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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: SilvJailbiddi] * 2
    #27973893 - 09/29/22 12:21 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Nat "green snake" clone from a Trich tub. You can see they dont look like green snakes at all.



Also, idk why my Nat grows attract Trich so much.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: SilvJailbiddi] * 1
    #27973895 - 09/29/22 12:25 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Hey! you can check my log
I guess what delayed mine was the 1:5 ratio and the heavy water... but it kinda payed back in dry matter :cool:

:mushroom2:shoebox2 5L NATALENSIS - 6.5cm tall Sub
14/08 - S2B - 0,6L spawn (bottom jar had uncolonized tiny area) + 3L CV - ratio 1:5
mixed spawn + pseudo casing well pressed way above field capacity; gentle mist before lid

14/08 - S2B
09/09 - Pin
14/09 - Harvest 32g dry/dunk 12h
27/09 - Pin


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Re: Show me your P-Nats [Re: Gleyck] * 3
    #27973951 - 09/29/22 01:19 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)




The overlay on this species is insane.


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Re: Psilocybe Natalensis [Re: CorteX_] * 2
    #27973979 - 09/29/22 01:35 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Let's play King Oyster or Natalensis?





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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Adas] * 4
    #27974012 - 09/29/22 01:53 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Now, if anyone remembers my recent "well behaved myc" post, this is them now. Feel old yet?
If that was only one tub or single party of jars, I would suppose I just had mislabeled some culture or something. But those were made from clones (g2), which I took from later flushes of cloned nats, that's for sure.

My only guess is that somehow those nats hybridized with cubes that grow in the same room (i've had strains cross-breeding and giving weird mixed pheno later flushes, I suppose it's common), given they're pretty closely related. Could that be the reason?
I mean, what are the odds?
That thing buggers my mind, how could cubes have grown from nat clones. Well, I'll just throw away all three clones, I was going to start from fresh spores anyway. Yet I'll be glad to see the key to this puzzle.

Clone 1

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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Konbri]
    #27974047 - 09/29/22 02:20 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Now this is something that isn't done anymore, but when I first started learning to grow, I read about folks using bubble-wrap for surface conditions. You think that might help with the Natness of things? I'm going to grain with some now, I may try just to see.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: cozmyc] * 10
    #27974181 - 09/29/22 03:55 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

My experience last night taking 44g fresh (3g, if they had been dried) came in two phases.

The first phase came on subtly. I laid down in the dark by myself on a cot in my lab. I found myself interacting with a continuously changing and ephemeral dreamscape and presence. The more I asserted my will in the dream the more the dream evaded me, so I learned to let go and let it be, and I fell asleep I guess. I don't remember the falling asleep and waking up transitions.

The second phase started when I needed to use the bathroom. It was a great pleasure simply seeing things differently and indistinctly (and not seeing things but imagining where they were in the dark) and negotiating my body through physical reality in darkness and dim light--I did not turn on any lights. I did not want them on at all. I felt like bright lights would undo the spell. I enjoyed walking to the bathroom, and to the kitchen to get a drink of water. All the while, I spoke my stream-of-consciousness thoughts out loud to myself, making easy, fast-flowing and fun associations and rhymes, and giggling at myself. I was hyper-verbal. I was my own goofy narrator. I felt both thoroughly and superficially euphoric, brimming with intelligence. It was blissful without any real emotional depth, and with no darkness. (The first phase was moodier, but not dark.) I enjoyed the entire trip for what it was. It didn't need to be different or more. It lasted 12:25am to about 5:00am. I woke up again at 8:25am kind of feeling it still, but also it was done, and I started my day.

I've had a leftover feeling all day today that I don't know yet how to understand, except that I appreciate how interesting this has been. The whole experience was fascinating and enjoyable.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Not Quite Social] * 1
    #27974344 - 09/29/22 05:57 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Sounds like you had a good time not quite social. Thanks for the report. Which phenos are you getting and using? I'm interested to see if phenos have different effects. I know it's set, setting, and other variables but I'm sure there is something to each pheno. Just like people say a cube is a cube but I can tell you there is a difference with various varieties I have. I can tell which one I'm tripping on by the effects I get even if I'm not the one grabbing the dose from my stashes. I don't even need to see them and I can tell which ones they are. I know I will get backlash for that comment, oh well, is true.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Hillbillyjohn]
    #27974374 - 09/29/22 06:19 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

I totally had a "brain fart" moment earlier, and I was soo disappointed for about 3 seconds when I realized that my first nat pins had already lost their veils :laugh2:

Me: "Really?! What is this shit?! I find a species that I want to take for a test run with a decent dose, and they go and pull some lame crap like this? ...oh, wait.." :lmafo:

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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD] * 2
    #27974393 - 09/29/22 06:47 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Mini harvest. Pulled the more mature ones and left the rest to mature.

