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Re: US kills Iran’s most powerful general in Baghdad airstrike [Re: r00tcmplx] * 2
    #26418755 - 01/06/20 05:35 AM (4 years, 23 days ago)

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koods said:
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questioned about their political views and allegiances.




Political correctness testing isn’t something that should be happening at the border to American residents




As if you're going to be told exactly why you're being questioned or were flagged by an invasive and automated computerized tracking system....

You think they're being questioned for political correctness...
:canthelpbutlaugh:
Watch the video demo from Palintir i posted...
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2018-palantir-peter-thiel/

You can get flagged just from proximity to a questionable person in your social graph.
Stop believing in garbage headline stories.

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I dindu nuffin.. I dunno why I was questioned...




Riggggghhhht

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-16810312
https://techcrunch.com/2019/08/27/border-deny-entry-united-states-social-media/
https://www.theverge.com/2016/12/22/14066082/us-customs-border-patrol-social-media-account-facebook-twitter

I repeat again, you're tracked 50 ways to Sunday.
Play stupid games win stupid prizes.




I want to nominate you for a prize.


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Re: US kills Iran’s most powerful general in Baghdad airstrike [Re: Brian Jones] * 2
    #26418812 - 01/06/20 06:52 AM (4 years, 23 days ago)

Woke up to some cool fake war crime news this morning  . I can’t believe cnn would tell lies about trump like this . Assholes , trying to make me think we live in the kinda country that that just goes around committing war crimes because our leader is a  reckless lunatic who gives no fucks about international law . Totally cnns fault I feel this way .

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Trump's threatened attack on Iranian cultural sites could be a war crime if carried out




https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/01/05/world/trump-iran-cultural-sites-war-crime/index.html


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Re: US kills Iran’s most powerful general in Baghdad airstrike [Re: koods] * 1
    #26418846 - 01/06/20 07:13 AM (4 years, 23 days ago)

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3000 shipped out this weekend





Since we're feeding and paying them anyway, might as well put them to use.


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Re: US kills Iran’s most powerful general in Baghdad airstrike [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
    #26418929 - 01/06/20 08:19 AM (4 years, 23 days ago)

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Psilynut2 said:
Woke up to some cool fake war crime news this morning  . I can’t believe cnn would tell lies about trump like this . Assholes , trying to make me think we live in the kinda country that that just goes around committing war crimes because our leader is a  reckless lunatic who gives no fucks about international law . Totally cnns fault I feel this way .

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Trump's threatened attack on Iranian cultural sites could be a war crime if carried out




https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/01/05/world/trump-iran-cultural-sites-war-crime/index.html




Who was the last US President not to commit any "war crimes"?  :popcorn:


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Re: US kills Iran’s most powerful general in Baghdad airstrike [Re: qman]
    #26418934 - 01/06/20 08:25 AM (4 years, 23 days ago)

That doesn't really condone the new guys war crimes though.

Especially when he's such an expert masturbator negotiator.


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Re: US kills Iran’s most powerful general in Baghdad airstrike [Re: qman]
    #26418944 - 01/06/20 08:35 AM (4 years, 23 days ago)

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Who was the last US President not to commit any "war crimes"?  :popcorn:



Obama won the nobel peace prize.  You don't get that if you've committed war crimes.

FACTS!


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Re: US kills Iran’s most powerful general in Baghdad airstrike [Re: qman] * 3
    #26419021 - 01/06/20 09:53 AM (4 years, 23 days ago)

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Psilynut2 said:
Woke up to some cool fake war crime news this morning  . I can’t believe cnn would tell lies about trump like this . Assholes , trying to make me think we live in the kinda country that that just goes around committing war crimes because our leader is a  reckless lunatic who gives no fucks about international law . Totally cnns fault I feel this way .

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Trump's threatened attack on Iranian cultural sites could be a war crime if carried out




https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/01/05/world/trump-iran-cultural-sites-war-crime/index.html




Who was the last US President not to commit any "war crimes"?  :popcorn:




https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/08/18/jimmy-carters-blood-drenched-legacy/
Noam Chomsky said Jimmy "Carter was the least violent of American presidents but he did things that I think would certainly fall under Nuremberg provisions".

I couldn't find anything in the article to suggest Carter actively ordered anything that would be a war crime but there were what might be called "sins of omission" and indirect actions that lead to many deaths in Latin America, Africa and elsewhere.


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Re: US kills Iran’s most powerful general in Baghdad airstrike [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
    #26419166 - 01/06/20 11:36 AM (4 years, 23 days ago)

What about using drones to murder people at will without a trial or anything?  Isn't that a war crime?

What about using the drone to circle back and murder first responders?  Isn't that a war crime?

Obama should have his peace prize rescinded.


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Re: US kills Iran’s most powerful general in Baghdad airstrike [Re: qman]
    #26419172 - 01/06/20 11:40 AM (4 years, 23 days ago)

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qman said:
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Psilynut2 said:
Woke up to some cool fake war crime news this morning  . I can’t believe cnn would tell lies about trump like this . Assholes , trying to make me think we live in the kinda country that that just goes around committing war crimes because our leader is a  reckless lunatic who gives no fucks about international law . Totally cnns fault I feel this way .

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Trump's threatened attack on Iranian cultural sites could be a war crime if carried out




https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/01/05/world/trump-iran-cultural-sites-war-crime/index.html




Who was the last US President not to commit any "war crimes"?  :popcorn:




Depends on your definition of war crimes.

If we’re going by the Geneva Conventions definition, then every president in US history.


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Re: US kills Iran’s most powerful general in Baghdad airstrike [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #26419243 - 01/06/20 12:29 PM (4 years, 23 days ago)

Humor has it that the general's tweets scored higher than Trumps.

