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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: Pyr]
#28548966 - 11/19/23 09:46 AM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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You need to clone that and grow it like "Enigma" or one of the other mutants. You already picked out a name.
This sounds like a fun project to make the most out of sub-optimal genetics. I took a few clones from the healthier looking areas today, will be interesting to see how this behaves on agar.
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I think you should call it "Iceberg".
I do like Iceberg! It takes a while longer than fruits, but it still bruises up with an interesting pattern that fits the name.

Next time I'll probably "fruit" in a tray instead of a shoebox so I can just slice the top off rather than pull chunks out. BE is an interesting question, unfortunately I didn't really take notes when spawning these tubs but I'll keep track next time and post the results.
I live in a land of glaciers and icebergs - those do indeed look like chunks of old ice š
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: PsiloPsychIn]
#28549145 - 11/19/23 12:47 PM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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That overlay is crazy. I hope it can be stabilized.
I just harvested my first nats ever, and the tub had overlay... But when I picked the fruit I saw the overlay was really just paper-thin. Weird stuff.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: Pyr]
#28549171 - 11/19/23 01:10 PM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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that looks amazing and very clean. my tumor tub was similar looking tissue, but pocketed with metabolites. i made tea from the tumors on friday and shared with friends. it was a lot stronger than we expected so the night ended up like this

hope your bergs are similarly potent. what was your spawn setup? ratio, tub size, tub mods, etc?
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: NotFromGeorgia]
#28549822 - 11/20/23 05:12 AM (2 months, 7 days ago) |
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Had a second flush of pnat, they smell so good dehydrating.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: huey.bluey]
#28549826 - 11/20/23 05:18 AM (2 months, 7 days ago) |
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I used to agree, thought they smelled.and tasted like horlics.
But that passed very fast fast and the smell of horlicks faded into 
Now I make tea with just enough water to allow me to take my mush as a chaser. Just knock it back and swallow, I find cold with lemon to way more palatable.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: DERRAYLD]
#28549828 - 11/20/23 05:21 AM (2 months, 7 days ago) |
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DERRAYLD said: I used to agree, thought they smelled.and tasted like horlics.
But that passed very fast fast and the smell of horlicks faded into 
Now I make tea with just enough water to allow me to take my mush as a chaser. Just knock it back and swallow, I find cold with lemon to way more palatable.
Like mine in chocolate. Never liked the taste of mush. I add a little cannabis infused MCT oil as well, for every 7g mush I use 14ml MCT oil. Helps the mush mix with the chocolate.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: RockinRobot]
#28549841 - 11/20/23 05:46 AM (2 months, 7 days ago) |
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love mush taste. taste like rye berries evolved into a higher life form. I like eating mine straight up no water.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: huey.bluey] 6
#28549846 - 11/20/23 05:56 AM (2 months, 7 days ago) |
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Iāve got a mate that eats shrooms like trail mix, just casually munching them through the day, wouldnāt even know heād had them except for his eyes, I just keep giving them to him out of some kind of morbid curiosity/fascination. Just realised this might make me a bad friend.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: 3.A.M] 7
#28549942 - 11/20/23 08:23 AM (2 months, 7 days ago) |
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2nd flush
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: DERRAYLD] 2
#28550091 - 11/20/23 10:34 AM (2 months, 7 days ago) |
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Day 10

