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#26415062 - 01/03/20 07:47 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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these things are being pumped out at mad speed. the sad thing is if you would of read these articles 20 years old you would of thought they were from the Onion. but there not. People ACTUALLY think things like "math is racist" and race and gender are social constructs. people get fired for stating biological facts j.k. rowlin gets attacked for saying people shouldn't lose there jobs for their opinions on gender. comedians get cancelled fined and get bad reviews by critics for jokes don't toe their woke sjw beliefs. these people ruin everything. every halloween someone bitches about a costume thats cultural appropriation. fads come and go right? will this stop or do you think the shit that comes out of these peoples mouth will get more absurd?
i know there are a lot of liberals on the shroomery how do you feel about how far left the democractic party has gone? would you like to see america implement the same same speech laws the U.K has? OR do you veiw the progressive extremists the same way most conservates veiw the kkk? (meaning shake her head in embarrassment and wish they would leave the party)
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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: 1uptoadstool]
#26415074 - 01/03/20 07:51 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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With all the social conflict going on i just stay at home or around good friends. Maybe someday people will become more tolerant of each other. Im just glad to not be famous in this era. Would be extremely stressful
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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: 1uptoadstool] 2
#26415098 - 01/03/20 08:14 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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1uptoadstool said: these things are being pumped out at mad speed. the sad thing is if you would of read these articles 20 years old you would of thought they were from the Onion. but there not. People ACTUALLY think things like "math is racist" and race and gender are social constructs. people get fired for stating biological facts j.k. rowlin gets attacked for saying people shouldn't lose there jobs for their opinions on gender. comedians get cancelled fined and get bad reviews by critics for jokes don't toe their woke sjw beliefs. these people ruin everything. every halloween someone bitches about a costume thats cultural appropriation. fads come and go right? will this stop or do you think the shit that comes out of these peoples mouth will get more absurd?
i know there are a lot of liberals on the shroomery how do you feel about how far left the democractic party has gone? would you like to see america implement the same same speech laws the U.K has? OR do you veiw the progressive extremists the same way most conservates veiw the kkk? (meaning shake her head in embarrassment and wish they would leave the party)
Yeah it's so over the top it's absurd. Some of these articles you see about different things that people are outraged about -- everyday it's something different and more absurd. It's almost like we're living inside a parody or something.
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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: 1uptoadstool]
#26415204 - 01/03/20 09:21 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I identify with the following values.Quote:
Republicanism includes guarantees of rights that cannot be repealed by a majority vote.[7] Alexis de Tocqueville warned about the "tyranny of the majority" in a democracy, and suggested the courts should try to reverse the efforts of the majority of terminating the rights of an unpopular minority.
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[John] Adams insisted, "There must be a positive Passion for the public good, the public Interest, Honor, Power, and Glory, established in the Minds of the People, or there can be no Republican Government, nor any real Liberty. And this public Passion must be Superior to all private Passions. Men must be ready, they must pride themselves, and be happy to sacrifice their private Pleasures, Passions, and Interests, nay their private Friendships and dearest connections, when they Stand in Competition with the Rights of society.
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John F. Kennedy defined a liberal as follows:[19][20] If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people—their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties—someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal", then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal".
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In 1941, Franklin D. Roosevelt defined a liberal party as such: The liberal party believes that, as new conditions and problems arise beyond the power of men and women to meet as individuals, it becomes the duty of Government itself to find new remedies with which to meet them. The liberal party insists that the Government has the definite duty to use all its power and resources to meet new social problems with new social controls—to ensure to the average person the right to his own economic and political life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.[21]
Regarding your question, I would be more concerned if it wasn't being reported in the media.
Once you start rallying others to support you in taking away the civil liberties of unpopular minority groups who are just living their lives and who aren't hurting anyone, you can no longer say you are acting in the public interest.
Sure, you have the right to be a Nazi. In turn, the media has the right to report the fact that you are being a Nazi.
Why should it bother anyone to look into a mirror?
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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: kneesocks] 3
#26415233 - 01/03/20 09:36 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Those are all quotes from back in the day, a different time. Liberals are a new beast it seems now days.
