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Well we don’t even know for sure that there are two types, it could just be weird cubes.
I’ve got second generation prints from wild cubes and seen plenty of people do grows from wild prints so I don’t think that’s it. So far my best results have been with lower amounts of spawn, I’ve got jars colonizing now so I can test it again and see.
I’ve said it a bunch of times but the fact that natalensis myc has gotten through the liner everytime blows my mind and is one of the main things convincing me it’s not cube. Or at least not a normal one.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
#26988368 - 10/16/20 12:36 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Well we don’t even know for sure that there are two types, it could just be weird cubes.
I’ve got second generation prints from wild cubes and seen plenty of people do grows from wild prints so I don’t think that’s it. So far my best results have been with lower amounts of spawn, I’ve got jars colonizing now so I can test it again and see.
I’ve said it a bunch of times but the fact that natalensis myc has gotten through the liner everytime blows my mind and is one of the main things convincing me it’s not cube. Or at least not a normal one.

That really is so fucking cool tbh.
Are you growing both "psilocybe natalensis" and "psilocybe cubensis Natal Super Strength"?
If not, it seems like you are saying that what you have is supposedly labeled as Natalensis.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: karri0n]
#26988393 - 10/16/20 12:47 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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If there are two types I believe I’ve got natalensis and not a cube. I’ve run like 8 tubs now and not had one normal one.
These two were my closest to normal, low spawn and one was manure.

The rest take forever and turn to rubbery blocks before pinning on the bottoms usually.

The myc is like 1/3” thick on most of those.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
#26988577 - 10/16/20 02:30 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've had them turn out all different shapes and sizes using the same MS but different cultures on straight coir.




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This is my Natalensis on a substrate of straw, horse manure, and coir verm.
Seems to like it ok. I’m hoping it doesn’t contaminate so we can see what fruits look like from this mix.
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I’m curious too. It’s only a couple mushrooms and my natalensis grows have all been garbage so it’s not saying much, but the manure sub I did had the healthiest looking fruits.

Nice color, straight stems that aren’t split open, good spore production. Much better than the usual gnarled blown open mushrooms on all my coir tubs.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
#26992170 - 10/19/20 12:00 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I did a test run of some natty.
They seem to have potency similar to penis envy.
I recommend 1.5 dried grams as a starting point.
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PsiloPsychIn said: This is my Natalensis on a substrate of straw, horse manure, and coir verm.
Seems to like it ok. I’m hoping it doesn’t contaminate so we can see what fruits look like from this mix.

That's the mix I was gonna try. Has anyone tried casing them like pans yet?
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Wall.E]
#26992434 - 10/19/20 07:51 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Seems these things do well outdoors. Chucked my contaminated substrate in a wooden crate with compost and got a few fruits.



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Been getting some crazy fruits over here, pictured is my small Natalensis container fruiting and my Natalensis shoebox fruiting (couple pictures of first flush, then it molded so i cut it in half and flipped it over to flush a second time which it did as you can see!)
 The small container which was cased had no side pinning and had much better surface conditions in general so my consensus so far is that natalensis should be cased with a healthy thick layer of wet verm. This way it will fruit without having to first grow a bunch of growths that end up needing to be removed for it to fruit properly. I think doing that to my shoebox is what compromised it and ultimately made it mold
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Those are awesome I love that cluster.
Ikhowe did the outdoor ones look anything like the indoor ones??
This plate is way tamer and fruited much quicker than my usual natal plates, that’s a good sign.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
#26994285 - 10/20/20 10:30 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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These genetics came from a user here. Ton of overlay but fruiting none the less. I work a ton so they get neglected a bit unfortunately, since I put stuff away while not home.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Arch3type]
#26994296 - 10/20/20 10:43 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Damn, that's wild lookin. Its like a psychedelic bubble bath
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: One of Us]
#26994318 - 10/20/20 10:54 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lmao definitely. It was a clone from one of the pins that popped up on the agar. Took 17 days for pins to be visible in the tub. Today is day 20. 2 quarts spawn to just Coco coir, verm, gypsum
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Arch3type]
#26994381 - 10/20/20 11:33 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Did you try to do anything about the overlay? Has anyone had success in taming it?
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Wall.E]
#26994404 - 10/20/20 11:45 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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It seems to be unavoidable if you’ve got the type that wants to do it. Using way less spawn is the only thing that’s seemed to help for me and that was only one run so I don’t even know if that was why.
Archetypes looks great to me, tons of pins and the myc is healthy looking even though it’s over layed. Mine tends to bruise and get nasty looking.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
#26994419 - 10/20/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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So far my plan for my next tub is going to be using a minimal amount of spawn to keep nutrition down and then casing with a half inch layer of wet verm. I’ll update as soon as I make the bin. The spawn should be ready any day now. ALSO I have 8-10 spore swabs of natalensis for the agar folks and 3 or 4 standard prints I can spare, and will have more soon! Anybody lurking this thread that’s confident they’ll make good use of the print or swab should PM me, i’ll mail them in an envelope no charge.
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Honestly I had no idea these had a tendency to overlay so I just did everything as normal.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Arch3type]
#26995119 - 10/20/20 06:27 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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These genetics came from a user here. Ton of overlay but fruiting none the less. I work a ton so they get neglected a bit unfortunately, since I put stuff away while not home.
Like aka said it looks healthy despite all the overlay. You could probably get 5-6 good flushes off of that if you keep dunking it.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a] 1
#26995618 - 10/21/20 01:41 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Outdoor fruits were much denser, almost rubbery like texture and thicker solid stipes. Weird gill attachment seemed a bit more prominent than any of my previous fruit.



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