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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: JW123] * 8
    #28508002 - 10/17/23 11:08 AM (3 months, 10 days ago)

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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Kinoko314]
    #28508293 - 10/17/23 03:02 PM (3 months, 10 days ago)

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I've been getting impatient since I've gotten a nats print, so these two shoeboxes are from 2 different germ plates.  They were both similar in that they started from a visible speck of spores.  Both tubs have the exact same amount of total coir and spawn.  One had a half quart of coir set aside for a pseudo-casing.  I thought people were getting better results without a top layer, but so far it's the opposite for me.




I did a third germ plate where I took a sterile swab and rubbed it on the print, and then streaked the plate.  I took 4 transfers from that one to test out different genetics.  The T3s went to grain, and should be ready to spawn in a few more days.  I've continued to transfer, but the T3s looked pretty good, so I sent it.





It seems to be pretty culture dependent. Some of mine that had a lot of overlay seemed to get worse with a top layer but then others didnโ€™t care at all.

But using spore cultures, especially from two different plates, youโ€™re gonna have two random sets of genetics so they canโ€™t really be compared.


Looks like theyโ€™re doing well though especially the top layer one.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
    #28510448 - 10/19/23 12:08 PM (3 months, 8 days ago)

As much as I'm following this thread and reading pros about Nats, the more I would love to try growing some. Anyone from Europe willing to share a spore print from their good crops? I also have some Pans TTBVI prints for exchange.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: the_prodigy]
    #28510694 - 10/19/23 03:07 PM (3 months, 8 days ago)

Natalensis seems to be small compared to other strains. Working on my first flush with a buttload of pins at first, but not much bluk to them. Possibly why they are considered a super strain?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
    #28510737 - 10/19/23 03:42 PM (3 months, 8 days ago)

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How common is it to get a natalensis culture that just wont pin? Ive went back to spore 2 times and always the same result. Id like even a single tiny fruit just to clone.

From what Ive seen it doesnt seem like it should be this difficult. I had gotten overlay but realized with no top layer/pseudo casing I got no overlay. But still no fruits.



Are you saying that you have no overlay this time from using a pseudo-casing, but it's still not pinning?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: KuroKitsune]
    #28510762 - 10/19/23 04:09 PM (3 months, 8 days ago)

Yup, exactly.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
    #28510782 - 10/19/23 04:28 PM (3 months, 8 days ago)

my nat culture does not care about pseudo casing at all, it overlays all the same. no top, bottom, or side pins. just bricks of clouds.


tomorrow marks 5 weeks. might start antagonizing the tubs to see what happens. pulling the overlay for tea, forking, flipping cakes, dunking, excessive fae, and crying are on the menu.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
    #28510790 - 10/19/23 04:41 PM (3 months, 8 days ago)

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Yup, exactly.



Hmm. What's your setup/tub like and spawn:sub ratio?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: KuroKitsune] * 1
    #28510811 - 10/19/23 05:01 PM (3 months, 8 days ago)

Ratio is 1:3, inside shoebox with lid on loose. Kind of sitting on top unlocked.



Not nats but an example of my tub/lid


Edited by AspectOfTheCreator (10/19/23 05:03 PM)


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: NotFromGeorgia] * 2
    #28511056 - 10/19/23 08:20 PM (3 months, 8 days ago)

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my nat culture does not care about pseudo casing at all, it overlays all the same. no top, bottom, or side pins. just bricks of clouds.


tomorrow marks 5 weeks. might start antagonizing the tubs to see what happens. pulling the overlay for tea, forking, flipping cakes, dunking, excessive fae, and crying are on the menu.



Holy fluff batman!
Can we get a pic of the surface?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: cozmyc] * 1
    #28511154 - 10/19/23 10:24 PM (3 months, 8 days ago)

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NotFromGeorgia said:, and crying are on the menu.




:mornin:

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I am Also requesting pics of the surface.

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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: TheAtlantean] * 5
    #28511293 - 10/20/23 12:53 AM (3 months, 7 days ago)

A quick update on my nats PF cakes.  (Sorry if it's a bit boring for some, but it may be of interest to others using PF).

The first flush was smothered by overlay, but still produced about 40g dry.  I spotted pins under the overlay that were unable to make it, so used scissors to trim the cakes back to the verm I rolled them in, dunked them (they were so dry that they nearly doubled in weight - e.g. cake at 94g incresed to 171g after dunking) and put them back in the water tub.
After 10 days I'm going to have to start harvesting flush 2, which has no new overlay and much better looking fruits.


In the meantime, the grain jars are making steady progress so should be ready by the time the PF cakes run out.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: cozmyc] * 3
    #28511580 - 10/20/23 10:29 AM (3 months, 7 days ago)

^ not boring, maybe that'll work with my tub cakes
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Holy fluff batman!
Can we get a pic of the surface?



how about too many pictures? that fluff brick above is tub 2. latest pics were taken this morning, dates are in the file names if the timeline matters

tub 1




tub 2




tub 3




tub 4



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: NotFromGeorgia] * 1
    #28511640 - 10/20/23 11:22 AM (3 months, 7 days ago)

You know what?  You've 4 tubs that have done nothing but produce fluff for 5 weeks.  It's worth the possible sacrifice on one of them.

When I cut all the overlay of my cakes and redunked them, the pins started to appear after about 3 days.  Go for it!
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Janus62] * 1
    #28511688 - 10/20/23 12:05 PM (3 months, 7 days ago)

Tub 3 is at least nice and white.  Nats seem to make a lot of metabolites, and the "tumors" covered in metabolites are really funky.  I don't know if that's a deal breaker though.  One of my shoeboxes has a lot of metabolites, but it did start pushing out a few fruits.

I know some people have ripped off the overlay, but I don't know if it's accepted as a good idea or not.  At some point you might as well try.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Kinoko314] * 2
    #28511808 - 10/20/23 01:28 PM (3 months, 7 days ago)

tub 2 got all forked up because its cake had shrunk the most

the overlay was surprisingly dense, came off the sub easily, looks icky, and smells amazing. the sides were thin fluff and not the same type of dense growth like the top


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
    #28511969 - 10/20/23 03:05 PM (3 months, 7 days ago)

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Ratio is 1:3, inside shoebox with lid on loose. Kind of sitting on top unlocked.



That ratio should be able to work. What are your surface conditions like?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: KuroKitsune] * 1
    #28512052 - 10/20/23 03:59 PM (3 months, 7 days ago)

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Ratio is 1:3, inside shoebox with lid on loose. Kind of sitting on top unlocked.



That ratio should be able to work. What are your surface conditions like?










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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
    #28512084 - 10/20/23 04:25 PM (3 months, 7 days ago)

How long has it been since you spawned those?  The first one looks really good, so I'd be hopeful about that one.  The others don't look quite as good, but not bad.

Are yours staying pretty wet, as in lots of beads of water on the myc, without having to mist it?  My uglier tub was like that for a while, and after I opened up some more FAE and those beads started to evaporate, it started pinning.  If yours are similar, try upping FAE a bit.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: NotFromGeorgia] * 3
    #28512135 - 10/20/23 05:03 PM (3 months, 7 days ago)

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