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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Fridgedoor] * 2
    #28408999 - 07/26/23 10:36 AM (6 months, 11 hours ago)

I prefer longer gradual trips instead of quick intense ones from tea.


My method now is grinding and making caps. I eat a decent amount and then take 1/3 of my dose, then another 1/3 twenty mins later, and the final portion about half an hour after that.


Back in the day I would put the whole shrooms on a huge burger and it was perfect, but I’m too much of a baby about the taste these days. The food and staggered caps method produces a similar result for me.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
    #28409109 - 07/26/23 01:05 PM (6 months, 8 hours ago)

Thanks, Fridgedoor.  I'll give that a try.  Did you also feel nats are kind of harsh on the come up?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Paramycologist]
    #28409119 - 07/26/23 01:18 PM (6 months, 8 hours ago)

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Thanks, Fridgedoor.  I'll give that a try.  Did you also feel nats are kind of harsh on the come up?



I used to have a particular strong Nat culture that got quite challenging on the comeup whenever I just chugged the tea. That's when I decided to experiment a bit and drinking it slowly really helped a lot.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Paramycologist]
    #28409180 - 07/26/23 02:40 PM (6 months, 7 hours ago)

Alright, so I decided to be extra cautious and take a mini-dose of my nats. I often take half a gram of cubes for some gentle effects and shift in perspective and I'm also pretty sensitive to shrooms.
Accounting for the higher potency I took only 0.2 grams to dip my toes in and see if those guys are friendly.

Hmmm, not so sure!
I noticed effects like dizziness and feeling heavy, similar to cubes. But then there was the feeling of being sick or intoxicated which I never had on cubes. Stomach felt uneasy, and I got into a really bad and grumpy mood. Like having a hangover without the drinking part.
It subsided gradually and after about two or three hours my mood was back to normal. Now I'm not sure if I should go for more as my body and brain chemistry doesn't agree.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: rocky_raccoon]
    #28410172 - 07/27/23 10:29 AM (5 months, 30 days ago)

Give it another shot in a few days and see if you have the same experience.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: rocky_raccoon]
    #28412186 - 07/29/23 12:01 AM (5 months, 28 days ago)

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rocky_raccoon said:
Alright, so I decided to be extra cautious and take a mini-dose of my nats. I often take half a gram of cubes for some gentle effects and shift in perspective and I'm also pretty sensitive to shrooms.
Accounting for the higher potency I took only 0.2 grams to dip my toes in and see if those guys are friendly.

Hmmm, not so sure!
I noticed effects like dizziness and feeling heavy, similar to cubes. But then there was the feeling of being sick or intoxicated which I never had on cubes. Stomach felt uneasy, and I got into a really bad and grumpy mood. Like having a hangover without the drinking part.
It subsided gradually and after about two or three hours my mood was back to normal. Now I'm not sure if I should go for more as my body and brain chemistry doesn't agree.





My question would be- did you actually dry your shrooms out completely? 
And not when you "think" they're cracker dry.  When they actually are.  This is a huge problem with new growers.
This sounds like what happens when they aren't.  Nats on a microdose wouldn't feel like that.  Mushrooms not completely dried out would.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Mycelium Juice]
    #28412267 - 07/29/23 02:20 AM (5 months, 28 days ago)

They were in the process of drying, air dried but not cracker dry yet. Later I finished them off in a desiccant chamber, as I always do. But why would this make such a difference? They didn't have time to decompose or anything.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: rocky_raccoon] * 3
    #28412471 - 07/29/23 07:22 AM (5 months, 28 days ago)

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rocky_raccoon said:
Alright, so I decided to be extra cautious and take a mini-dose of my nats. I often take half a gram of cubes for some gentle effects and shift in perspective and I'm also pretty sensitive to shrooms.
Accounting for the higher potency I took only 0.2 grams to dip my toes in and see if those guys are friendly.

Hmmm, not so sure!
I noticed effects like dizziness and feeling heavy, similar to cubes. But then there was the feeling of being sick or intoxicated which I never had on cubes. Stomach felt uneasy, and I got into a really bad and grumpy mood. Like having a hangover without the drinking part.
It subsided gradually and after about two or three hours my mood was back to normal. Now I'm not sure if I should go for more as my body and brain chemistry doesn't agree.




.2g is only a little over a micro-dose with Nats. I wouldn't go less than 1g if I was looking to actually trip. I did 1/2g a few days ago and barely got off the ground but a full gram and I get a nice trip. For me taking too little makes for a bad trip.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: RockinRobot] * 1
    #28412709 - 07/29/23 10:48 AM (5 months, 28 days ago)

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Quote:

rocky_raccoon said:
Alright, so I decided to be extra cautious and take a mini-dose of my nats. I often take half a gram of cubes for some gentle effects and shift in perspective and I'm also pretty sensitive to shrooms.
Accounting for the higher potency I took only 0.2 grams to dip my toes in and see if those guys are friendly.

