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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Niffla]
    #26415030 - 01/03/20 07:32 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

And yes, if an American (or any citizen from any country that matter) went over there thinking that Iran is an optimal place to hit a dance rave in the desert and have a blast just partying -- ummm, I think that person would unfortunately be in for a very, very rude awakening.


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Niffla]
    #26415033 - 01/03/20 07:33 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I doubt that. It’s not Saudi Arabia.

Shia Islam is quite a bit more rational than Sunni Islam


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: koods]
    #26415037 - 01/03/20 07:34 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I doubt that. It’s not Saudi Arabia.

Shia Islam is quite a bit more rational than Sunni Islam




What? The raves or the journalists getting arrested?


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Niffla]
    #26415040 - 01/03/20 07:35 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I think you have that backwards


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: cumpig]
    #26415050 - 01/03/20 07:39 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/14/books/review/jason-rezaian-prisoner.html

Jason Rezaian was his name. Actually he was thrown in jail before the Bourdain episode even aired. 544 days. They charged him with espionage.


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #26415064 - 01/03/20 07:48 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Saudi journalist get chopped up into little pieces and flushed into the sewer system

Seriously Iran is a lot more free than Saudi Arabia


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: koods]
    #26415073 - 01/03/20 07:51 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

When was the last time you heard of an Iranian terrorist blowing himself up in a cafe or shooting up a concert or club or crashing a plane into a building? All these so called terror attacks the right cites against Iran are actually attacks on military personnel in a war zone. Fair game under international law.


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: koods]
    #26415077 - 01/03/20 07:57 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

those drug laws arent really different from the USA


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: koods]
    #26415082 - 01/03/20 08:01 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Saudi journalist get chopped up into little pieces and flushed into the sewer system

Seriously Iran is a lot more free than Saudi Arabia




Okay so I guess Iran only tosses journalists in jail for a couple of years as opposed to chopping you up and putting you down a sewer drain

Iran wins...I guess? :lol:


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: koods]
    #26415127 - 01/03/20 08:27 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I doubt that. It’s not Saudi Arabia.

Shia Islam is quite a bit more rational than Sunni Islam



STOP.  Just stop.  This is completely dishonest.


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Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Niffla]
    #26415130 - 01/03/20 08:29 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

persians are awesome

fuck tha shah


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Niffla] * 2
    #26415132 - 01/03/20 08:32 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I know an Iranian guy as a fellow Nexus member, we've chatted for years. He's a nice guy but sick of a lot of societies bullshit. Has moved to a commune type setup.

I talked with him for a while about visiting, I really was serious about visiting for a while but had other more pressing obligations. He told me I'd be fine as long as I let people know really quickly that I'm not American. There is real hostility in the streets towards the west, it's not just on the part of puppet masters. It's understandable in a fucked up way, these people have lived through the wars and know who keeps bringing it to their doorsteps.


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Northerner]
    #26415146 - 01/03/20 08:40 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I talked with him for a while about visiting, I really was serious about visiting for a while but had other more pressing obligations. He told me I'd be fine as long as I let people know really quickly that I'm not American. There is real hostility in the streets towards the west, it's not just on the part of puppet masters. It's understandable in a fucked up way, these people have lived through the wars and know who keeps bringing it to their doorsteps.




Wait a second -- now I'm no war historian, nor do I pretend to be one, but just a click glance of all the war conflicts they've been involved in over time seem to be with their close neighbors of the middle east.

Is the United States to blame for all of those?


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: lowbrow]
    #26415150 - 01/03/20 08:43 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I doubt that. It’s not Saudi Arabia.

Shia Islam is quite a bit more rational than Sunni Islam



STOP.  Just stop.  This is completely dishonest.




You’re wrong.


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Niffla]
    #26415155 - 01/03/20 08:45 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I talked with him for a while about visiting, I really was serious about visiting for a while but had other more pressing obligations. He told me I'd be fine as long as I let people know really quickly that I'm not American. There is real hostility in the streets towards the west, it's not just on the part of puppet masters. It's understandable in a fucked up way, these people have lived through the wars and know who keeps bringing it to their doorsteps.




