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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: NattyOrNice]
#28595447 - 12/23/23 03:46 PM (1 month, 5 days ago) |
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Do nats feel the same in tea form as just eating the shrooms? I’m wondering if the actives found in nats that aren’t as present in cubes handle boiling water just as well, are just as water soluble, etc.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: NattyOrNice] 2
#28595542 - 12/23/23 05:15 PM (1 month, 5 days ago) |
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Took 5.5g of nats last night. At 40 minutes after consuming I barely felt them and decided to have a cig to boost whatever the trip would be. Within 5 minutes I was on my way to tripping balls. Watched Everything, Everywhere, All at Once. By the end of the movie I barely knew where I was or who I was. Comedown lasted another hour or 2, 4 hours of tripping state. Glad the natty boys delivered this time, about a month ago a 5g trip on them felt like 2g on cubes, and I almost always fast before tripping to get the strongest experience.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: Lemgrub]
#28595546 - 12/23/23 05:21 PM (1 month, 5 days ago) |
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Lemgrub said: Took 5.5g of nats last night. At 40 minutes after consuming I barely felt them and decided to have a cig to boost whatever the trip would be. Within 5 minutes I was on my way to tripping balls. Watched Everything, Everywhere, All at Once. By the end of the movie I barely knew where I was or who I was. Comedown lasted another hour or 2, 4 hours of tripping state. Glad the natty boys delivered this time, about a month ago a 5g trip on them felt like 2g on cubes, and I almost always fast before tripping to get the strongest experience.
Damn don't know how some of you do it, you must have some tolerance. I eat 2g of my Nats and I'm good to go.
Then again, I do have a friend that has high tolerance also. I about died last week when he told me he ate 7g of my Nats and 7G of Hillbilly together and said it was a nice trip.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: RockinRobot]
#28595625 - 12/23/23 06:11 PM (1 month, 5 days ago) |
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Lemgrub said: Took 5.5g of nats last night. At 40 minutes after consuming I barely felt them and decided to have a cig to boost whatever the trip would be. Within 5 minutes I was on my way to tripping balls. Watched Everything, Everywhere, All at Once. By the end of the movie I barely knew where I was or who I was. Comedown lasted another hour or 2, 4 hours of tripping state. Glad the natty boys delivered this time, about a month ago a 5g trip on them felt like 2g on cubes, and I almost always fast before tripping to get the strongest experience.
Damn don't know how some of you do it, you must have some tolerance. I eat 2g of my Nats and I'm good to go.
Then again, I do have a friend that has high tolerance also. I about died last week when he told me he ate 7g of my Nats and 7G of Hillbilly together and said it was a nice trip.
I’ve heard they vary in potency a lot too. Probably going to do a miraculix test on my first batch to just know and be able to dose accordingly.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: NattyOrNice] 1
#28595651 - 12/23/23 06:38 PM (1 month, 5 days ago) |
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MycoSnailCarl said: Do nats feel the same in tea form as just eating the shrooms? I’m wondering if the actives found in nats that aren’t as present in cubes handle boiling water just as well, are just as water soluble, etc.
What actives found in nats? Not present in cubes??
I don’t know this to be true, but given that 1.) there are multiple actives in psychedelic mushrooms, not just psilocybin and 2.) nats tend to give different effects than shrooms, I would guess that the differences in effects are due to different amounts of the other actives. Can’t think of another reason that nats would feel warmer/clearer/whatever than cubes.
Edit: and again my real question is: if any of you have taken nats both as dried fruit and as tea, did you find any difference in the experience (beyond the tea kicking in faster of course)?
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: MycoSnailCarl]
#28596242 - 12/24/23 07:34 AM (1 month, 4 days ago) |
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MycoSnailCarl said: Do nats feel the same in tea form as just eating the shrooms? I’m wondering if the actives found in nats that aren’t as present in cubes handle boiling water just as well, are just as water soluble, etc.
What actives found in nats? Not present in cubes??
I don’t know this to be true, but given that 1.) there are multiple actives in psychedelic mushrooms, not just psilocybin and 2.) nats tend to give different effects than shrooms, I would guess that the differences in effects are due to different amounts of the other actives. Can’t think of another reason that nats would feel warmer/clearer/whatever than cubes.