Hmmm, not so sure!
I noticed effects like dizziness and feeling heavy, similar to cubes. But then there was the feeling of being sick or intoxicated which I never had on cubes. Stomach felt uneasy, and I got into a really bad and grumpy mood. Like having a hangover without the drinking part.
It subsided gradually and after about two or three hours my mood was back to normal. Now I'm not sure if I should go for more as my body and brain chemistry doesn't agree.




.2g is only a little over a micro-dose with Nats. I wouldn't go less than 1g if I was looking to actually trip. I did 1/2g a few days ago and barely got off the ground but a full gram and I get a nice trip. For me taking too little makes for a bad trip.




I agree with this. If your ego is still too much in control it becomes angry in a way. It needs a good slap to step into the background.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Telomere] * 1
    #28413149 - 07/29/23 07:05 PM (5 months, 28 days ago)

Hello,
This is my first time growing nats. My S2B was 5 days ago. I want to go in holiday in a few weeks. But I want to wait until I got minimum 2 flushes, maybe 3.
How many weeks do I have to wait ?
Thanks in advantage


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Telomere]
    #28413426 - 07/30/23 12:54 AM (5 months, 27 days ago)

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RockinRobot said:
Quote:

rocky_raccoon said:
Alright, so I decided to be extra cautious and take a mini-dose of my nats. I often take half a gram of cubes for some gentle effects and shift in perspective and I'm also pretty sensitive to shrooms.
Accounting for the higher potency I took only 0.2 grams to dip my toes in and see if those guys are friendly.

Hmmm, not so sure!
I noticed effects like dizziness and feeling heavy, similar to cubes. But then there was the feeling of being sick or intoxicated which I never had on cubes. Stomach felt uneasy, and I got into a really bad and grumpy mood. Like having a hangover without the drinking part.
It subsided gradually and after about two or three hours my mood was back to normal. Now I'm not sure if I should go for more as my body and brain chemistry doesn't agree.




.2g is only a little over a micro-dose with Nats. I wouldn't go less than 1g if I was looking to actually trip. I did 1/2g a few days ago and barely got off the ground but a full gram and I get a nice trip. For me taking too little makes for a bad trip.




I agree with this. If your ego is still too much in control it becomes angry in a way. It needs a good slap to step into the background.




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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Pancyan2023lve] * 1
    #28413427 - 07/30/23 12:55 AM (5 months, 27 days ago)

Hopefully no one answers you.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #28413444 - 07/30/23 01:41 AM (5 months, 27 days ago)

Lol is it a multi or something?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #28413475 - 07/30/23 03:12 AM (5 months, 27 days ago)

Why do you say that?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Pancyan2023lve] * 1
    #28413491 - 07/30/23 04:10 AM (5 months, 27 days ago)

I would think it's fairly self explanatory.
Not sure why you'd come here to ask questions like this with a single post.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #28413493 - 07/30/23 04:16 AM (5 months, 27 days ago)

Dude what’s your fucking problem? I have never used this acc, I only created this account for asking JakeonCid some questions about his JoC Martha pan 3.0 post.
In general I grow pans. Sooo again….
Can somebody tell me how long? I want to plan my vacation that’s it


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Pancyan2023lve] * 2
    #28413499 - 07/30/23 04:37 AM (5 months, 27 days ago)

Truthfully how can anyone give you a real idea? First harvest maybe at 3 weeks? 2nd and 3rd who tf knows? 1.5 to 2 months?  Maybe more maybe less.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Screwup]
    #28413505 - 07/30/23 04:44 AM (5 months, 27 days ago)

Ok thanks that gives me an idea. I got a spore syringe a few weeks ago and I injected 1-2ml to an LC septum bottle ( I know first agar than LC is better but I did not have agar at this moment). I got very very rhizomorphic mycelium. Grain jars colonized in 9-10 days, S2B was maybe 7 days and now since 5 days in my Martha tent. No visual changes( thank god no overlay), but I can’t see signs of primordia. I did not know that nats are much slower in pinning. But how I said, I only have experiences with  pans and therefore I have no feeling for how long β€œnormal mushrooms” like nats/Tampas/cubes need for fruiting.. but I wanted to try some else like some APEs, Tampas, zapotecorum, subtropicalis. I have to be more patient I think
thanks for your answer, maybe I have to cancel my vacation :frown:


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Pancyan2023lve]
    #28413511 - 07/30/23 04:51 AM (5 months, 27 days ago)

Btw I said 3 weeks meaning from the first day you S2B incase that wasn’t clear


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Screwup]
    #28413541 - 07/30/23 06:06 AM (5 months, 27 days ago)

Thanks a lot


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