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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: nosf3r4tu]
    #26897542 - 08/24/20 05:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

sounds solid in theory but there's way too much nitrogen and other nutrients in there and trich. On the same hand, I use a top layer of coir and verm, which makes up most of most top soils, and have whatever results I have. I cant actually say I know what im doing with these, but one or more of the things that I do for all of my cubensis works as good as I can hope for these. Im waiting on some spawn to colonize, probably be a couple weeks before I have anymore results to post in here. Gotta shake off the rust and am running my gt ol' reliable.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: jbgtaa] * 1
    #26897998 - 08/25/20 01:09 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

This variety... is very tricky obviously. My guess is that it has not been domesticated and that there is a lot of genetic variability.

I have three suggestions for us,

One: If you struggle with a particular culture... start a new one from MS and select several sectors to try in new grows.

Two: A lot of what I see in here is very curly long fruits. I still count myself as a noob (don't pay too much attention to that TC tag). Nonetheless, I'll say that in my experience and from what others have said growth like that is sometimes caused by a substrate that is too rich... (too high a grain to substrate ratio). If you are getting the spagettii fruits, I'd say try the culture with more substrate and less spawn. In cultivation we also see that fruits can be elongated and malformed when the CO2 levels are too high, so I also suggest trying to have more FAE while maintaining good RH.

Three: For everyone's benefit, let us all keep notes on what our cultures look like (on agar and on grain), what spawn ratios we use (part spawn to part substrate), and fruiting conditions.


I feel as though I've been very lucky with my second(?) culture.
This is the culture I had that epic flush with.

I'm on my second tub of it now and I had that problem with letting the substrate surface dry out that killed a lot of pins then the bacterial slime set in. I still kept with it and harvested as posted. The spawn ratio is 4 parts spawn to 6-7 parts substrate (coir verm). I apply a pseudo casing at spawning of about 1/2 an inch of coir verm only on tope of the well mixed and leveled spawn coir mix. Then I let it colonize with the lid on, then shortly after the surface is colonized. Then I take the lid off in and in my Martha that means lots of fresh air (I have a fan turn on periodically in there) and a humidifier keeps it at about 65-85 RH.

After that bacterial harvest, I scraped the whole slimy surface off and rinsed it, then soaked it for a couple of hours, then applied a thin layer of clean course vermiculite. It seems that the majority of the pins came up without bacteria but I still have some problems with caps getting pitted by bacteria. I've got high hopes for later flushes coming in...











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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: PsiloPsychIn]
    #26898127 - 08/25/20 04:55 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yours have been so nice man all straight and tall. And blue.

I just checked the water weight on some fruits and they dried out in the normal range.

7.19 wet dried to .86 and 11.17 dried to 1.22


This is by far the most pins I’ve seen at once :facepalm:


Its the half spawn tub.

Both sides are like this. Time to get out the hc.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
    #26898311 - 08/25/20 08:17 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

man ak idek what to tell you about that. How often are you watering it? I'd start from spore. If you need some you know where I'm at, I can send you some spores from a recent harvest that I posted in here a bit back if you need them. My tubs have never done anything like THAT


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26898701 - 08/25/20 12:36 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

lol thanks man. I managed to print a few from one of the tubs a couple weeks ago but maybe new genes would help. I just read through half the thread again and it seems like grim is the only one with super bad overlay for the most part, and I did get a print from his.

Speaking of, grim do you know what your rh is in the growroom? We’ve both got bad overlay and it’s probably something to do with working the same prints but I’ve also got very low rh and was wondering if you do also. Maybe the myc doesn’t like super dry air coming in.

Likemyc you’ve got some pretty weird stuff going on also, you know what the rh is in your room?


This corner of pins started off looking promising but definitely not living up to the potential so far.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
    #26899006 - 08/25/20 03:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

My room RH is generally in the high 30s but it goes all over the place. Two slow cookers and two AA 25x's running in there off and on.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26899646 - 08/25/20 11:01 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'm around 50


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26899686 - 08/25/20 11:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I hear talk of prints... I haven’t printed much because of the bacterial rot I’ve been getting. If my next tub with this culture is rot free I’ll print a mess of them...


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: PsiloPsychIn]
    #26899714 - 08/26/20 12:17 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The flushes are starting to look a liiiitle less bacterial. The last cluster is almost clean...



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: PsiloPsychIn]
    #26899718 - 08/26/20 12:20 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Subbed, i have a syringe made up and some agar plates on their way


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: psilocyclops]
    #26899925 - 08/26/20 05:26 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

That’s weird they seem to be getting smaller on the late flushes for you.

I’ve got a couple prints if anybody wants them. Im USA I’ve had problems with international before though.

Just pulled most of these little guys. Totally different than the other ones I’ve had, a few of these are totally solid stems.



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
    #26900590 - 08/26/20 01:36 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

You guys think using some kind of casing like this one for PE would help with these Natalensis?
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26528392#26528392


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: goatchild]
    #26901033 - 08/26/20 05:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Somewhere in here has tried


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26903514 - 08/28/20 05:53 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

So now my two month old shoebox is pinning all over even after it broke.


Moved the clone with the side pins to a half assed hc the other day.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
    #26903527 - 08/28/20 06:08 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

What do you mean after it broke? You broke the sub or... ?
Maybe the react to shock like shiitake does.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: nosf3r4tu]
    #26903537 - 08/28/20 06:15 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah when I flipped it I broke it in half. Actually three pieces there’s a sliver a few square inches and about as thick as cardboard with some almost mature ones on it.

It could be from stress. I’m thinking it’s really efficient with nutrients though. My shoebox with half a quart of spawn has by far the most pins and much earlier than the rest, plus no overlay.

With the amount of energy wasted making tons of myc and then for them to start producing endless flushes months later is so weird. I just feel like if it were cubes it would burn out just from creating all the overlay and a small flush.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
    #26904588 - 08/28/20 04:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Thought this was going to be a toss but finally have some pins on the mono. Spawned on 8/6, coir TL on 8/17.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26905434 - 08/29/20 03:58 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

That looks like a decent surface grim. Maybe a super thick late top layer works.


Apparently flipping the sub stopped more pins from forming.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
    #26905662 - 08/29/20 08:27 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

They're popping up all over now, could be my best one in a minute.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26905695 - 08/29/20 09:00 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Anyone tried spawning to straw?


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