Can I still say that without my city block getting plowed by missiles? :uhoh:


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Re: US kills Iran’s most powerful general in Baghdad airstrike [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #26419251 - 01/06/20 12:34 PM (4 years, 23 days ago)

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Depends on your definition of war crimes.

If we’re going by the Geneva Conventions definition, then every president in US history.




How could a president violate the Geneva convention before it existed though ?


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Re: US kills Iran’s most powerful general in Baghdad airstrike [Re: Psilynut2] * 2
    #26419265 - 01/06/20 12:47 PM (4 years, 23 days ago)

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Depends on your definition of war crimes.

If we’re going by the Geneva Conventions definition, then every president in US history.




How could a president violate the Geneva convention before it existed though ?




That’s why I said it depends on the definition.

That’s like saying “how did Cain murder Abel before murder was a thing?” If we’re forgiving the first 150 years of US presidents doing war crimes, then only the ones after the Geneva conventions count. So from Truman to Trump. But is anyone gonna suggest FDR didn’t commit war crimes? Japanese internment? Dresden? Etc


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Re: US kills Iran’s most powerful general in Baghdad airstrike [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
    #26419296 - 01/06/20 01:07 PM (4 years, 23 days ago)



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Re: US kills Iran’s most powerful general in Baghdad airstrike [Re: feevers]
    #26419583 - 01/06/20 04:16 PM (4 years, 23 days ago)

Everyone who supports trump needs to go out and buy Hooked on Phonics so they can read all of the big words ( not just the small ones ) in the war powers act and actually comprehend the shit .

Here’s a link in case any of y’all want to get the jump on stupid .

https://subscriptions.hookedonphonics.com/combo/1-month-brs-1a?vc=HPG1&pc=SHPGBR&utm_channel=S&utm_content=BrandDollarPacks&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIiMan_ozw5gIVBqvsCh0xKQOpEAAYASAAEgJkivD_BwE


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Re: US kills Iran’s most powerful general in Baghdad airstrike [Re: Psilynut2]
    #26419604 - 01/06/20 04:27 PM (4 years, 23 days ago)

It provides that the president can send the U.S. Armed Forces into action abroad only by declaration of war by

Congress,
"statutory authorization,"
or in case of "a national emergency created by attack upon the United States,
its territories or possessions,
or its armed forces."



It provides that the president can send the U.S. Armed Forces into action abroad only by declaration of war by a national emergency created by attack upon the United States' armed forces.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_K-1_Air_Base_attack

Seems like it could be twisted pretty easily to get pesky Congress out of the way.


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Re: US kills Iran’s most powerful general in Baghdad airstrike [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26419703 - 01/06/20 05:26 PM (4 years, 23 days ago)

You don't need congressional approval to counter-attack terrorists.
Iran's various military groups were labeled terrorists organizations last year.
All of this clown posturing on twitter is just that.. disinformation/lies/posturing.

Nothing Trump did was Illegal. Obama did it even more and in fact changed the laws that the POTUS not only has authorization to kill foreign terrorists/organization at will without approval but also US citizens if they fall into that grouping :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdulrahman_al-Awlaki
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/30/obama-killed-a-16-year-old-american-in-yemen-trump-just-killed-his-8-year-old-sister/

Other countries do the same and even worse. So, no there is no moral high ground.
Moving right along.


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Re: US kills Iran’s most powerful general in Baghdad airstrike [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
    #26419707 - 01/06/20 05:28 PM (4 years, 23 days ago)

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Solid commentary and post...




I just want to thank you for your solid and reasoned posts throughout this thread packed with information.
A rarity


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Re: US kills Iran’s most powerful general in Baghdad airstrike [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #26419722 - 01/06/20 05:36 PM (4 years, 23 days ago)

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Sweet, hopefully they start checking for white nationalism on peoples Facebook pages. Nip those terrorist sum bitches in the bud. Do stupid shit....



My understanding is they already are and have been rounding people up for questioning/surveillance. Some arrests/etc :
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/fbi-faces-skepticism-over-its-anti-domestic-terror-efforts/2019/08/04/c9c928bc-b6e0-11e9-b3b4-2bb69e8c4e39_story.html
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/bjwkn5/white-nationalist-arrested-after-asking-undercover-fbi-agents-to-help-him-bomb-a-colorado-synagogue
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/04/nyregion/thomas-alonzo-bolin-white-supremacist.html
https://www.theverge.com/interface/2019/8/9/20797808/fbi-data-surveillance-proposals-hyp3r-homeland-security

Of course, there's the reality of good work being done against real threats and then there's the bs (that the news often reports on) :
https://twitter.com/CBP/status/1213951246463328256
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/476866-cbp-denies-claims-of-orders-to-detain-iranian-americans

Surprise, they weren't doing what the media claimed they were doing.
There's so much bogus disinformation and garbage in the media now-a-days, it isn't even worth discussing


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Re: US kills Iran’s most powerful general in Baghdad airstrike [Re: r00tcmplx]
    #26419735 - 01/06/20 05:48 PM (4 years, 23 days ago)

So they are dwnying it. Why am I to believe them? Towing the white house line got us into Iraq.


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Re: US kills Iran’s most powerful general in Baghdad airstrike [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #26419772 - 01/06/20 06:09 PM (4 years, 23 days ago)

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So they are dwnying it. Why am I to believe them? Towing the white house line got us into Iraq.




Believe whatever you want essentially, I think the world is past personal belief.
There's the people who have actionable influence and then there's the people that don't.
I'm not sure, given the quality of info being consistently given to people outside actionable influence, anyone cares anymore about what people personally think or believe and whether its right or wrong. I guess talk about for pages while the agenda/order of things keeps going along uninterrupted.


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