Edit: and again my real question is: if any of you have taken nats both as dried fruit and as tea, did you find any difference in the experience (beyond the tea kicking in faster of course)?
No difference for me. Other than the fact I tend to get sick more often with tea. Can't deal with liquid in stomach on shrooms
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: NattyOrNice]
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Edit: and again my real question is: if any of you have taken nats both as dried fruit and as tea, did you find any difference in the experience (beyond the tea kicking in faster of course)?
No difference for me. Other than the fact I tend to get sick more often with tea. Can't deal with liquid in stomach on shrooms
For me it's the exact opposite, I suppose for both of us we could both start with a lesser amount and let our stomachs achlimate
Quantity doesn't seem to matter. I do 2 grams in chocolate and no issue. 2g in tea and I'm puking my guts up 3o min in to come-up
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: NattyOrNice]
#28596340 - 12/24/23 08:47 AM (1 month, 4 days ago) |
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NattyOrNice said: 2g's isn't starting low.. IMO, how about a tenth of that
I'm not trying to microdose. 1 1/2 g is my minimum for a trip on Nats
Again has nothing to do with dosage for me getting sick. Same dose 2 different methods.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: RockinRobot]
#28596419 - 12/24/23 10:03 AM (1 month, 4 days ago) |
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You ever try to reduce you liquid robot?
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: RockinRobot]
#28596421 - 12/24/23 10:04 AM (1 month, 4 days ago) |
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What actives found in nats? Not present in cubes??
I don’t know this to be true, but given that 1.) there are multiple actives in psychedelic mushrooms, not just psilocybin and 2.) nats tend to give different effects than shrooms, I would guess that the differences in effects are due to different amounts of the other actives. Can’t think of another reason that nats would feel warmer/clearer/whatever than cubes.
Edit: and again my real question is: if any of you have taken nats both as dried fruit and as tea, did you find any difference in the experience (beyond the tea kicking in faster of course)?
No difference for me. Other than the fact I tend to get sick more often with tea. Can't deal with liquid in stomach on shrooms
Odd, usually people don’t get the nausea with tea.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said: You ever try to reduce you liquid robot?
Yea last try was lemon tek in about 1/4 cup tea. Still came up. I just stick to chocolates now.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: RockinRobot]
#28596457 - 12/24/23 10:25 AM (1 month, 4 days ago) |
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I would try boiling it down into a shot.
I did get into an argument on Facebook once about where nausea comes from. I was arguing it's the chitin, but he was convinced it's the alkaloid itself, if not the indole ring.
I'm no chemist lol
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: tryptkaloids]
#28596470 - 12/24/23 10:38 AM (1 month, 4 days ago) |
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tryptkaloids said: I would try boiling it down into a shot.
I did get into an argument on Facebook once about where nausea comes from. I was arguing it's the chitin, but he was convinced it's the alkaloid itself, if not the indole ring.
I'm no chemist lol
There's a guy on the boards who brought up a scientific thing about the nausea and stomach problems being the serotonin overload and why it messes with people causing nausea/ diarrhea and whatnot. I'll try to track it down. He has an actual science-y job as well so is fairly well informed at least seemed so to me lol
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: tryptkaloids]
#28596490 - 12/24/23 11:05 AM (1 month, 4 days ago) |
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tryptkaloids said: I would try boiling it down into a shot.
I did get into an argument on Facebook once about where nausea comes from. I was arguing it's the chitin, but he was convinced it's the alkaloid itself, if not the indole ring.
I'm no chemist lol
I went through this same argument with someone when I was extracting cacti. I went so far as to isolate each alkaloid in the cacti and determined one made me feel sleepy/15min dreamy trip, one gave me muscle tremors (VERY unpleasant) and the pure mescaline made me nauseous the same way cacti tea does.
Long story short, any hallucinogen makes me nauseous. Mescaline, psilocybin, LSD. A lot of people have that issue. However, I think some other people get nauseous simply from sensitivity to the fats, waxes, etc. which is why we can’t ever come to a consensus on what causes the nausea.
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#28596496 - 12/24/23 11:14 AM (1 month, 4 days ago) |
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I ate 8g dried some days ago. Never again. At least I realized what is important in life
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