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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: Amanita86] 4
#26415274 - 01/03/20 10:20 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's absurd. I have a friend in his 40s who prefers to date guys 20 years his junior. Recently he has encountered not 1, but 2 prospects who asked him to not leave periods in text responses to them because they found periods offensive. It's fucking disgusting and it shames me to know how much ov my fellow LGBT community in particular is corrupted by this leftist SJW bullshit. The modern extreme left has hijacked the term liberal as what they truly represent is contradictory to the term. A SJW hates hate so much that (s)he needs to invent more hate to hate. A SJW freely speaks upon the free speech that (s)he wants to stifle. Social justice absolutely should'nt be synonymous with social repression, but that is exactly what it has become in modern times.
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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: lavod]
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Geez, you guys have really hit rough seas over there. 
I hope sanity is restored before it tears you all apart.
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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: kneesocks] 1
#26415296 - 01/03/20 10:36 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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kneesocks said: I identify with the following values.Quote:
Republicanism includes guarantees of rights that cannot be repealed by a majority vote.[7] Alexis de Tocqueville warned about the "tyranny of the majority" in a democracy, and suggested the courts should try to reverse the efforts of the majority of terminating the rights of an unpopular minority.
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[John] Adams insisted, "There must be a positive Passion for the public good, the public Interest, Honor, Power, and Glory, established in the Minds of the People, or there can be no Republican Government, nor any real Liberty. And this public Passion must be Superior to all private Passions. Men must be ready, they must pride themselves, and be happy to sacrifice their private Pleasures, Passions, and Interests, nay their private Friendships and dearest connections, when they Stand in Competition with the Rights of society.
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John F. Kennedy defined a liberal as follows:[19][20] If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people—their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties—someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal", then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal".
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In 1941, Franklin D. Roosevelt defined a liberal party as such: The liberal party believes that, as new conditions and problems arise beyond the power of men and women to meet as individuals, it becomes the duty of Government itself to find new remedies with which to meet them. The liberal party insists that the Government has the definite duty to use all its power and resources to meet new social problems with new social controls—to ensure to the average person the right to his own economic and political life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.[21]
Regarding your question, I would be more concerned if it wasn't being reported in the media.
Once you start rallying others to support you in taking away the civil liberties of unpopular minority groups who are just living their lives and who aren't hurting anyone, you can no longer say you are acting in the public interest.
Sure, you have the right to be a Nazi. In turn, the media has the right to report the fact that you are being a Nazi.
Why should it bother anyone to look into a mirror?
Political Correctness isn't about any of those strawman arguments you just made. It's about identity politics with "victims" and "perpetrators" for political gain.
The PC Police have now reached a level of absurdity that allowed Trump to get elected. In other words, the inevitable backlash has occurred.
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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: qman]
#26415354 - 01/03/20 11:30 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think it's a social experiment paid for by extreme progressives with deep pockets funneling money into the universities in exchange for professors pushing this ideology on students .their goal is to get to the point where people view offensive language the same way they view physical assault making it easier to abolish the first amendment
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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: kneesocks] 3
#26415361 - 01/03/20 11:42 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sure, you have the right to be a Nazi. In turn, the media has the right to report the fact that you are being a Nazi.
Why should it bother anyone to look into a mirror?
See, this is a perfect example of it right here.
Everyone is a "Nazi" (which is utterly, blatantly and disgustingly disrespectful to those who actually suffered at the hands of actual real Nazis by the way) who doesn't fall in line with exactly step for step with that they say and believe.

I don't think some of you have any idea or faintest clue whatsoever as to what an actual real Nazi is or was.
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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: lavod]
#26415363 - 01/03/20 11:44 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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lavod said: It's absurd. I have a friend in his 40s who prefers to date guys 20 years his junior. Recently he has encountered not 1, but 2 prospects who asked him to not leave periods in text responses to them because they found periods offensive.
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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: Niffla]
#26415404 - 01/04/20 12:42 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Niffla said:
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lavod said: It's absurd. I have a friend in his 40s who prefers to date guys 20 years his junior. Recently he has encountered not 1, but 2 prospects who asked him to not leave periods in text responses to them because they found periods offensive.

Yeah. Who wants to be reminded of bleeding women when arranging a cock sucking session.
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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: Niffla] 1
#26415425 - 01/04/20 01:13 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Niffla said: Everyone is a "Nazi" (which is utterly, blatantly and disgustingly disrespectful to those who actually suffered at the hands of actual real Nazis by the way) who doesn't fall in line with exactly step for step with that they say and believe.
I don't think some of you have any idea or faintest clue whatsoever as to what an actual real Nazi is or was.
I'm well aware of what the Nazis did. All I have is what I see. I see the country divided in the same way it's been since the Civil War. I'm aware that the Confederates threw a fit because they didn't want to give up their slaves, among other reasons. Some of that same ideology has resurfaced in modern times and this is the thing I oppose.
