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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: 1uptoadstool] * 5
    #26416284 - 01/04/20 04:30 PM (4 years, 25 days ago)

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Niffla said:
Yeah it's so over the top it's absurd. Some of these articles you see about different things that people are outraged about -- everyday it's something different and more absurd. It's almost like we're living inside a parody or something.



I agree with this. I'm probably one of the people on the board OP might consider a liberal, although I'm actually pretty moderate. There are tons of moderate republicans who I'm a fan of and would vote for. I am a democrat though, and I do feel that the left has gone too far. And the feeling is pretty common among a lot of the left.

Don't get me wrong, everybody on the left still supports racial integration and equality, civil rights, LGBT, helping the homeless and stuff like that, but the whole outrage thing had already gone too far even 5-6 years ago.

I'm sure people on the right feel the same way about some stuff that has gone on on their side over the years. The people on the extreme ends of both parties have lost their minds.


Edited by nooneman (01/04/20 04:31 PM)


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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: nooneman] * 1
    #26416357 - 01/04/20 05:11 PM (4 years, 25 days ago)

i stopped using social media this year and i havent seen any outrage culture recently

its just kids and russians trying to coax kids into authoritarianism


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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: spirit_shadow] * 1
    #26416377 - 01/04/20 05:28 PM (4 years, 25 days ago)

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spirit_shadow said:
Oh shit didnt see that part about disrespecting coworkers. Yeah thats a bit uncalled for :/




No worries, it is easy to miss
the established case she went in to court for was drawing on her employer not rehiring her tied to tweets she made with regards to biological sex
and if she had carried the case on that alone, she likely would have won and forced the employer to rehire her
tho it would not have established the actual legal protection she considers herself to be the "test case" for

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Her contract at the charitable organisation, which is based in Washington and London, was not renewed in March after a dispute over publicising her views on social media.



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The Central London employment tribunal convened a preliminary hearing over the issue of whether her tweets, such as “men cannot change into women”, should be protected under the 2010 Equality Act.




when she got in to court she kind of stepped away from scientific fact
and started arguing that her view of biological sex was a "deeply held belief" that colours how she interacts with others and stuff
so at the end of it, the judge came down that it was impressing herself on others, and as such not a legally defensible right

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But in a 26-page judgment released late on Wednesday, Tayler dismissed her claim. “I conclude from … the totality of the evidence, that [Forstater] is absolutist in her view of sex and it is a core component of her belief that she will refer to a person by the sex she considered appropriate even if it violates their dignity and/or creates an intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating or offensive environment. The approach is not worthy of respect in a democratic society.”



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Louise Rea, a solicitor at the law firm Bates Wells which advised the CGD in the case, said: “Judge Tayler held that ‘the claimant’s view, in its absolutist nature, is incompatible with human dignity and fundamental rights of others’. He observed that the claimant was not entitled to ignore the legal rights of a person who has transitioned from male to female or vice versa and the ‘enormous pain that can be caused by misgendering a person’.

“A number of commentators have viewed this case as being about the claimant’s freedom of speech. Employment Judge Tayler acknowledged that there is nothing to stop the claimant campaigning against the proposed revisions to the Gender Recognition Act or, expressing her opinion that there should be some spaces that are restricted to women assigned female at birth. However, she can do so without insisting on calling transwomen men. It is the fact that her belief necessarily involves violating the dignity of others which means it is not protected under the Equality Act 2010.”



https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/dec/18/judge-rules-against-charity-worker-who-lost-job-over-transgender-tweets

honestly tho,
disambiguated from the trans issues
the core of it is essentially still an issue of portraying men as being inherently dangerous to women
as well as her initial tweet effectively trying to poke fun at how men are overly sensitive
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(because that might hurt mens feelings)



https://twitter.com/MForstater/status/1046450304986812416

she is arguably more focused on men than on trans issues -- her tweet quotes science in a manner that also "denies the reality" of transmen (biological women who transition to men)
but she focuses that science solely on the issue of transwomen and cis men; it's not that transpeople challenge the norm, it's that men threaten women and women's spaces


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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: koods]
    #26416402 - 01/04/20 05:40 PM (4 years, 25 days ago)

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koods said:
Go to our texts. Look for a period at the end of a text





You're talking about messenger (i just found about 10 periods in there btw), and that's a bit more fast paced than texting a phone number.  I use periods all the time in text messages.


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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: cannabinated]
    #26416422 - 01/04/20 05:48 PM (4 years, 25 days ago)

The media is just a shell of what it used to be

Its all based on clickbait and exploiting our instincts


More importantly tho, ppl that hate PC culture and read PC articles are most likely trolls trying divide a ppl along political lines :cookiemonster:


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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: 1234go]
    #26416423 - 01/04/20 05:49 PM (4 years, 25 days ago)

:chilldog:


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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: theRealrollforever]
    #26416436 - 01/04/20 05:57 PM (4 years, 25 days ago)

I hate PC culture and dont read liberal propaganda that is likely created to drum up republican support :shrug:


it sounds like republican states are primarily being targeted with this type of click bait content


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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: cannabinated]
    #26416550 - 01/04/20 07:15 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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cannabinated said:
I hate PC culture and dont read liberal propaganda that is likely created to drum up republican support :shrug:


it sounds like republican states are primarily being targeted with this type of click bait content




I think a lot of stories are misleading and exaggerated for the clicks. However I do live close to Kent State University And I can tell you the outrage sjw culture is real.


