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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: SnowDaze] 2
#28289671 - 04/22/23 10:34 AM (9 months, 2 days ago) |
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My wife and her friend are going to trip tomorrow. They are both experienced trippers. My guess is they want to head to about a level 3 trip. I’m planning on giving them Natalensis. Any dose recommendations? Are these “happy trips”? (I know each trip is unique). I’ve been growing these Nats for years but have never eaten any. PsiloPsychIn
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Bigworm



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IME all Nat trips have been happy and energetic after an initial relaxation that makes me tired for a bit. For me a level 3 on nats I would probably need 4-4.5g dry. Others I've shared with are comfortable at 2-3g. Just my experience with them.
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MojaveMyc
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Bigworm] 2
#28289714 - 04/22/23 11:17 AM (9 months, 2 days ago) |
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1.5-2g gets me to ~lvl 3 but I’m on the sensitive side. Nats are mad gentle so I feel it would be hard to over-do it
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: MojaveMyc] 1
#28289764 - 04/22/23 12:01 PM (9 months, 2 days ago) |
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Birthed my first Nat tub today. 3 pints of grain to a 27qt. mono. I eyeballed the sub(CV), it's probably between 1:3 and 1:4. Nothing special. I just wanna try these!
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: KeyMaker] 1
#28290745 - 04/23/23 01:07 AM (9 months, 1 day ago) |
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Even when you refuse to send a non pinning plate to grain, nats are still crazy. Out of my 22 plates, about 1/3 started overlaying after full colonization. Another 1/3 grew straight up the sides and turned so blue I thought I had contamination. The last 1/3 are finally knotting up. I really hope I get some good clone grows off these plate pins after the time and effort involved!
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: machinym]
#28291218 - 04/23/23 10:17 AM (9 months, 1 day ago) |
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Quote:
machinym said: Anyone experience this bluing with NSS?
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28289757
You just replied to my post saying I had the same thing!😜
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karri0n
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For natalensis, do we allow the myc on agar to be crazy aerial, or have sectors with rhizo and tom, or otherwise be non uniform, without assuming it's contaminated?
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: karri0n] 2
#28292062 - 04/23/23 07:08 PM (9 months, 1 day ago) |
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For me, if it is clean, run it!
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Yeah prob 70% of my natal cultures have been wild on plates. Once in a while I get a normal looking one but usually it’s climbing the lid or something. Definitely normal and should be good to go.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a] 3
#28292312 - 04/24/23 12:33 AM (9 months, 22 hours ago) |
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Thanks for the advice on the Nat dose Bigworm and Mojave myc.
They had a good trip with 3 grams (Friend) But my wife had 4 grams but an hour in her friend was tripping pretty hard and she wasn’t feeling much so I gave her 1.5 grams of Panaeolus Cambodginiensis and in an hour she was going hard. The difference is she’s been on SSRIs for decades and had only taken a two day break so she needed an extra push
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Damn, 1.5g of pan cambos plus 4g of nats. That sounds like a super cocktail of fun! Yeah, from what I've seen on here SSRIs will boost your tolerance. Hopefully it was a good experience for them both.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Bigworm] 3
#28292691 - 04/24/23 09:58 AM (9 months, 13 hours ago) |
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My bags have all stopped dead. They were fast to colonise, then... nothing. Probably caught some bacteria.

Ah well, I'll leave them be and see what happens.
I'm getting tons of plate pins, but no actual pins.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Marcus666]
#28293101 - 04/24/23 02:29 PM (9 months, 8 hours ago) |
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So here is natalensis sclerotia? Or do we call it "pseudosclerotium"? They're always hollow and smell sour or foul inside, it looks like a problem with a new brand of coir I used, mushroom choose to enclose the hostile stuff rather than to fight it. I got similar stuff with P.s subtropicalis, but only once. Nats gave me whole bunch of these sclerotias. Not going to use it, throwing it away. Have you encountered such a behaviour though?
Millet spawn to 100% coir with coir top layer at spawn.
  
By the way, is there any innovative way to casing nats? I did a couple of ms tubs, and they just gave me a ton of snow and couple of fruits. I'm coming back to clones, but anyway - do you guys still case with coir?
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Konbri] 2
#28293141 - 04/24/23 02:49 PM (9 months, 8 hours ago) |
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That's pretty disgusting. And it's obviously not sclerotia. It's interesting though, I don't think I've observed these myself. Nats definitely react strangely to contams, dont they?
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Nat mycelium breaking through the surface in the outdoor greenhouse grow
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: RescueU] 6
#28294115 - 04/25/23 01:51 AM (8 months, 30 days ago) |
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Second/third flush
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
#28294125 - 04/25/23 02:12 AM (8 months, 30 days ago) |
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A.k.a said: Second/third flush

I was just reading this thread and am confused about the difference between Natalensis and the natal super strain variant, from what I gather the super strain is just another type of cube and Natalensis is it’s own thing? I haven’t searched through the 400 pages of this thread to see grows of the super strain but I have one going right now. They look very similar to the b+ I’m also growing, but have fruited drastically different. To be fair the tubs are quite different though lol
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
#28294128 - 04/25/23 02:18 AM (8 months, 30 days ago) |
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Records of my current journey are in a thread under my profile. I’m new to posting here or I’d include a link.
Super strain

B+
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I’d say your NSS is definitely cube.
It’s confusing, there are natalensis and a cubensis from natal going around under both names depending on who you get it from.
It’s pretty easy to tell when you get natalensis, crazy myc is the most common sign. The pins look a little different and usually have a brighter orange cap at first. Then when they mature a lot of times they grow way past veil breaking, have a lighter colored cap and have gills that attach to the stem.
The pictures I’ve been posting over the last year or so are not typical for natalensis because I’ve been breeding for weird looking mushrooms. Usually they’re tall and skinny.
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