My other run with nats looked similar for the 1st flush and the 2nd was much more full






Pretty interesting,  I generally get everything from my first flush and a few stragglers after.




Just saw this.. that is interesting. I suspect it has to do with water content

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Some decent 2nd flushes coming in




If your gills don't look like this, they're probably cubes.
...There, I said it :smilingpuppy:


Crazy how different the pheno for this tomentose growth is. The yield also seems better so far:



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Not Quite Social] * 1
    #27974399 - 09/29/22 06:54 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Hey Bigworm, you know what? I've kinda never actually tried cubes. (One time I tried to make a tea from a few wild cubes, but I was scared to use too much and I used so little that nothing happened.)  So, I have no experience to compare them to. Seems reasonable to me there would be differences in potency just as there are differences in appearance. This was my first time successfully growing active mushrooms. I started from a spore print that Mycelium Juice sent me. I believe he said he got them from Guerrilla. A couple of mine appeared similar to the green-eyed snakes that MJ grew. ~NQS


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Not Quite Social]
    #27974520 - 09/29/22 08:06 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Yeah the green snakes seemed to work better than the cube looking ones for me. I still have the robbin's eggs ones too try. I'm going to give the cube looking ones another go, maybe I ate something that slowed my absorption of them or something I didn't think of. I kept the 3 phenos I got separated so I could try them individually and then mix them to see if I get different results. I also cloned each one as well as a plate pin, so I can grow out my favorite one. I like mixing melmac with these but pure nats have a special place for me by themselves.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Konbri] * 2
    #27974828 - 09/30/22 01:04 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Now, if anyone remembers my recent "well behaved myc" post, this is them now. Feel old yet?
If that was only one tub or single party of jars, I would suppose I just had mislabeled some culture or something. But those were made from clones (g2), which I took from later flushes of cloned nats, that's for sure.

My only guess is that somehow those nats hybridized with cubes that grow in the same room (i've had strains cross-breeding and giving weird mixed pheno later flushes, I suppose it's common), given they're pretty closely related. Could that be the reason?
I mean, what are the odds?
That thing buggers my mind, how could cubes have grown from nat clones. Well, I'll just throw away all three clones, I was going to start from fresh spores anyway. Yet I'll be glad to see the key to this puzzle.

Clone 1

Clone 2







More evidence for the shapeshifting alien mushroom theory... :notsureif:


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: hummingbird]
    #27974829 - 09/30/22 01:06 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

i guess its safe to say that these are in fact cubensis?
how do the gills look? adjacent?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: TheDoobsker]
    #27974851 - 09/30/22 01:51 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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If your gills don't look like this, they're probably cubes.
...There, I said it :smilingpuppy:




This wasn't directed @ you, Konbri, just to be clear. Just bad timing I guess

Idk what's going on there, but it definitely sounds peculiar. Those look like cubes IMO Nats looks very different. There's no chance of mixing up cultures?

Seems strange to me if it is just air-born spores, but idfk :shrug: I think we're just starting to scratch the surface of understand this kingdom, so anything is possible


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77] * 1
    #27974895 - 09/30/22 03:17 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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i guess its safe to say that these are in fact cubensis?
how do the gills look? adjacent?




They're cubes, or else I'm the Spiderman. But the spawn was inoculated with nat clones. At least they looked like later nats, and were growing in nats monos, lol.
I'm not new to cloning, and besides that, I didn't have cubes which looked anything like what grows in these tubs.

Anyway, I suppose I'm not solving this, I'll just let it go and concentrate on my subtropicalis agar work.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Konbri] * 1
    #27974994 - 09/30/22 06:25 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Idk man the myc and some of the pins look natal. We’ve definitely seen some phenos that are close to cube so who knows. Yours are particularly cubey but that mycelium is not.


Derrayled Nats are the only time I ever transfer tomentose growth. Idk why but I’ve had much better tubs as far as overlay with tomentose culture.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
    #27975001 - 09/30/22 06:31 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Ive seen the army helmet cap pheno in my nats, and ive also seen nats behave overlay-wise, but I cant really comment on the ID visually directly as ive yet to fully understand the veil thing separating cubes and nats


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: smalltalk_canceled] * 3
    #27975069 - 09/30/22 07:59 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Idk man the myc and some of the pins look natal. We’ve definitely seen some phenos that are close to cube so who knows. Yours are particularly cubey but that mycelium is not.


Derrayled Nats are the only time I ever transfer tomentose growth. Idk why but I’ve had much better tubs as far as overlay with tomentose culture.




Interesting, my best cultures are all rhizo.

4th flush fruit from a triched out tub i put outside.
Double the thickness of my thumb :lol:



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD] * 5
    #27975080 - 09/30/22 08:10 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

overlay? i dont know what you are talking about :wink:
but for real, this tub is the least savage myc i have seen so far
coir/hpoo/straw, quite bacterial rhizo spawn
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