Wait a second -- now I'm no war historian, nor do I pretend to be one, but just a click glance of all the war conflicts they've been involved in over time seem to be with their close neighbors of the middle east.

Is the United States to blame for all of those?




We armed Iraq in their war with Iran. Does that count?



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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: koods] * 1
    #26415183 - 01/03/20 09:08 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I talked with him for a while about visiting, I really was serious about visiting for a while but had other more pressing obligations. He told me I'd be fine as long as I let people know really quickly that I'm not American. There is real hostility in the streets towards the west, it's not just on the part of puppet masters. It's understandable in a fucked up way, these people have lived through the wars and know who keeps bringing it to their doorsteps.




Wait a second -- now I'm no war historian, nor do I pretend to be one, but just a click glance of all the war conflicts they've been involved in over time seem to be with their close neighbors of the middle east.

Is the United States to blame for all of those?




We armed Iraq in their war with Iran. Does that count?






Sure, of course.

Anything else? And when I say that (anything else?), I am not saying that in a dismissive "is that all?" kind of way. I'm genuinely curious. Because like I said I really have no idea.


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Niffla] * 2
    #26415187 - 01/03/20 09:09 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I talked with him for a while about visiting, I really was serious about visiting for a while but had other more pressing obligations. He told me I'd be fine as long as I let people know really quickly that I'm not American. There is real hostility in the streets towards the west, it's not just on the part of puppet masters. It's understandable in a fucked up way, these people have lived through the wars and know who keeps bringing it to their doorsteps.




Wait a second -- now I'm no war historian, nor do I pretend to be one, but just a click glance of all the war conflicts they've been involved in over time seem to be with their close neighbors of the middle east.

Is the United States to blame for all of those?



Clearly not, but the meddling with politics and influence in the area has made them culpable for much in the last few generations. Even Saddam Hussein was a US bankrolled figurehead put in place to defeat Iran, then he stopped being a yes man for US interests and shit went south. Then came the first Gulf War and all the shit storm that ensued. Iran remembers that well, and so much since.

These guys were running up and down the desert chopping each other's heads off with swords and worshipping Allah for a long time, should have been left to do just that. Democracy isn't right for every nation despite what some may think.


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #26415200 - 01/03/20 09:18 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

And that's not mentioning that the CIA implemented a hated head of state in Iran, which they sent Saddam against.

They literally coerced the whole region into war. Criminal behaviour of the highest magnitude.


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Northerner]
    #26415232 - 01/03/20 09:34 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

the town where I live is essentially the site of the government of the Iranian royal family in exile. The son of the shah lives about two miles from me. I actually did his business card about 20 years ago. There is a huge population of exiled Iranians here. They really think they will be brought back into power someday

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reza_Pahlavi,_Crown_Prince_of_Iran

My moms good friend she plays tennis with and travels the world with (they’re going to Vietnam next week) is an exile whose father was a government official and was executed during the revolution. Her house is full of the most exquisite Persian rugs. She’s a trump supporter but likes mushroom hunting so that’s a wash I guess.

She was just talking about going back to Iran for the first time, but her sister has been a CIA agent for four decades so that might be a problem :lol:


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: koods]
    #26415239 - 01/03/20 09:43 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Apparently this soleimani guy was arming terrorists with missiles capable of taking down US planes, with explicit instructions to attack americans. He was also responsible for the deaths of hundreds of american soldiers going all the way back to the iraq war. He was a truly evil person who was planning (and attempting) to kill innocent americans.

This proxy war has to stop, and it's Iran that has been continuing it and escalating it over the years. Iran's motto is practically "death to america," a chant that the government of Iran makes sure that people shout at every rally. Iran needs to stop burning our embassies, killing our soldiers, harassing and threatening our ships on the ocean, and arming and training terrorists who attack us.


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