Slavery was the ‘African Holocaust.’ I think the millions who died deserve that word.
Political correctness isn't really too far fetched. If one allows themselves to think garbage and then gets fired for speaking garbage, I feel that it's fair.
If one allows themselves to think garbage and then mistreats a minority group because of inherent bias related to thinking that garbage, that's not fair.
The repercussions go far beyond one's freedom to say offensive things. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should or that it's right.
I believe it's importantant to choose one's battles wisely. Some of the extremes described in this thread would not meet that criteria, certainly. It's a real mess out there.
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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: kneesocks] 1
#26415447 - 01/04/20 02:06 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Niffla said: Everyone is a "Nazi" (which is utterly, blatantly and disgustingly disrespectful to those who actually suffered at the hands of actual real Nazis by the way) who doesn't fall in line with exactly step for step with that they say and believe.
I don't think some of you have any idea or faintest clue whatsoever as to what an actual real Nazi is or was.
I'm well aware of what the Nazis did. All I have is what I see. I see the country divided in the same way it's been since the Civil War. I'm aware that the Confederates threw a fit because they didn't want to give up their slaves, among other reasons. Some of that same ideology has resurfaced in modern times and this is the thing I oppose.
Slavery was the ‘African Holocaust.’ I think the millions who died deserve that word.
Political correctness isn't really too far fetched. If one allows themselves to think garbage and then gets fired for speaking garbage, I feel that it's fair.
If one allows themselves to think garbage and then mistreats a minority group because of inherent bias related to thinking that garbage, that's not fair.
The repercussions go far beyond one's freedom to say offensive things. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should or that it's right.
I believe it's importantant to choose one's battles wisely. Some of the extremes described in this thread would not meet that criteria, certainly. It's a real mess out there.
Fair enough, kneesocks. Sometimes I just get annoyed at how casually and liberally that word gets thrown around, but I do appreciate and respect your well thought out response and position on this.
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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: kneesocks] 1
#26415476 - 01/04/20 03:01 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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kneesocks said:
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Niffla said: Everyone is a "Nazi" (which is utterly, blatantly and disgustingly disrespectful to those who actually suffered at the hands of actual real Nazis by the way) who doesn't fall in line with exactly step for step with that they say and believe.
I don't think some of you have any idea or faintest clue whatsoever as to what an actual real Nazi is or was.
I'm well aware of what the Nazis did. All I have is what I see. I see the country divided in the same way it's been since the Civil War. I'm aware that the Confederates threw a fit because they didn't want to give up their slaves, among other reasons. Some of that same ideology has resurfaced in modern times and this is the thing I oppose.
Slavery was the ‘African Holocaust.’ I think the millions who died deserve that word.
Political correctness isn't really too far fetched. If one allows themselves to think garbage and then gets fired for speaking garbage, I feel that it's fair.
If one allows themselves to think garbage and then mistreats a minority group because of inherent bias related to thinking that garbage, that's not fair.
The repercussions go far beyond one's freedom to say offensive things. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should or that it's right.
I believe it's importantant to choose one's battles wisely. Some of the extremes described in this thread would not meet that criteria, certainly. It's a real mess out there.
Here we go bring up slavery again f*** off dude.
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#26415481 - 01/04/20 03:07 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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if your sense of white guilt is really that bad and you truly want to repent for the sins of your ancestors then find tree and lynch yourself
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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: 1uptoadstool]
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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: 1uptoadstool] 7
#26415551 - 01/04/20 06:16 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I agree that a lot of PC stuff has gotten out of hand. For instance, the Fat Acceptance/ HAES movements seem to be completely comprised of crazy people. Which isn’t to say that we should just go around fat-shaming people, but that the advocates for those movements seem to have lost touch with reality and have unreal expectations for the world and society around them. Another good example was put forth by lavod- I never heard of someone being offended by punctuation, that idea sounds completely ridiculous. But I can’t doubt that they’re out there, getting mad about periods... for some reason? A lot of this shit is going beyond the comprehension of normal people.
Now, here’s where I have a problem with anti-PC folks. It feels like in the past five years or so, things have gotten rebranded by people with agendas. Kindness and compassion have been commonly labeled as “PC”, and the knee jerk reaction that comes with that phrase usually results in pushing back against stuff that’s just about human decency. Ideas like “hey, maybe we could be cool to transgendered people, you know, look out for them and shit”, things that are just basic empathy, have been rebranded and marketed as “PC” so there’s a already built in group who rail against that idea (or anything else empathetic) without giving it any thought.