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What is everyone doing as for dosage on this strain? Iām wanting to microdose with them to check them out but donāt want to go on a ride.
Thinking Iāll start with .15-.25g
What do you all think?
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: TheAtlantean] 1
#28550150 - 11/20/23 11:15 AM (2 months, 7 days ago) |
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Sounds like a good starting point.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: TheAtlantean]
#28550221 - 11/20/23 12:15 PM (2 months, 7 days ago) |
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TheAtlantean said: What is everyone doing as for dosage on this strain? Iām wanting to microdose with them to check them out but donāt want to go on a ride.
Thinking Iāll start with .15-.25g
What do you all think?
My wife microdoses 400mg of nat. I doubt 250mg would provide much benefit.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: San Pedro Girl] 2
#28550278 - 11/20/23 12:58 PM (2 months, 7 days ago) |
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Man .4 would be way too much for me as a micro. Even .2 of some batches of cubes was surprisingly noticeable.
Iām pretty sensitive to them but Iād stick with .1 or .15.
Some of the nats Iāve had were potent enough that a gram was a full on trip kinda like PE.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: A.k.a] 1
#28550281 - 11/20/23 01:03 PM (2 months, 7 days ago) |
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A.k.a said: Man .4 would be way too much for me as a micro. Even .2 of some batches of cubes was surprisingly noticeable.
Iām pretty sensitive to them but Iād stick with .1 or .15.
Some of the nats Iāve had were potent enough that a gram was a full on trip kinda like PE.
Agreed. The Leu. PE revert over grown for the last several years has been potent enough that .3 is enough for me to want to lay down.
We started with .15 about 30 min ago.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: TheAtlantean] 5
#28550312 - 11/20/23 01:23 PM (2 months, 7 days ago) |
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I would definitely feel 0.2 grams. 2nd flush.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: A.k.a]
#28550409 - 11/20/23 02:40 PM (2 months, 7 days ago) |
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A.k.a said: Man .4 would be way too much for me as a micro. Even .2 of some batches of cubes was surprisingly noticeable.
Iām pretty sensitive to them but Iād stick with .1 or .15.
Some of the nats Iāve had were potent enough that a gram was a full on trip kinda like PE.
If thereās no noticable effects, then thereās no reason to take anything. Itās should be noticeable to be an effective microdose. Doses of chemicals which cause no effect are better replaced by water or other placebos.š but everyoneās different and dosages vary.š
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: San Pedro Girl] 3
#28550436 - 11/20/23 03:03 PM (2 months, 7 days ago) |
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A.k.a said: Man .4 would be way too much for me as a micro. Even .2 of some batches of cubes was surprisingly noticeable.
Iām pretty sensitive to them but Iād stick with .1 or .15.
Some of the nats Iāve had were potent enough that a gram was a full on trip kinda like PE.
If thereās no noticable effects, then thereās no reason to take anything. Itās should be noticeable to be an effective microdose. Doses of chemicals which cause no effect are better replaced by water or other placebos.š but everyoneās different and dosages vary.š
Thanks for that. This is why asking for dosage on the internet is dangerous. And not to be rude but not all of us want to feel something in that way.
Iām glad I went with my intuition on this one because Quite literally the point of a microdose is to be sub perceptual. Anything beyond that is considered a dose/macro dose.
Some of us are considerably more sensitive than others. My wife and I took .15 and holy wowza anything beyond would have called for us to lay down till the waves passed.
The point of taking them is to create new neuronal pathways for the brain to more cohesively perceive its environments. .4 would have derailed the working day. .15 was enough to boost the mood and give us a bit of energy.
Trusting the medicine to work internally with/without conscious interaction is the point. The are so many benefits to microdosing that it would be hard to list them all here without getting into a whole big conversation about dosages and relativistic experiences based upon those dosages.
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: TheAtlantean] 2
#28550646 - 11/20/23 06:04 PM (2 months, 7 days ago) |
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A.k.a said: Man .4 would be way too much for me as a micro. Even .2 of some batches of cubes was surprisingly noticeable.
Iām pretty sensitive to them but Iād stick with .1 or .15.
Some of the nats Iāve had were potent enough that a gram was a full on trip kinda like PE.
If thereās no noticable effects, then thereās no reason to take anything. Itās should be noticeable to be an effective microdose. Doses of chemicals which cause no effect are better replaced by water or other placebos.š but everyoneās different and dosages vary.š
Thanks for that. This is why asking for dosage on the internet is dangerous. And not to be rude but not all of us want to feel something in that way.
Iām glad I went with my intuition on this one because Quite literally the point of a microdose is to be sub perceptual. Anything beyond that is considered a dose/macro dose.
Some of us are considerably more sensitive than others. My wife and I took .15 and holy wowza anything beyond would have called for us to lay down till the waves passed.
The point of taking them is to create new neuronal pathways for the brain to more cohesively perceive its environments. .4 would have derailed the working day. .15 was enough to boost the mood and give us a bit of energy.
Trusting the medicine to work internally with/without conscious interaction is the point. The are so many benefits to microdosing that it would be hard to list them all here without getting into a whole big conversation about dosages and relativistic experiences based upon those dosages.
I completely understand what your intention is, but I also completely disagree with your thoughts on the subject. My wife has had MS for over 20 years any thatās the only reason we grow mushrooms. The majority of the reputable scientific studies show that macro dosing is the most beneficial path to neuroregeneration. Most studies show conclusively that any microdose, as you define microdose, is simply a placebo.
Her results over the last couple years have mirrored the studies. However, everyone is different and scientific studies arenāt the end of it. Thereās plenty of anecdotal stuff thatās relevant, but hasnāt gained enough attention/funding for legitimate studies.
Anyway, Iām not trying to start a giant debate, but definitely want to put my experience out there since this is the aspect Iām most passionate about. Good luck to you and please PM me if you need anything at all!
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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis thread [Re: San Pedro Girl] 3
#28550710 - 11/20/23 06:56 PM (2 months, 7 days ago) |
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I would love to see these studies and read them. The microdosing studies. Feel free to post them here or send them to me in a DM
To completely disagree is your prerogative. and of course the major regenerative effects are mainly found in larger doses. Do you feel like itās the psilocybin thatās helping her with her MS? Or could it be the entourage effect?
I would think that Placebos would be inert by definition. So simply stating that smaller microās are placebos disregards the actual science and that, in fact, by definition, are not placebos because they are not inert. They have actives in them, silly š
If your wife has MS and gets benefits from the larger .4ish and above, then more power and healing to her. I 100% support that.
But ⦠thatās still not a microdose by any standard.
Cheers to mushrooms š
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