing a boil) - gross.

But, when you eat them... YOU ARE GETTING ALL THE GOODS. I'm more than sure you are with tea as well...  just think it's palcebo. Tea's fuck me hard and long. You're practically peaking on the comeup. Fun stuff.

:whathesaid:
Don't have too many expectations, especially when it comes to levels. That's just a way of trying to explain an experience in "normal volumes" - but there's no way possible of explaining it. There's a millions different types of "level 1,2,3,4 and 5's. To put a trip into one category is not the best way to look at it.

Moreso, what lessons you have learned and your thoughts that come across your mind while you're under the influence. That seems to always be something I pay attention to.. I've had some of my most profound thoughts with zero visuals before - also some of my best trips without visuals.

Mushrooms.. are.. just.... WEIRD.
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Re: WTF...that was disappointing first time!! [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26416515 - 01/04/20 06:48 PM (4 years, 25 days ago)

Yea the mental experience is most times the main effects with mushrooms. Especially at doses like 2 grams. Generally you will have some visuals but at lower doses of normal cubes will not be very strong for the most part. I've had extremely profound mental trips on low doses.


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Re: WTF...that was disappointing first time!! [Re: SonicTitan]
    #26416564 - 01/04/20 07:23 PM (4 years, 25 days ago)

The fact is that 2 grams is not a lot. What you did was take a 2 gram dose then essentially extended it by redosing later. You need to take all 3.7g at the same time to have a 3.7g dose.
There will also be times when you will grow weak shrooms, especially if you use multispore. Some batches will blow your brains out. I have had eighths that have blinded me, but I've also had eighths that felt like a typical 1g experience.


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Re: WTF...that was disappointing first time!! [Re: Corundum]
    #26416961 - 01/05/20 02:23 AM (4 years, 24 days ago)

I’ve made a couple of spore prints; I am going to try ‘again’ to produce a single-spore petri-dish. Then that way I know my doses will be homogenous, noting also that there are other ways to achieve this (grind the complete stash and mix thoroughly then store in tea bags or capsules). But if I can get a really potent single spore......

I am trying to re-introduce an old friend to mushrooms; it would be perfect if I were to know beforehand exactly what trip (level) he would get from say 3.5g dry......

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Re: WTF...that was disappointing first time!! [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26416970 - 01/05/20 02:44 AM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Basically with your first dose I'm guessing that your serotonin receptors was able to handle the uptake dump. These receptors are not likely to meet the demand of the second dose with as much release as if you were to take those 2g 24-48 hours later.


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Re: WTF...that was disappointing first time!! [Re: HolyBolete]
    #26417150 - 01/05/20 08:15 AM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Ahh. Thanks everyone, such great advice from everyone. Yeah In retrospect it wasn’t disappointing, only if I want to compare it to an expectation I had. It was still a wonderful experience and as Vibe mentioned.......it was the overall thoughts,  visuals, music, feelings, when I closed my eyes that was so peaceful and gratifying.

One thing though and not sure if others had this, but the day after I felt almost hungover. Not bad like a true drunk hungover, but-like my brain was groggy and I just wanted to be quiet and in my thoughts. I certainly didn’t have a feeling of euphoria either though.


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Re: WTF...that was disappointing first time!! [Re: Skibike]
    #26417539 - 01/05/20 01:09 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

:2cents:
Normally with GT I take 4 to 5 grams for a good trip. My advice is not to re-dose during a trip. Make a plan, take the dose and play the cards God dealt you. The last time I re-dosed, I went further into hyperspace then I was expecting.


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