An example I’ve seen in this thread is that someone said, in essence, that slavery is trash. It was trash, any decent person accepts that. But instead this person got told to “lynch yourself” over their “white guilt”. I don’t even know if kneesocks is white, but I can tell you that that type of pushback over the simple notion that slavery was garbage is an example of anti-PC going too far and looking just as crazy as PC.
So yeah, there’s just issues all around. People going too far one way and expecting every social whim to be catered to, and then folks go too far the other way, completely eschewing kindness and compassion to say that they stand firmly against the “PC police”.
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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: kneesocks]
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kneesocks said:
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Niffla said: Everyone is a "Nazi" (which is utterly, blatantly and disgustingly disrespectful to those who actually suffered at the hands of actual real Nazis by the way) who doesn't fall in line with exactly step for step with that they say and believe.
I don't think some of you have any idea or faintest clue whatsoever as to what an actual real Nazi is or was.
I'm well aware of what the Nazis did. All I have is what I see. I see the country divided in the same way it's been since the Civil War. I'm aware that the Confederates threw a fit because they didn't want to give up their slaves, among other reasons. Some of that same ideology has resurfaced in modern times and this is the thing I oppose.
Slavery was the ‘African Holocaust.’ I think the millions who died deserve that word.
Political correctness isn't really too far fetched. If one allows themselves to think garbage and then gets fired for speaking garbage, I feel that it's fair.
If one allows themselves to think garbage and then mistreats a minority group because of inherent bias related to thinking that garbage, that's not fair.
The repercussions go far beyond one's freedom to say offensive things. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should or that it's right.
I believe it's importantant to choose one's battles wisely. Some of the extremes described in this thread would not meet that criteria, certainly. It's a real mess out there.
Talk about creating false narratives, you do realize PC culture isn't just about stopping people from stating potentially offensive comments to certain groups of people?
PC culture is about labeling certain groups as victims and ONE group as the automatic perpetrators.
PC culture is about attending a mandated "diversity training" class that assumes you're automatically a racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, anti-Semitic bigot because of your demographic and now needs sensitivity education. That assumption is highly offensive and presumptuous, and makes people to despise this political correctness agenda.
PC is a movement full of hypocrisy and double standards, it rationalizes behavior from one group because of their minority status and then relentlessly attacks another group for events that took place deep in the history books. PC isn't about unity and equality, it's about social and economic revenge with identity politics.
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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: Burke Dennings]
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Burke Dennings said: I agree that a lot of PC stuff has gotten out of hand. For instance, the Fat Acceptance/ HAES movements seem to be completely comprised of crazy people. Which isn’t to say that we should just go around fat-shaming people, but that the advocates for those movements seem to have lost touch with reality and have unreal expectations for the world and society around them. Another good example was put forth by lavod- I never heard of someone being offended by punctuation, that idea sounds completely ridiculous. But I can’t doubt that they’re out there, getting mad about periods... for some reason? A lot of this shit is going beyond the comprehension of normal people.
Now, here’s where I have a problem with anti-PC folks. It feels like in the past five years or so, things have gotten rebranded by people with agendas. Kindness and compassion have been commonly labeled as “PC”, and the knee jerk reaction that comes with that phrase usually results in pushing back against stuff that’s just about human decency. Ideas like “hey, maybe we could be cool to transgendered people, you know, look out for them and shit”, things that are just basic empathy, have been rebranded and marketed as “PC” so there’s a already built in group who rail against that idea (or anything else empathetic) without giving it any thought.
An example I’ve seen in this thread is that someone said, in essence, that slavery is trash. It was trash, any decent person accepts that. But instead this person got told to “lynch yourself” over their “white guilt”. I don’t even know if kneesocks is white, but I can tell you that that type of pushback over the simple notion that slavery was garbage is an example of anti-PC going too far and looking just as crazy as PC.
So yeah, there’s just issues all around. People going too far one way and expecting every social whim to be catered to, and then folks go too far the other way, completely eschewing kindness and compassion to say that they stand firmly against the “PC police”.
being polite to transgender people is one thing being sued as a gynecologist because you refuse to check a dude's ball sack for cervical cancer or lose your job because you disagree that gender is a social construct is another. or lose your job because you speak out against biological men competing against women in sports
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