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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: col_sandwich]
    #27994598 - 10/12/22 12:48 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77] * 3
    #27994714 - 10/12/22 06:02 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)



this is that plate fruit from 4 days ago, transferred to GWA.
I think he likes it


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: col_sandwich]
    #27994748 - 10/12/22 06:53 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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I've read through this thread and I'll be happily testing out your theory that noobs should start with nats. :smile: I just received my MSS from a Trusted Vendor, and I've got agar plates waiting for work. By this time tomorrow, it should be begun.

Hopefully in several weeks I'll have some progress to update. Excited to be out here on the frontiers of this variety with you all!




Good luck with your project. I think nats have been one of the easiest I have worked with so far.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Egon_Spengler]
    #27994756 - 10/12/22 06:58 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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this is that plate fruit from 4 days ago, transferred to GWA.
I think he likes it




I'm not sure those PET containers are advisable, did they come sterile?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #27994758 - 10/12/22 07:01 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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this is that plate fruit from 4 days ago, transferred to GWA.
I think he likes it




I'm not sure those PET containers are advisable, did they come sterile?




PET condiment cups come sterile in the package


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Rotnpins]
    #27994759 - 10/12/22 07:03 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Ok single use I assume?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #27994762 - 10/12/22 07:05 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Yup


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #27994837 - 10/12/22 08:05 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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I'm not sure those PET containers are advisable, did they come sterile?




PET condiment cups come sterile in the package



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Ok single use I assume?




Yeah, theyโ€™re not ideal, but they work okay.

Sterile in the package; I maybe have an issue with 1 or 2 out of a bag of 50 when pouring. But a 2-4% contam rate could easily be attributed to my SAB technique as well.  Not perfect, but not bad.

Definitely single use. And the shape isnโ€™t great for stacking/storage: theyโ€™re both smaller in diameter than Iโ€™d like, and too tall.

I definitely will never go out of my way to recommend them to anyone who isnโ€™t working within a very tight budget. but overall, for my purposes, theyโ€™re not bad since i can get a bag of 50 for less than 3 dollars at the grocery store.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Egon_Spengler]
    #27994871 - 10/12/22 08:42 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Rotnpins said:
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I'm not sure those PET containers are advisable, did they come sterile?




PET condiment cups come sterile in the package



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DERRAYLD said:
Ok single use I assume?




Yeah, theyโ€™re not ideal, but they work okay.

Sterile in the package; I maybe have an issue with 1 or 2 out of a bag of 50 when pouring. But a 2-4% contam rate could easily be attributed to my SAB technique as well.  Not perfect, but not bad.

Definitely single use. And the shape isnโ€™t great for stacking/storage: theyโ€™re both smaller in diameter than Iโ€™d like, and too tall.

I definitely will never go out of my way to recommend them to anyone who isnโ€™t working within a very tight budget. but overall, for my purposes, theyโ€™re not bad since i can get a bag of 50 for less than 3 dollars at the grocery store.




They're the first cups I ever poured in. They definitely work but, you're right, the size/height can be a little annoying.. can't beat em for the price and convenience of being able to grab them at the grocery store instead of waiting on shipping. I like petris better, but I'd probably choose those before going back to no pours :shrug:


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Rotnpins] * 2
    #27994903 - 10/12/22 09:10 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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They're the first cups I ever poured in. They definitely work but, you're right, the size/height can be a little annoying.. can't beat em for the price and convenience of being able to grab them at the grocery store instead of waiting on shipping. I like petris better, but I'd probably choose those before going back to no pours :shrug:




Oh dude, same. On the day I can spring for a box of 500 petris up front, I will. But Iโ€™ll never go back to no-pours. I tried a couple different containers, but all had issues. Again, Iโ€™m not recommending condiment cups to anyone, but the lids snap on and off with one hand (important in the SAB), no twisting or two-handed manipulation. And the visibility is better than any no-pour I tried.  Iโ€™d encourage anyone to try lots of stuff, see what works best for them. While not perfect, these just meet my needs for now.

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Anyway, back to your regularly scheduled Natalensis content:

Hereโ€™s a jar of WBS I hope might be ready to spawn this weekend.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Rotnpins]
    #27994904 - 10/12/22 09:11 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

I ran some of the condiment cups a while ago just to see, and they work surprisingly well. Iโ€™ve made prob 100 with no contam. I use them only for germinating spores or for the final transfer before dicing the puck up and dropping into a jar. Unfortunately theyโ€™re way too small for working cultures.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
    #27995307 - 10/12/22 01:52 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Is there literature or academic sources describing or discussing the cost to fruiting potential that excessive mycelial growth, overlay, blobbing etc, costs us? Realize its a extremely hard question.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
    #27995312 - 10/12/22 01:54 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

I recently ran out of my petris, only left with a bunch of 15cm-ers and PP condiment cups, which I shoved to the cellar a year ago maybe. Haha, pp...
  Made some no-pour and the whole party is fine and dandy, with semps, nats and mex germinating. I must agree on the diameter issue though, it feels like it's not enough to develop some decent sectoring. And all in all, I enjoy pouring more, it's more emotionally rewarding, bond creating, idk. For quick cloning or lc, spore germination - no pour is good, as it's quick, accessible and brings stable result.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #27995445 - 10/12/22 02:57 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Is there literature or academic sources describing or discussing the cost to fruiting potential that excessive mycelial growth, overlay, blobbing etc, costs us? Realize its a extremely hard question.




I doubt there is anything. But for sure it takes a ton of energy to do that. Even on Agar I find that Nats get exhausted quicker than other mycelia, and then take longer to recover after a transfer because they waste away all their precious energy.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Hillbillyjohn]
    #27996596 - 10/13/22 09:30 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Would y'all say that a 4.5# bag of Nat spawn is good for a 66qt tub with 800g of coir? From what I gather using too much Nat spawn leads to excess overlay, yeah?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Spicolis_Dad] * 5
    #27996615 - 10/13/22 09:49 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Ps. Natalensis shoeboxes moving right along.  Left is a day or two ahead of right.

   




Wow (some of) this Natalensis myc moves quick!  24 hrs difference.

   




You may remember that all 3 of these shoe-boxes got tossed into the compost heap after contaminating with some ugly grey stuff.  In the meantime, look who showed up in the compost heap.




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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Spicolis_Dad] * 4
    #27998603 - 10/14/22 12:37 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Natty MS that just loves pinning on agar. This is 44 days from inoculation of plate:



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Hillbillyjohn] * 4
    #27998785 - 10/14/22 02:31 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)



Going to clone the fat one.. it's in a cluster with the 4 skinny ones behind it and a couple small ones


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Rotnpins]
    #27998798 - 10/14/22 02:35 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Going to clone the fat one.. it's in a cluster with the 4 skinny ones behind it and a couple small ones



Skanky bitches with their skirts round their stipes! Tut tut


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: SwabMarley]
    #27998802 - 10/14/22 02:37 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

hi guys
nats are next on my list and i have some nooby questions

1- whats the consensus- top layer or naked grains?
2- is all the myc active or just the overlay?
3- should i go with whore shplurks or is somebody sending around prints? i can trade chitwans

thanks in advance! mush love


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