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A_National_Acrobat
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: JW123]
#28446858 - 08/25/23 09:09 PM (5 months, 1 day ago) |
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JW123 said: No problem. Anybody else in this thread that wants some there are 9 more left.
I could use a print if you still have one available
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ppancho
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Hello so I grew up some Nats. the one that grew in Marta

and one grow in a monotube
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: ppancho]
#28447009 - 08/26/23 04:45 AM (5 months, 18 hours ago) |
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Hey probably a stoopid question, but I got my p.nats and have put onto agar. I assume I grow them similarly to a cube? Same substrate ratios and use of a monotub? I do have a martha tent, but not keen to use it as it's dead in the middle of winter and still have to find a way to insulate it.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: TheGoblin] 2
#28447011 - 08/26/23 04:48 AM (5 months, 18 hours ago) |
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Yuhp just a little more FAE in my experience.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: ppancho] 1
#28447060 - 08/26/23 06:52 AM (5 months, 15 hours ago) |
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You definitely need more fresh air exchange in your monotub. I canβt see any ventilation holes other than perhaps the black thing on the right?
In general, Natalensis thrive in more open air situations. Both adastra and myself have posted some very good looking grows that were in open air. Of course if you live in a very dry area that is not possible.
If you increase ventilation you can grow Natalensis in monotubs that look like your Martha ones. π
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Remember these:

An update. The tub got hit by the heat pretty bad, it's covered with blue slime. The first few mushrooms came up normal. I know sometimes a mutation that carries over often doesn't manifest until the second flush, but I have little hope this will flush again. The mycelium below the surface still looks pretty healthy. It's like the overlay got bacterial. I'm going to try to scrape it off but at this point I'm thinking we will have to wait for the next tub to see if this was genetic or possibly a chemical contamination. It took 4 weeks to pin from spawning .
Edit: ooh post 420
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thirdeyewild said: Remember these:

An update. The tub got hit by the heat pretty bad, it's covered with blue slime. The first few mushrooms came up normal. I know sometimes a mutation that carries over often doesn't manifest until the second flush, but I have little hope this will flush again. The mycelium below the surface still looks pretty healthy. It's like the overlay got bacterial. I'm going to try to scrape it off but at this point I'm thinking we will have to wait for the next tub to see if this was genetic or possibly a chemical contamination. It took 4 weeks to pin from spawning .
Edit: ooh post 420
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Psilo thanks for the suggestion. there are ventilation holes on the box, but they are not very good to see through all the fruits. (if you look at the frontal far side and on the lower left side, you can see an opening covered with a filter). I probably should have made more holes. I got a spot in Martha, so on the second flush I moved it inside. I am very interested in growing in the open air. unfortunately it's not possible now. you're right, I live in a very dry area (the one I tried dried out and when I tried to water it, it rotted for a change). I'm waiting for the autumn season
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: ppancho]
#28451232 - 08/29/23 02:18 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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Last time I was following this thread it had like 8 pages and Grim, AKA, Sock, Crack and others were trying to figure out how to avoid the 2" crazy overgrowth. Seeing recent pictures of yalls work it looks like it's been figured out. Super cool to see!
What's the common nat growing procedure like these days? That much different from other cubes?
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Benson]
#28451340 - 08/29/23 04:24 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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Almost all of my nat mycelium is super fluffy, but a couple plates are starting to rhizo a bit. After looking through the thread it seems like it's preferred to go with the tomentose growth to avoid overlay, but I also saw a lot of comments that it made no difference.
Was there ever a consensus made on tom vs rhizo? Or was it decided that lots of overlay is a genetic predisposition?
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Benson said: Last time I was following this thread it had like 8 pages and Grim, AKA, Sock, Crack and others were trying to figure out how to avoid the 2" crazy overgrowth. Seeing recent pictures of yalls work it looks like it's been figured out. Super cool to see!
What's the common nat growing procedure like these days? That much different from other cubes?
Yup. Same a cubes with maybe a bit more fae once you see pins.
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NotFromGeorgia said: Almost all of my nat mycelium is super fluffy, but a couple plates are starting to rhizo a bit. After looking through the thread it seems like it's preferred to go with the tomentose growth to avoid overlay, but I also saw a lot of comments that it made no difference.
Was there ever a consensus made on tom vs rhizo? Or was it decided that lots of overlay is a genetic predisposition?
It appears to just be a common genetic predisposition. However, there are several people who seem to have isolations that are less likely to overlay. I think that it has been pretty much determined that rhizo versus tomentose is not a good predictor of overlay.
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Iβm totally new to growing mushrooms, but dove in recently. Iβve got pan cyans. Natalensis, and APE growing all right now.
My very first Natalensis is popping up! I was having some issues with them not forming primordia. So on a whim a few days ago I threw some 50/50 peat verm on top, and hot damn if they arenβt working now!
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ReverendMyc said: It appears to just be a common genetic predisposition. However, there are several people who seem to have isolations that are less likely to overlay. I think that it has been pretty much determined that rhizo versus tomentose is not a good predictor of overlay.
Right on, thanks reverend. Wasn't sure what to transfer, guess it'll be both.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Benson] 1
#28451928 - 08/29/23 11:51 PM (4 months, 27 days ago) |
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Benson said: Last time I was following this thread it had like 8 pages and Grim, AKA, Sock, Crack and others were trying to figure out how to avoid the 2" crazy overgrowth. Seeing recent pictures of yalls work it looks like it's been figured out. Super cool to see!
What's the common nat growing procedure like these days? That much different from other cubes?
From the start a few of us had overlay free Nats and we made it clear it was genetic. Just have to go back and search for the right one.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD]
#28452315 - 08/30/23 11:36 AM (4 months, 27 days ago) |
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I took rhizo and no overlay. it has grown through the substrate, but the substrate is still visible in some places
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD]
#28452423 - 08/30/23 01:30 PM (4 months, 27 days ago) |
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DERRAYLD said:
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Benson said: Last time I was following this thread it had like 8 pages and Grim, AKA, Sock, Crack and others were trying to figure out how to avoid the 2" crazy overgrowth. Seeing recent pictures of yalls work it looks like it's been figured out. Super cool to see!
What's the common nat growing procedure like these days? That much different from other cubes?
From the start a few of us had overlay free Nats and we made it clear it was genetic. Just have to go back and search for the right one.
Now that you mention it I do recall some discussion around that.
And ty ReverendMyc for the short and sweet answer!
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thirdeyewild said: Remember these:

An update. The tub got hit by the heat pretty bad, it's covered with blue slime. The first few mushrooms came up normal. I know sometimes a mutation that carries over often doesn't manifest until the second flush, but I have little hope this will flush again. The mycelium below the surface still looks pretty healthy. It's like the overlay got bacterial. I'm going to try to scrape it off but at this point I'm thinking we will have to wait for the next tub to see if this was genetic or possibly a chemical contamination. It took 4 weeks to pin from spawning .
Edit: ooh post 420
Never seen blue slime, that cap just looks like the actives are oxidizing. Turns blue or green & if super fuzzy myc got too wet it would resemble slime, could that be the case with yours?
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: rizingfire] 4
#28452433 - 08/30/23 01:43 PM (4 months, 27 days ago) |
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Fkn love Nats, got a white 1 I'm currently cloning & Murderlabz just crossed a gwm with a nat using Workman's method, so will have those soon too to show.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: rizingfire] 3
#28452436 - 08/30/23 01:46 PM (4 months, 27 days ago) |
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Here is the new GWMN hybrid
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: rizingfire]
#28452438 - 08/30/23 01:47 PM (4 months, 27 days ago) |
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Obviously it still requires lots of work, stabilization, etc but figured I'd post here early to avoid the stupid nonsense that happened with iso b
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