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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: 1uptoadstool]
    #26416552 - 01/04/20 07:17 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

and why does that affect me


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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: cannabinated]
    #26416566 - 01/04/20 07:25 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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cannabinated said:
and why does that affect me




It doesn't I guess untill you misgender someones emotional support gerbil and get hit with a bike lock


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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: 1uptoadstool]
    #26416580 - 01/04/20 07:39 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

id rather worry about real shit


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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: cannabinated] * 1
    #26416634 - 01/04/20 08:25 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

There's nothing wrong with people being weird. It adds diversity in a world full of freedom suppression. I remember in high school rockin the green Mohawk blazing some rancid and skating down the hallways. The world would be alot better if people learned to look more at themselves instead of judging everyone else.


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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: 1234go] * 1
    #26416820 - 01/04/20 10:47 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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1234go said:
I decided to google it, and a lot of stuff came up....it's a real thing.


https://newrepublic.com/article/115726/period-our-simplest-punctuation-mark-has-become-sign-anger
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/gene-weingarten-the-new-rules-of-punctuation-are-unbelievable-period/2019/07/08/8417cd02-8eca-11e9-b08e-cfd89bd36d4e_story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/06/13/stop-using-periods-period-2/




Thank you for looking this up.  It's unfortunate that such a thing is so absurd that its verity comes into question even by someone like koods, but it is indeed a real thing.  Ov course, ever the dramatic contrarian, koods then finds cohesion to the absurd view-point i highlighted! 

And no koods, what is pathetic is calling my honesty into question in an attempt to do some "virtue signaling" ov your own.  Quite low ov you to baselessly attack my character owing to the fact that my opinions are nearly always contrary to your own, but i'm well used to that from you by now.  Also, i fail to see where exactly i 'lost it' over something like this.  I merely shared an anecdote that correlates to the topic and commented upon the corruption ov modern SJW thinking.  Just because i find something absurd does'nt mean that i'm going to lose any sleep over it.


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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: lavod] * 1
    #26416919 - 01/05/20 01:13 AM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Except the period thing is not political correctness. It simply is an example of the change and evolution of language. A change that frankly has taken place without much notice. Most people do not end texts with a period. I’ve looked trough a lot of old texts and it is simply a fact. If no period texts are the norm, then texts ending with periods begin to stand out and their use might reasonably be interpreted to have a subtexual significance, just as ending a sentence with an exclamation point conveys a different attitude than a period - like the written word version of body language. What this has to do with leftist SJWs I have no idea.

If I had to guess, ending a text with a period is being interpreted by some people in a way that is similar to the meaning when someone ends a verbal sentence by saying the word “period.” For example, texting “I don’t want to go.” would be equivalent to saying “I don’t want to go. Period.”


Edited by koods (01/05/20 02:23 AM)


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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: Diego] * 1
    #26416948 - 01/05/20 02:05 AM (4 years, 24 days ago)

I think the problem is everyone has access to the internet as well as an outlet on said internet to voice their concerns. We're just now seeing all the bored, listless people with nothing better to do coming on here vs writing to a magazine and getting filtered out for being low quality, lol.


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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: koods] * 5
    #26417001 - 01/05/20 03:28 AM (4 years, 24 days ago)

That’s cute and all how you’re putting in a Mack Truck’s level of effort to pull that reasoning out of your ass but it still doesn’t explain someone getting offended because some normal folks end their texts and other sentences with periods...:nojustno:


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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: 1uptoadstool]
    #26417018 - 01/05/20 04:06 AM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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1uptoadstool said:
Quote:

cannabinated said:
and why does that affect me




It doesn't I guess untill you misgender someones emotional support gerbil and get hit with a bike lock



I misgendered somebody one time.  They didn't make a big deal about it.  And we ended up getting along.  :shrug:


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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: Amanita86]
    #26417034 - 01/05/20 04:40 AM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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Amanita86 said:
That’s cute and all how you’re putting in a Mack Truck’s level of effort to pull that reasoning out of your ass but it still doesn’t explain someone getting offended because some normal folks end their texts and other sentences with periods...:nojustno:




That’s your characterization of a second or third hand description. If you actually read the articles 1234go posted, the period isn’t offending people because there’s something wrong with periods, but because the use of a period in informal online communications is seen as rude or unfriendly. Like texting in all caps or something.


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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: chibiabos] * 1
    #26417036 - 01/05/20 04:42 AM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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chibiabos said:
Quote:

1uptoadstool said:
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cannabinated said:
and why does that affect me




It doesn't I guess untill you misgender someones emotional support gerbil and get hit with a bike lock



I misgendered somebody one time.  They didn't make a big deal about it.  And we ended up getting along.  :shrug:




Yeah it happens. Most people don’t get bent out of shape as long as you’re making an effort. People who get flak for misgenderig people are probably just assholes doing it on purpose to trigger libtards.


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Re: increase in outrage articles by the pc police [Re: Burke Dennings] * 1
    #26417155 - 01/05/20 08:22 AM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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Burke Dennings said:

I agree that a lot of PC stuff has gotten out of hand.  For instance, the Fat Acceptance/ HAES movements seem to be completely comprised of crazy people.  Which isn’t to say that we should just go around fat-shaming people, but that the advocates for those movements seem to have lost touch with reality and have unreal expectations for the world and society around them.




During a recent discussion I brought up the relationship between behavior and obesity. To talk about obesity without talking about behavior is nuts. But I got shot down hard by people who vehemently insist obesity is due to a medical problem. They were upset I brought up the topic of behavior because they see it as me "blaming" people. If you gain 100, 200, or 300 pounds, what you put in your pie-hole played a big roll.   

In case some people haven't heard of it, the Health At Every Size (HAES) approach reflects the opinion that weight and BMI are not indicators of health. These advocates argue that weight is not a choice. All in the name of science!  Yowza


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